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Shadow Lodge

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Yesterday I posted this:

I call him Mr. Huggums!

So I thought, "What the heck", and decided to make a place to display all the daily previews.

Here's todays:

Devils or are they demons? Demon-Devils? Who really knows with 4th Ed.


Glad to see Imps and Ice Devils look the same.

The devil in the armor is cool but Im assuming hes a new breed or type of devil.

The 4-armed pink thing looks lame as heck.

So WitC is showing off one peiece of 4th edition art a day? Cool.
I'll have to keep an eye on this thread if you keep posting links. :)


Jason Grubiak wrote:

Glad to see Imps and Ice Devils look the same.

The devil in the armor is cool but Im assuming hes a new breed or type of devil.

The 4-armed pink thing looks lame as heck.

So WitC is showing off one peiece of 4th edition art a day? Cool.
I'll have to keep an eye on this thread if you keep posting links. :)

Isn't the "pink thing" a four-armed choker?


I really doubt it. The big gimmick of the chocker is the fact that it has boneless, stretchy limbs. This thing is way to muscular.

Plus the choker has those hands covered in spikes. Thsi guy has claws.

Theres really not much at all that makes me think its a choker other than a face that is only sort of similar.

But then again I never read any text..I just am looking at the pciture.


Here's the link to the main page for the art. It has descriptive text for all the pictures.

http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/artpreview

Mr. Huggins is apparently a Blood Fiend.

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The Cambion
Cambions are the offspring of devils and depraved or unwitting mortals, inheriting the worst traits of each parent.

The Gibbering Orb
Gibbering orbs are denizens of the Far Realm that wander the planes and the places between, consuming living creatures.

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And to add to my previous posts

The Blood Fiend
Vicious, bloodthirsty predators, blood fiends have a countenance so terrifying that they can stop other creatures in their tracks with a baleful glare

The Legion Devil, Ice Devil and Imp
The armies of the Nine Hells are largely made up of legion devils—cruel, pitiless warriors that gather in countless numbers from the scorched plains of Avernus to the deepest chasms of Nessus.


Jason Grubiak wrote:


The devil in the armor is cool but Im assuming hes a new breed or type of devil.

Sort of - From Fiendish Codex II I believe. A kind of interesting devil in that they had a gimmick that allowed them to be more powerful with numbers. Something I have to say I appreciate as my biggest problem with Demons and Devils are that there are too many low CR ones kicking around. Demons and Devils work best, IMO, from a game mechanics point of view if they have high CR.

By the time your powerful enough to visit the lower planes there really is no use for endless swarms of low CR demons. They are so weak they can't challenge the party. For fluff reasons and to provide some interesting summoned lower planar creatures some weak CR Demons are good but you don't need very many. Demons and Devils serve best (as usual IMO) as good challenges for higher level groups. Demon or devil themed adventures are a great staple of high level play and my biggest grip for these monsters in 3.5 is that the vast majority of Demons are much too weak to be used. I can sort of understand the tendency to keep the old standbys roughly of similar power but was surprised to see how many CR 3-8 New Fiends where made in 3.5. I just don't really see what role they have in the game.


Why does the Gibbering Orb totally creep me out? Must be Cthulhu senses kicking in again.


I look at that blood fiend and all I can see is a Warhammer 40k Genestealer.

That in and of itself is humorous to me.

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The Black Bard wrote:

I look at that blood fiend and all I can see is a Warhammer 40k Genestealer.

That in and of itself is humorous to me.

Hmm...

Genestealer
________

Blood Fiend

This can only one thing. The Genestealers were orignally from the Abyss, until a spacial/planar rift occured transporting the current 40k universe!

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The Tarrasque
terrifying embodiment of wantom destruction, the tarrasque attacks without motivation or purpose—unless that purpose is to obliterate all life.


Crowheart wrote:
Why does the Gibbering Orb totally creep me out? Must be Cthulhu senses kicking in again.

All abberations have that affect.


Lazaro wrote:

Hmm...

Genestealer
________

Blood Fiend

This can only one thing. The Genestealers were orignally from the Abyss, until a spacial/planar rift occured transporting the current 40k universe!

That is an exceptional horrible picture of a genestealer. That must be an older edition.

This is a more halfway decent picture.

It is surprisingly difficult to find a good picture of a genestealer... at least with google.


Sacrilige! That picture is the original genestealer from Rogue Trader. All other genestealers are not worthy of the name!

Dang kids... grumble grumble ;)

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There they go making Demons into Devils. Cambions are now devils. Yippee...

Big T does look cool though.

Scarab Sages

primemover003 wrote:
Big T does look cool though.

Unfortunately that picture makes me think of the wannabe Godzilla from the awful movie of the same name.

Scarab Sages

Lazaro wrote:

The Cambion

Cambions are the offspring of devils and depraved or unwitting mortals, inheriting the worst traits of each parent.

Is the female a cambion too?


It's crazy they're bringing back Cambions! Haven't seen them in a while. I think the female half-fiends were Alu-fiends back in the day, right? Hrms ...

Dark Archive

The Black Bard wrote:
I look at that blood fiend and all I can see is a Warhammer 40k Genestealer

Right down to the skin color !!

Assemble the spacemarines !

David Marks wrote:
It's crazy they're bringing back Cambions! Haven't seen them in a while. I think the female half-fiends were Alu-fiends back in the day, right? Hrms ...

alu-fiends were another type of demon entirely, one that occured when a succubus got her way with a mortal man; whilst cambions were the product of male demons and female mortals. Iuz of the World of Greyhawk being the preeminent one.

