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I have never been the greatest Hulk fan. But I enjoyed this movie. Not as good as Iron Man better than Spidey 3 and better than the FF movies. Pisses on X3 (which should be deleted from existence).
I'm really looking forward to The Avengers movie now! ;) (Something tells me it will be The Ultimates however.)
Yeah I'm betting on the Avengers name but in an Ultimates stylee (see the Ultimate Avengers animated stuff for the kind of thing I mean.)
RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32
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This newest iteration of "The Incredible Hulk" is probably one of the best superhero movies I've ever seen. "Iron Man" was also incredibly good and, honestly, it's hard to say which one I prefer. "Iron Man" definitely had a deeper plot and a bit more characterization, but "Hulk" had some utterly fantastic fight scenes.
Also, "Hulk" had the single most amazing "STFU" moment in movie history:
Also, "Hulk" had the single most amazing "STFU" moment in movie history:
** spoiler omitted **
Oh yeah! We burst out laughing at that!
Finally saw it. The beginning was enjoyable, but a little slow, though it still moved a lot more freely than the original movie did. Once we got into the parts with "Mr. Blue" and beyond though, I was pretty happy with the pay off.
I also think its interesting that both movies tried to incorporate elements of the TV series as well as the comic book, but while the original seemed to throw in elements of both but still go off on its own morose tangent, this one seemed to do a much better job of references the TV series and comics, and still making a good movie out of them.
But to be fair, it was a good movie, not a great movie. Not as good as Iron Man by a long shot, but worth watching, and not a big slap in the face if you are a Hulk fan.
Still, I wish someone would work Rick into one of these somehow.
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But at least we'll get to see Mr. Blue as "The Leader" next time maybe.Sadly, I doubt there will be a sequel with the numbers the movie has done...
I don't know about that, it'll most likely make enough to pay off the budget of the movie just at the box-office, and then DVD sales will bring it some significant profit. A movie making over $100 million at the box-office gets sequels.
Plus, there'll be renewed interest in these franchises if the Avengers movie does well.
The Hulk was a lot of FUN!!! I was surprised at the amount of tool-use the Hulk used; I had expected general fisticuff mayhem, not boxing gloves of steel. Still, really, really cool.
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The thing about the Hulk is that it cost $150 million to make with what was probably a fairly expensive marketing campaign on top of that. Also, I read somewhere that the profits are split 60-40 or 70-30 with the distributors and theaters that put the movies out.
The movie will probably squeak up to 130-$140 million domestically in addition to maybe a little less than worldwide. That doesn't sound too promising when you put those numbers together and then subtract all the costs.
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The thing about the Hulk is that it cost $150 million to make with what was probably a fairly expensive marketing campaign on top of that. Also, I read somewhere that the profits are split 60-40 or 70-30 with the distributors and theaters that put the movies out.
The movie will probably squeak up to 130-$140 million domestically in addition to maybe a little less than worldwide. That doesn't sound too promising when you put those numbers together and then subtract all the costs.
This is true. It'll probably still be a bit in the red when it stops showing in theatres, but I really think DVD sales will make a significant profit.
This is a comic-book movie, after all. They always sell well on DVD, seeing as comic-book fans are often avid collectors. I think it'll end up in the black after DVD sales. Maybe not as far as they'd like, but really, any movie that ends up making a profit deserves a sequel, to some degree.
I mean, if Hellboy got a sequel, anything can!
RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16
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The thing about the Hulk is that it cost $150 million to make with what was probably a fairly expensive marketing campaign on top of that. Also, I read somewhere that the profits are split 60-40 or 70-30 with the distributors and theaters that put the movies out.
The movie will probably squeak up to 130-$140 million domestically in addition to maybe a little less than worldwide. That doesn't sound too promising when you put those numbers together and then subtract all the costs.
Also, after it's second weekend, it's domestic gross was about $98 Million already, which means it should more than the 130-140. Domestically, it should probably pay off its cost, and when you add worldwide sales on top, it's theatrical release will have made good money, not to mention the DVD, and increased hulk comics, etc that the movie will generate.
Another way to look at how the movie is doing compared to expectations, is by looking at the Marvel stock (ticker symbol: MVL). Since the movie's release, MVL has had good increases in its stock price, and this week had an analyst upgrade it's ranking from neutral to outperform.
I would be very surprised if there wasn't a Hulk sequel.
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Who knows, we'll have to wait and see, I am rooting for it to happen as it was a great movie and I'd like to see the next one with the Leader.
And Hellboy shocked the hell out of me, it must have done amazing DVD sales to get the greenlight for number 2.
Agreed, I also hope to see a sequel!
As for Hellboy 2, I really think that it got the green light for two reasons:
1) Guillermo Del Toro is now a big name in Hollywood due to Pan's Labyrinth, and
2) Comic-book movies have consistently good box-office returns these days.
I was kind of hoping they would replace the actress for the pyro character, I didn't like her so much in the first one. However, Perlman and Tambor are still there, so I think it'll be pretty good. Does anyone know if David Hyde Pierce will reprise his role as Blue?
I know Hulk will show up again in The Avengers....But I would really love to see a Hulk 2 with The Leader.
