Crossbow girl?


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Liberty's Edge

KaeYoss wrote:

Paladins with ranged weapons are cool. If only Golarion had a bit more tech, you could have paladins in denim wearing two heavy revolvers, hunting men in black.

All Hail Gilead!

Gunslinging Morrowan paladins in the Iron Kingdoms are pretty awesome...

Liberty's Edge

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So not D&D to me though.


Timespike wrote:


What really intrigues me is the paladins of Sarenrae, Shelyn and Irori, (especially Shelyn and Irori) because they're likely not terribly stereotypical paladins. And I like that.

Sune, God of Love and Beauty in the Forgotten Realms, had paladins (despite her CG alignment).

They were depicted as leather-wearing swashbuckly types, who protected That Which Is Beautiful, or corrupted love (Succubi, demons, hags, etc etc).

Always had the idea of a kobold paladin of Bahumet. A rogue/pal, a holy sniper that used subdual arrows to put down guards, then sneak in to get the bad guy without hurting anyone else.


Also, I think I heard "Sword and Board" in like, 1998. I've seen the term pop up in Dragon, for that matter.

It's not a WoW thing.

Liberty's Edge

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Hmm and now the blog has another crossbow wielding person. :)


SirUrza wrote:
So not D&D to me though.

Thats why they'll use crossbows for the time being.

Liberty's Edge

I first started hearing Sword and Board in a LARP I go to.

BTW, though I've never played one, Paladin Monk is a cool concept, would love to see Irori's paladins.


On the topic of hot chicks with crossbows:

http://paizo.com/image/product/magazine_issue/dungeon/80/cover_500.jpg


Rechan wrote:

On the topic of hot chicks with crossbows:

LINKIFIED!

Liberty's Edge

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Eh.. she doesn't do anything for me. Seems a little mousy...

Dark Archive Contributor

Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.

Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much!

*gets in a huff*

Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them.

Yay! :D


Mike McArtor wrote:
Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.

Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much!

*gets in a huff*

Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them.

Yay! :D

It takes a Scoundrel to know a Scoundrel!

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

Mike McArtor wrote:
Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.

Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much!

*gets in a huff*

Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them.

Yay! :D

You should tell James to read more of what you and Wes write.

James Jacobs wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
Crossbow bayonets? Hmm I don't remember those.
The drow on the cover of Pathfinder #13 kinda has a crossbow bayonet.
Yes I know, I just don't remember stats for them in the Complete books. I'll have to look next time.

Ah! I'm sure they exist somewhere... but to be honest, I don't remember seeing crossbow bayonets anywhere statted up as an actual weapon. If you find one... let me know!

;)

Liberty's Edge

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Mike McArtor wrote:
Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.
Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much! *gets in a huff* Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them. Yay! :D

Lol.. as was said, you should really let James know you and Wes wrote some rules... I hear he's looking for some. ;)

Dark Archive Contributor

Daigle wrote:


;)

I died a little inside when I saw James's quote. Not that I've read all of HIS books, mind you, so I guess we're even. ;)

Liberty's Edge

Mike McArtor wrote:
Daigle wrote:


;)
I died a little inside when I saw James's quote. Not that I've read all of HIS books, mind you, so I guess we're even. ;)

Never mind, MIke, for what its worth I loved Complete Scoundrel (it was also the first time I convinced my dearly beloved that she wanted to buy me a D&D book for my birthday!). I haven't got to try out the Luck feats and skill tricks as much as I'd like, but one of my players is currently having fun saying "I reroll that" anytime a die comes up with a result he hates! The grey guard saw immediate use as a paladin/watch officer based on Boyd from Waking the Dead.

Any chance of letting on who wrote what bits? Or was it all collaborative?

U

Scarab Sages

I'm a big fan of the "I reroll that" since I played a Rogue/Fortune's Friend with luck rerolls coming out of his ears in a 3rd ed adaption of Tomb of Horrors, since, y'know, if there's ever a place you want to make all your search and disable device checks :P that was an amusing game...

but yeah, Complete Scoundrel is one of the best Complete splatbooks.

