Adding armor check penalty to cmb

[lastknightleft]

So I've been thinking about this a lot since the cmb rules as they stand make it a little to risky to want to try it. the problem is that the full armor bonuses are rather high and shield add to it even though they should detract from it, So I was wondering if anyone had some ideas along this line?

[eggellis]

lastknightleft wrote:

So I've been thinking about this a lot since the cmb rules as they stand make it a little to risky to want to try it. the problem is that the full armor bonuses are rather high and shield add to it even though they should detract from it, So I was wondering if anyone had some ideas along this line?

I had thought about posting this same thing yesterday. But those darn maneuvers are already so hard to do.

[lastknightleft]

eggellis wrote:

lastknightleft wrote:

So I've been thinking about this a lot since the cmb rules as they stand make it a little to risky to want to try it. the problem is that the full armor bonuses are rather high and shield add to it even though they should detract from it, So I was wondering if anyone had some ideas along this line?

I had thought about posting this same thing yesterday. But those darn maneuvers are already so hard to do.

Um you realize I'm talking about adding armour check penalties only to the dc of the check right, not to the attacker, guess I should have made that clear.