I've been really enjoying the new monsters that have appeared in the Pathfinder adventure paths. Not only are they new, but the originality, art, and overall quality surpasses much of what I've found in some of the standard D20 monster books. Are any plans to do a compilation book sometime. If not, will some (or many) or them be worked into the main Pathfinder RPG monster book?
I've been really enjoying the new monsters that have appeared in the Pathfinder adventure paths. Not only are they new, but the originality, art, and overall quality surpasses much of what I've find in some of the standard D20 monster books. Are any plans to do a compilation book sometime. If not, will some (or many) or them be worked into the Pathfinder monster book?
Funny! We were just talking about monster books today! There will be monster books, but what form they will take and when is still up in the air. Turns out we all love bestiaries, though, so expect details as we have them!
I haven't run a Pathfinder campaign yet, but I did buy "Spires of Xin-Shalast" just for the monsters. I had the PCs going to Leng already, so the Denizens were perfect.
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I know it has been asked before, but does any one know where I can find a list of the monsters in the Pathfinder modules?
this link has all of them at least to pathfinder 10
edit and it has them by name and level... it includes but adventure path and module monsters
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That is fantastic. I love monster books!
I do like the Classic Monsters Revisited. I think there should be a whole series of those. Classic Undead Revisited, Classic Giants Revisited, Classic Dragons Revisited, etc...
Dragons Revisited is coming in early 09.
I think Undead Revisited and Giants Revisited would make good follow-ups.
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maybe a Constructs Revisited, those guys need some love
and a classic Horror Monster Book!
i think i'd buy "return of the son of stereo instructions revisited" if paizo released it. they would be the best written stereo instructions known to man...
ok, a bit of hyperbole perhaps, but, yeah, i would LOVE to see a whole series of the "monsters revisited" books
maybe a Constructs Revisited, those guys need some love
and a classic Horror Monster Book!
Gothic Horror Revisited does sound PERDY cool...
But then again, so does just, Undead Revisited.
I like a lot of the Revisted ideas, but I do hope they remain focused on style (AKA Fluff)like CMR. Monster Manual type books while needing some of that should still be about crunch. And as such I hope to see....
Pathfinder Monster Manual
ToH: Pathfinder
Dragonnomicon Manual with oders of Dragons
Cromatic-Evil
Metalic-Good
Psionci-Neutral
If I'm not mistaken a late issue of Dragon had Heavy Metalics that filled the Lawful order. And there have scattered attempts to do Arcane Dragons which would be nice as a order of Dragons, perhaps Chotic.
In any case in all these books while I don't think we need to see Orcs with 10 levels of Wizard as many of the later Monster Manual books attempted. But I would like to see racial levels, so people who want to play a Lizard Folk or Centaur can do so, and so we can have low level versions of mean nasties like a Beholder type to fight 1st level characters.
I know a lot of the above is not open, they were ment as examples.
TTFN Dre.
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Well there is Classic Monsters and now the new Dragon book coming. Keep doing books like those and we'll all be happy. :)Given what's happened in some of the modules, I predict a Fey book would be at least 45% pure nightmare fuel.
I really do hope the fluff-heavy monster books keep a-coming.
I would love a "Fey Revisited" book! enough nightmare fuel and downright awesomeness for the faerie folk to put my players in their place and make no more gay jokes. The bloodsworn Vale module (I think it was that one...with the faerie king...) was a good start, but we need more!
Deadline Monsters Revisited
'nuff said
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I would love a "Fey Revisited" book! enough nightmare fuel and downright awesomeness for the faerie folk to put my players in their place and make no more gay jokes. The bloodsworn Vale module (I think it was that one...with the faerie king...) was a good start, but we need more!Well there is Classic Monsters and now the new Dragon book coming. Keep doing books like those and we'll all be happy. :)Given what's happened in some of the modules, I predict a Fey book would be at least 45% pure nightmare fuel.
I really do hope the fluff-heavy monster books keep a-coming.
Yeah a Fey Revisited would be really nice. Something I throw at players with a new twist. Honestly most fey suck, or have that "cute little faerie" look about them. Course the cute little faerie with dagger sharp teeth about to devour the Half-Orc whole is an interesting idea.
Another vote for Fey!
Agreed, I love the fey. How does the fairy realm fit in with Golarion's cosmology, anyway? Will we be learning about it in The Great Beyond?
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I would love a Paizo/Pathfinder version of Tome of Horrors. I would also love a Pathfinder version of the MM. Most of all I would love a Pathfinder big fat 100% trove of new monsters bestiary.