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Ukos wrote:
Never mind, MIke, for what its worth I loved Complete Scoundrel (it was also the first time I convinced my dearly beloved that she wanted to buy me a D&D book for my birthday!). I haven't got to try out the Luck feats and skill tricks as much as I'd like, but one of my players is currently having fun saying "I reroll that" anytime a die comes up with a result he hates! The grey guard saw immediate use as a paladin/watch officer based on Boyd from Waking the Dead.

Excellent! :D

Ukos wrote:
Any chance of letting on who wrote what bits? Or was it all collaborative?

Wes did almost all the dark, creepy, and sneaky stuff (gray guard, master of masks, malconvoker, and so on). Wes did all the spells (I'm no good at creating new spells), the poisons, and almost all the flavor stuff. I did the luck feats and most of the rest of the feats, all the stuff relating to monks and ninja and anything with an Asian feel, and most of the prestige classes. I also did most of the mundane gear. We split on the magic items. I created and re-created the skill tricks, based on an idea by Chris Perkins, but in the end all that got scrapped in development and Andy Collins built the new system (which is awesome) from my second attempt at creating skill tricks.

Illessa wrote:
I'm a big fan of the "I reroll that" since I played a Rogue/Fortune's Friend with luck rerolls coming out of his ears in a 3rd ed adaption of Tomb of Horrors, since, y'know, if there's ever a place you want to make all your search and disable device checks :P that was an amusing game...

That is a perfect time to be a lucky character. :D

Ukos wrote:
but yeah, Complete Scoundrel is one of the best Complete splatbooks.

Thanks! That means a lot to Wes and me. :)


Mike can write something good? ~thinks~ Amazing! ~GRINS~

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Hey now, Mike writes good stuff all the time. I just can't give you an example right now. ;)

The Exchange

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James Jacobs wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
SirUrza wrote:
Crossbow bayonets? Hmm I don't remember those.
The drow on the cover of Pathfinder #13 kinda has a crossbow bayonet.
Yes I know, I just don't remember stats for them in the Complete books. I'll have to look next time.
Ah! I'm sure they exist somewhere... but to be honest, I don't remember seeing crossbow bayonets anywhere statted up as an actual weapon. If you find one... let me know!

According to Chet Erez' Equipment Guide, Bladed Crossbows were in Dragon #349, p22.

The Exchange

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Rechan wrote:

Also, I think I heard "Sword and Board" in like, 1998. I've seen the term pop up in Dragon, for that matter.

It's not a WoW thing.

It's a SCA thing, and dates back to the 70's, I think.

Liberty's Edge

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Yeap, Hitting the Bullseye.

Also has many arrow types for those looking for gadgets. :)

The bladed crossbow in that acts as a dagger. No penalty to attack unlike the Complete Scoundrel kind.

It does have a neat Double Crossbow in it that's nice. Two arrows fired at once at -2 penalty. The Prodd is also interesting, crossbow that fires sling bullets.

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Sharoth wrote:
Mike can write something good?

Lies!

SirUrza wrote:
Hey now, Mike writes good stuff all the time. I just can't give you an example right now. ;)

Me either. ;)

Liberty's Edge

Complete Scoundrel was pretty awesome with the exception of all the "luck" feats and such. They make it tough for DMs to 'secret roll'.

Liberty's Edge

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Depends on what's being secret rolled.

Anyone got any other crossbow stuff? :)


Paizo should hire a bard to record a song called "Crossbow girl"

Crossbow girl
She's been living in her first vault world
I bet she never had a Desna guy
I bet her high priest never told her why

Scarab Sages

And when she's cocking
She's looking so fi-i-ine
And then she's loosing
A bolt through your mi-i-ind

You'd better hit the road
'Cos she's got Rapid Reload!

She's a Crossbow Girl!
I'm a-running now to tithe my pearls
And maybe when she sees my shiny loot
She'll let me lick her shiny, kinky boots?