Id be very dissapointed if that didnt happen.
And Hellboy was awesome. I loved that movie. Im so glad to see a prt 2. And the trailers look fantastic.
Hellboy 2 is making me giddy. :)
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Wasn't the college student who witnessed the Hulk fight on campus named Rick? I thought that they might be setting up his character for use in a sequel.
They showed a TV interview with 2 college students, with names in a caption bar. One was Jim Wilson, and the other was Jack McGee. The former is the name of a young, black man that Hulk befrended in the comics, later dying of AIDs during Hulk's "Merged Hulk/Professor" days. The latter is the name of the tabloid reporter constantly hounding David Banner in the 1970s TV show, which struck me as an odd name to attach to a college-age kid.
I was keeping an eye out for it, and there was no Rick Jones reference that I caught.
I was really hoping that Mr. Blue was Beast, but I knew in my heart-of-hearts it was not to be. But that would have been awesome.
Not possible. The X-Men and Fantastic Four film licenses are owned by FOX, Spider-Man by Sony/Columbia Pictures and Punisher by Lion's Gate.
Marvel Studios is only able to do the "shared universe" thing and Avengers film because they've developed their own independent film studio and produced the movies themselves.
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Well, I'm going to buck the trend and say I was really disappointed and bored by the new Hulk movie. I thought the first one blew it out of the water on just about every measure.
Tim Roth was excellent as Emil, though I found it hard to believe he was this bad-ass military guy. He's so tiny. I think they're probably were other, better ways to bring him into the story, but whatever.
As for the rest of the film: I found the story weak and predictable, and utterly lacking in substance. It was just dull sitting through it.
Edward Norton, a terrific actor, was given nothing to work with. Very disappointing. I'll have to spoiler the next bit, but my biggest complaint about this movie was...
The rest of the actors I could only compare to the same people who played them in the previous film. Liv Tyler is a sorry-ass replacement for Jennifer Connolly. True, Connolly has the edge since I've been in love with her since Labyrinth came out (I was 13!), but she's also just a way, way better actress. WAY better. And every time I looked at John Hurt I wanted to see Sam Elliot.
The biggest disappointment was the special effects and cinematography. Compared to Ang Lee's film, this movie was amateurish and dull. Lee's film, with it's use of sliding cut-scenes, amazing wipes and dissolves, and other stylish tricks really raised the bar for superhero films. This movie lowered it. The only noteworthy moment in the film is a long, beautiful helicopter shot of the slums of Brazil, which is truly amazing to see, especially if you've seen films like City of God that are set in this area but couldn't afford these sort of panoramic shots.
I've got Gailbraithe's back in this one. I had mixed feelings about the Ang Lee Hulk when I first saw it - parts of it were outstanding, and parts aggressively goofy. The new Hulk film was better than I was expecting - it managed to be a competent, traditional superhero film. But the big Abomination / Hulk climax was just dull, messy, and full of irritating cliches ("Is that all you've got??" Argh.) The best thing about the film was Mr. Blue - I was glad all traces of that plotline were kept out of the trailers.
Last night I rewatched the Ang Lee film... and all the goofiness was just part of the charm this time. And the awesomeness was magnified. Some points:
- Bana's Banner was just fantastic. I love Ed Norton, and he was fine, but the movie didn't have a lot to say about him. Bana brings some fantastic scenes, though, my favorite moment being coming down out of being the Hulk for the second time and nearly attacking Betty ("He... sent his dogs... but I killed them...!")
- The 2003 Hulk was just... hulkier. They had a substantially better model than the too human-looking Leterrier Hulk (though I wish have loved to see something that looked more like the early concept art as seen here), and better CGI performance - the Lee Hulk seems more out-of-control angry, whereas the Leterrier Hulk just appears to put on an angry act - lots of roaring at the camera to show you how much rage he has.
- For all the rep it has as slow and cerebral, the Ang Lee Hulk spends most of the tail end of the movie in a single huge action sequence that runs from the military base back to San Francisco, goes through a number of distinct phases, and just flows beautifully. And still manages to work in ANOTHER dream sequence, giving us our Hulk dialog for the film - sorry, Mr. Ferrigno, but I'll take the first film's "Puny human!" over the more recent "Leave me alone!" and "Hulk smash!", neither of which had much oomph.
- Jennifer Connelly over Liv Tyler? Any day, any time.
And in the end, I am no doubt a nerd of a whole 'nother magnitude for critiquing a superhero film with, "It didn't feel like it had a strong theme that carried through and informed the final physical conflict - there wasn't really anything at stake beyond who would lose the fight." But, well, there it is. The final conflict in the 2003 film may have been nigh-incomprehensible, but a) at least it's actually pretty short, and b) it felt like it was about something.
Oh, and Nick Nolte's over-the-top performance? An acquired taste, sure. But the second time around, I just embraced the craziness and dug it. Watched it with my 5- and 8-year-old, who also enjoyed the parts they understood. I'm looking forward to watching it with my wife.
(And for the complaints about fighting a mutant poodle - man, are you trying to prove right the snooty Europeans who claim American's don't get irony? =) )