I’m a little conflicted on how I feel about the current Pathfinder monsters being compiled into a single source book. On the one hand I love the new monsters, but I already own every issue of the PF AP's and Modules. But on the other hand having them compiled into a single book would be very convenient. Perhaps if a master list was made in a future publication would be a good compromise.
Oh man, have you checked out Carnival of Tears yet?It gets worse.
Worse? Or better?
If your gonna do Fey revisted then may I make the suggestion of looking to Hellboy II for tooth ferie insperaction.
I'd like to see them stats.
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The bloodsworn Vale module (I think it was that one...with the faerie king...) was a good start, but we need more!Oh man, have you checked out Carnival of Tears yet?
It gets worse.
I read through it briefly when it came out, but my players aren't the right level, so not as throughly as i should have. I don't remember any fey in it though...i'l take your word for it until such a time as i can read it again (another month).
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If your gonna do Fey revisted then may I make the suggestion of looking to Hellboy II for tooth ferie insperaction.
I'd like to see them stats.
That whole scene I was thinking "It's a swarm, don't use guns! Area of effect attacks! Area of effect attacks!"
I'd love to see them done up for Pathfinder myself.
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Just one minor comment about "Classic Monsters". Generally I really liked the product, but one thought I had might kick it up a notch. Keep everything the same but add three to five more pages. A 'small encounter' map for the monster/race, a key, and ideas how to use it/hooks/etc. Of course it would make the book larger than the apparently 'standard' 64 pages, but it would set Paizo's monster books even further apart from the norm.
You can't just add 4-5 pages to a book. The publishing industry is built on 32-page "signatures" that can be sometimes broken in half or in quarters (although there are cost issues to dissuade that).
And knowing is half the battle. ;)
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Sorry, I didn't mean 4-5 pages total, I meant 4-5 pages (or 3-5) per monster, depending on number of monsters and reaching the next cutoff point of 96 or 128.
Just one minor comment about "Classic Monsters". Generally I really liked the product, but one thought I had might kick it up a notch. Keep everything the same but add three to five more pages. A 'small encounter' map for the monster/race, a key, and ideas how to use it/hooks/etc. Of course it would make the book larger than the apparently 'standard' 64 pages, but it would set Paizo's monster books even further apart from the norm.You can't just add 4-5 pages to a book. The publishing industry is built on 32-page "signatures" that can be sometimes broken in half or in quarters (although there are cost issues to dissuade that).
And knowing is half the battle. ;)
That would of course be right nice and cool, but would anyone be willing to pay $25-30 every month for the extra content?
There are so many monster books out there do we really need so many more. I have the 3.0 MM, Monsternomicon 1 and the 3.0 Ravenloft monster book and feel I have every monster I could possibly need. Keep the modules coming(and put the monster stats you need in those).
Cheers
Mark
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There are so many monster books out there do we really need so many more. I have the 3.0 MM, Monsternomicon 1 and the 3.0 Ravenloft monster book and feel I have every monster I could possibly need. Keep the modules coming(and put the monster stats you need in those).
YES!!! I have all five monster manuals, all three tomes of horror (and the revised edition), as well as all three creature collections, and the penumbra fantasy bestiary, both monsternomicons, and blackdirge's bestiary and there are still many gaps in my monster ecology.b
YES!!! I have all five monster manuals, all three tomes of horror (and the revised edition), as well as all three creature collections, and the penumbra fantasy bestiary, both monsternomicons, and blackdirge's bestiary and there are still many gaps in my monster ecology.b
You forgot the Fiend Folio.
I just want to mention that CMR is an awesome format for monsters and I hope to see this concept continue.
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I love that book. <:-)You forgot the Fiend Folio.if you're refering to the 1e version, i AM trying to forget it! ;)
wow, you're the one! i wanted to pulp it just for the ugliest picture of lolth i'd ever seen!
there were some cool critters in there (githyanki and githzeri, the slaad, the stuff from the g-d-q modules), but some of it was goofy even by early d&d standards (carbuncle? are you serious???) ;)
There are so many monster books out there do we really need so many more. I have the 3.0 MM, Monsternomicon 1 and the 3.0 Ravenloft monster book and feel I have every monster I could possibly need. Keep the modules coming(and put the monster stats you need in those).YES!!! I have all five monster manuals, all three tomes of horror (and the revised edition), as well as all three creature collections, and the penumbra fantasy bestiary, both monsternomicons, and blackdirge's bestiary and there are still many gaps in my monster ecology.b
That is an awful lot of monsters (and money). I just remeber all those Monstrous Manuals (you know, the put-in-a-binder ones) purchased religously and realising I didn't need that many mooks (or dragons for that matter). Ever-so-slight varients of orc, skeleton, giant and dragon were wearing thin.