Woah-o-oh Woah-oh Woa-oh-o-oh Woah-oh-woah!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Oye.

If you like the crossbow girl might want to check out my new wallpaper over in the general forum. ;)

Liberty's Edge

Mike McArtor wrote:
Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.

Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much!

*gets in a huff*

Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them.

Yay! :D

Gack! Sorry I got the book wrong.

I stand by the idea, however. ;)


SirUrza wrote:

Oye.

If you like the crossbow girl might want to check out my new wallpaper over in the general forum. ;)

If you like us to look at it you might want to link to it ;P

Dark Archive Contributor

Timespike wrote:
Mike McArtor wrote:
Timespike wrote:
and add in a bayonet from Complete Adventurer.

Complete SCOUNDREL thank you very much!

*gets in a huff*

Actually, I'm really happy to hear someone using them.

Yay! :D

Gack! Sorry I got the book wrong.

I stand by the idea, however. ;)

No worries. Glad you like the idea. :)

Liberty's Edge

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KaeYoss wrote:
SirUrza wrote:

Oye.

If you like the crossbow girl might want to check out my new wallpaper over in the general forum. ;)

If you like us to look at it you might want to link to it ;P

You mean like this? Seems like you already found it though since you created your own wallpaper... I bet you expect me to link to that too. :)


SirUrza wrote:


You mean like this? Seems like you already found it though since you created your own wallpaper... I bet you expect me to link to that too. :)

Yes, like this.

Yeah, I already found it (since I made my own, and also replied in your post), but the link would have been useful, as it would have saved time I had to waste searching the post - and also winding you up ;-P

(well, actually I enjoyed the winding up part :D)

I actually created a lot of wallpapers, but most of them are just pictures taken out of the books (or weblog), with no more artistic effort than putting a PF logo on there, so I don't think they'd be interesting enough to share.


In reference to SirUrza KaeYoss wrote:
(well, actually I enjoyed the winding up part :D)

You're not alone, but I've been showing restraint this week.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Pfft. Wait till my evil cleric comes to your town!


Maybe she's the missing crossbow merchant of Korvosa?

(One of my players has been complaining because even though the crossbow is the weapon of choice for followers of Abadar there's nobody explicitly described in the Korvosa book as selling them. I'm half-tempted to just let him be right and suffer. *eg*)

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tbug wrote:

Maybe she's the missing crossbow merchant of Korvosa?

(One of my players has been complaining because even though the crossbow is the weapon of choice for followers of Abadar there's nobody explicitly described in the Korvosa book as selling them. I'm half-tempted to just let him be right and suffer. *eg*)

You should totally make him suffer. I'm pretty sure I put in the caveat in GtK that not every single market or shop was described therein. Only the ones I thought would be interesting. ;)


Mike McArtor wrote:
You should totally make him suffer. I'm pretty sure I put in the caveat in GtK that not every single market or shop was described therein. Only the ones I thought would be interesting. ;)

I honestly don't remember if you did or not, but even if you didn't it's totally unnecessary. Of course not every business is described! (I hope that it was clear that I intended no criticism of you, Mr McArtor, sir.)

Okay, how's this? Until recently there were three freelance crossbow merchants in Korvosa. The first, Ort Xusino, made a fortune during the tricentennial last year and fulfilled his lifelong dream to move to Absolom. The second, Chetai Scarnetti, heard that her cousin Titus (who had somehow managed to actually be considered nobility in the backwater town of Sandpoint) got himself killed by an invading force of half-trolls or something, so she moved there to make sure that no hinterland vultures took what was rightfully hers. The third, Nyler Snesche, was pretty pleased to find himself the only crossbow merchant to speak of in the city, and decided to hold a big promotional hunt against the city's wererats. Nobody has seen him since.

So fine, there are no crossbow merchants other than those working directly for the civil authorities. I'm sure that there are crossbows turning up for sale in the Dock Trade on a regular basis, and before long someone will have sufficient skill to open a shop (or retire from civil weaponsmaking service, or whatever), but yeah, right now there are no crossbow merchants. Maybe at most an occasional table in the Gold Market until they can raise enough capital to rent a shop.

Anything else we should complain about? *eg*


tbug wrote:
Mike McArtor wrote:
You should totally make him suffer. I'm pretty sure I put in the caveat in GtK that not every single market or shop was described therein. Only the ones I thought would be interesting. ;)

I honestly don't remember if you did or not, but even if you didn't it's totally unnecessary. Of course not every business is described! (I hope that it was clear that I intended no criticism of you, Mr McArtor, sir.)

Okay, how's this? Until recently there were three freelance crossbow merchants in Korvosa. The first, Ort Xusino, made a fortune during the tricentennial last year and fulfilled his lifelong dream to move to Absolom. The second, Chetai Scarnetti, heard that her cousin Titus (who had somehow managed to actually be considered nobility in the backwater town of Sandpoint) got himself killed by an invading force of half-trolls or something, so she moved there to make sure that no hinterland vultures took what was rightfully hers. The third, Nyler Snesche, was pretty pleased to find himself the only crossbow merchant to speak of in the city, and decided to hold a big promotional hunt against the city's wererats. Nobody has seen him since.

So fine, there are no crossbow merchants other than those working directly for the civil authorities. I'm sure that there are crossbows turning up for sale in the Dock Trade on a regular basis, and before long someone will have sufficient skill to open a shop (or retire from civil weaponsmaking service, or whatever), but yeah, right now there are no crossbow merchants. Maybe at most an occasional table in the Gold Market until they can raise enough capital to rent a shop.

Anything else we should complain about? *eg*

~laughter~ Good one!

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tbug wrote:
I honestly don't remember if you did or not, but even if you didn't it's totally unnecessary. Of course not every business is described! (I hope that it was clear that I intended no criticism of you, Mr McArtor, sir.)

I didn't take your comments as criticism. I was just helping your player understand why no crossbow merchants are specifically listed. ;) Also, you need not apologize for anything anyway. If I can't take a little criticism for my works I shouldn't be a writer. :) Finally, just call me Mike. Mr. McArtor is my dad. :D

tbug wrote:

Okay, how's this? Until recently there were three freelance crossbow merchants in Korvosa. The first, Ort Xusino, made a fortune during the tricentennial last year and fulfilled his lifelong dream to move to Absolom. The second, Chetai Scarnetti, heard that her cousin Titus (who had somehow managed to actually be considered nobility in the backwater town of Sandpoint) got himself killed by an invading force of half-trolls or something, so she moved there to make sure that no hinterland vultures took what was rightfully hers. The third, Nyler Snesche, was pretty pleased to find himself the only crossbow merchant to speak of in the city, and decided to hold a big promotional hunt against the city's wererats. Nobody has seen him since.

So fine, there are no crossbow merchants other than those working directly for the civil authorities. I'm sure that there are crossbows turning up for sale in the Dock Trade on a regular basis, and before long someone will have sufficient skill to open a shop (or retire from civil weaponsmaking service, or whatever), but yeah, right now there are no crossbow merchants. Maybe at most an occasional table in the Gold Market until they can raise enough capital to rent a shop.

Anything else we should complain about? *eg*

That is so chock-full of awesome I must commend you!

*commend commend*

Liberty's Edge

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Besides.. Mr McArtor makes Mike sound important. :P


SirUrza wrote:
Besides.. Mr McArtor makes Mike sound important. :P

Yea. We can't let that happen, now can we? ~grins~

The Exchange

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Mike McArtor wrote:
You should totally make him suffer. I'm pretty sure I put in the caveat in GtK that not every single market or shop was described therein. Only the ones I thought would be interesting. ;)

I think there's a Monty Python sketch here somewhere.

"I'd like a light crossbow and a quiver of bolts, please."

"Sorry, we just sold the last one."

"But this is a crossbow shop..."

Dark Archive Contributor

Ha ha. You guys are full of hilarious. :P

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