Monster books, as well as splat books have flooded the 3ed market when what I wanted were well made scenarios.
Cheers
Mark
I would love a Paizo/Pathfinder version of Tome of Horrors. I would also love a Pathfinder version of the MM. Most of all I would love a Pathfinder big fat 100% trove of new monsters bestiary.
I'm pretty sure we can expect to see a Pathfinder version of Tome of Horrors but it won't likely come out until next year when the final release of the PFRPG comes out. I doubt we'll see a Pathfinder version of the MM as the "Revisited" series will redo those creatures. However, I could see a monster book with some classic OGL creatures and some new ones. After all, not every OGL monster can make it into a "Revisited" book. (That would be way too many books, IMO.)
I’m a little conflicted on how I feel about the current Pathfinder monsters being compiled into a single source book. On the one hand I love the new monsters, but I already own every issue of the PF AP's and Modules. But on the other hand having them compiled into a single book would be very convenient. Perhaps if a master list was made in a future publication would be a good compromise.
I'm not conflicted about the idea at all. The gurus at Paizo have likely thought of it already, and there seems to be a demand for a compiled Pathfinder AP monster book. It becomes a question of when (or if) they decide to do it. It would be very convenient to have the monsters compiled into one source.
They could also do a format similar to the map folios where each monster is on its own glossy page, which could be stored in a stylized Pathfinder binder (sold separately). You'd add each "Monster Folio" to the binder.
Of course, you wouldn't have to buy the binder (a regular one would work just as well) but it would come with an extra cool features such as combat tables, and blank index cards for monsters, traps, magical items, and the like as well as a Pathfinder GM's Screen.
Just a thought,
KF72
I'm not sure if this post belongs here, but I don't know where else to put it, as the PfRPG doesn't seem to talk about monsters.
Anyhow, one thing I've always wanted to change about the monsters in 3.x was the necessity for high-HD monsters to have a full set of feats as well as numerous special abilities. I always felt that it would be sensible to trade off some of those (PC-oriented) feats for the (monster-oriented) special abilities, and thus trim the stat block down a little.
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I'm not sure if this post belongs here, but I don't know where else to put it, as the PfRPG doesn't seem to talk about monsters.
Anyhow, one thing I've always wanted to change about the monsters in 3.x was the necessity for high-HD monsters to have a full set of feats as well as numerous special abilities. I always felt that it would be sensible to trade off some of those (PC-oriented) feats for the (monster-oriented) special abilities, and thus trim the stat block down a little.
Hmmm, great minds think alike. I believe Sean mentioned this idea just this past week. :)
-Lisa
if you're refering to the 1e version, i AM trying to forget it! ;)
No, i am actually refering to the 3.0 Fiend Folio.
I'm not sure if this post belongs here, but I don't know where else to put it, as the PfRPG doesn't seem to talk about monsters.
Anyhow, one thing I've always wanted to change about the monsters in 3.x was the necessity for high-HD monsters to have a full set of feats as well as numerous special abilities. I always felt that it would be sensible to trade off some of those (PC-oriented) feats for the (monster-oriented) special abilities, and thus trim the stat block down a little.
Hmmm, great minds think alike. I believe Sean mentioned this idea just this past week. :)
-Lisa
I don't mind this idea at all as long as you can do it either way. Adding new options are good as long as they don't take away from the standard options.
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I'm not sure if this post belongs here, but I don't know where else to put it, as the PfRPG doesn't seem to talk about monsters.
Anyhow, one thing I've always wanted to change about the monsters in 3.x was the necessity for high-HD monsters to have a full set of feats as well as numerous special abilities. I always felt that it would be sensible to trade off some of those (PC-oriented) feats for the (monster-oriented) special abilities, and thus trim the stat block down a little.
Hmmm, great minds think alike. I believe Sean mentioned this idea just this past week. :)
-Lisa
Simple; just make 'Improved SR', 'Greater Energy Resistance', Gaze Focus', etc into feats, with static bonuses, roll the effects into the stats.
The creature gets stronger, with no need for a paragraph of explanatory text.This may already have been done for a lot of cases.
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I would love to own a Pathfinder Tome Monsternomica with select monsters from their modules and adventure paths, with a good mix 40 to 60% new monsters. One of my favorite creatures the Paizo crew whipped up, I got for free. I just love the tatzlwyrm from Hollow's Last Hope. I just really like the feel of this creature. Thanks, Paizo!!