Scarab Sages

David Marks wrote:
It's crazy they're bringing back Cambions! Haven't seen them in a while. I think the female half-fiends were Alu-fiends back in the day, right? Hrms ...

They are, I believe, in the first Tome of Horrors.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:
The Black Bard wrote:
I look at that blood fiend and all I can see is a Warhammer 40k Genestealer

Right down to the skin color !!

Assemble the spacemarines !

David Marks wrote:
It's crazy they're bringing back Cambions! Haven't seen them in a while. I think the female half-fiends were Alu-fiends back in the day, right? Hrms ...
alu-fiends were another type of demon entirely, one that occured when a succubus got her way with a mortal man; whilst cambions were the product of male demons and female mortals. Iuz of the World of Greyhawk being the preeminent one.

Hmm, that could be it. I remember that Cambions/Alu-fiends were both what we'd call a Half-Fiend nowadays. Weren't all Cambions male and all Alu-fiends female though?

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David Marks wrote:
Hmm, that could be it. I remember that Cambions/Alu-fiends were both what we'd call a Half-Fiend nowadays. Weren't all Cambions male and all Alu-fiends female though?

They were up to second ed Planescape then it may get a little foggy. Remember that Grazz't has had FEMALE balor demons since first ed when they were called type VI demons and balor was one of the named demons.

There was a layer in the Abyss that was a stronghold of alu demons and cambions and each was distinctly femal and male respectively.

Scarab Sages

David Marks wrote:
Weren't all Cambions male and all Alu-fiends female though?

That was the case in both AD&D and in 3e via the Tome of Horrors.

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I'm sure everyon has seen this one but:

Adamantine Dragon


Intriguing that this artist has made this dragon more crocodilian than Wood and Lockwood's feline dragons. Well-executed.

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I give you...
The Efreet
Efreets are crafty conjurers of fire native to the Elemental Chaos.


Lazaro wrote:

I give you...

The Efreet
Efreets are crafty conjurers of fire native to the Elemental Chaos.

Is the efreeti from the left supposed to be female?

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The Githzerai
Slaves in a long lost illithid empire, the githzerai were once one people with the githyanki


Krauser_Levyl wrote:
Lazaro wrote:

I give you...

The Efreet
Efreets are crafty conjurers of fire native to the Elemental Chaos.
Is the efreeti from the left supposed to be female?

I hope it's not female... That'd be one heinous chick. I'm thinking it's just more cerebral efreeti.. you know, less muscular due to having more ranged abilities or somesuch.


Evil Genius wrote:
I hope it's not female... That'd be one heinous chick. I'm thinking it's just more cerebral efreeti.. you know, less muscular due to having more ranged abilities or somesuch.

It seems to have a female body...

Ugh... this is the worst 4E art I've seem so far. Although I don't like any official efreet art, perhaps.

The githzerai look good, however.


The githzerai look awesome.

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The Rakshasa Assassin
Despite their bestial features, rakshasas are clever, malicious, and sophisticated.

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Hello, hello, hello! The newest art is up...

The Githyanki
Born out of slavery, the Githyanki are fierce psychic warriors that ply the Astral Sea and fight with silver swords.

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Well it's time to make one more post. It had to happen sometime, so allow me to introduce you to

The Gnome
Gnomes are sly tricksters who excel at avoiding notice as they move between the Feywild and the world, driven by curiosity and wanderlust.


Holy hell, that is a fugly gnome! Maybe D&D softened me up for WoW, which then made Pathfinder seem "just about right", but I mean....dang!

I can just hear Steven Lynch busting out into "Damn, That's an Ugly Baby" right now....

EDIT I looked at it again, thought maybe I judged too soon. Nope, looks like a constipated male elf rock singer's head on a 10 year old girl's body. I am officially not sleeping tonight. Where's my Chtulhu plushie and my HR Geiger artbook? I need comforting visuals, at least relatively....


gnome huh looks like a satyr to me


Well, I don't think gnomes were ever handsome on previous editions, or they were supposed to be.

I have mixed feelings about the new gnome. I like that it has a high fantasy feel (like Chronicles of Narnia/Neverending Story/Dungeons & Dragons cartoon), which is perhaps the feel they are trying to imprint on 4E.

In the other hand... it looks like too human. If you pick a person on the street and put them adequate makeup, it will look exactly the 4E gnome. It seems the picture was taken from a poster of a low budget fantasy movie.

And at first glance I also thought it was a satyr.

Note: Design apart, the quality of painting is awesome! I was more impressed by details of the grass than by the monster itself. Unlike Pat Payne, I really enjoy high quality artwork.

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Its time for...

Angels
Angels of protection serve as bodyguards for important persons and others who summon them. They also guard temples and other sites tied to the deities they serve.

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Flee impudent mortals from the wrath of...

The Balor
Few demons are more formidable than the cruel balor. Weaker demons obey the balor’s commands out of fear of being torn asunder.


I'll give 4th Edition one thing: it has some absolutely gorgeous artwork! Except for that Tarrasque: too lumpy and sluggish for my taste. I prefer the lithe, lethal-looking thing from 2E.

The Balor looks awesome, though!

EDIT: It makes me want to shout "YOU CANNOT PASS!!!" as loudly as possible. Then again, Balors always make me feel that way.


Krauser_Levyl wrote:
Is the efreeti from the left supposed to be female?
Evil Genius wrote:
I hope it's not female... That'd be one heinous chick...

I think this is curious -- why are female creatures required to conform to a standard of beauty, when male creatures are not?


Tatterdemalion wrote:
Krauser_Levyl wrote:
Is the efreeti from the left supposed to be female?
Evil Genius wrote:
I hope it's not female... That'd be one heinous chick...
I think this is curious -- why are female creatures required to conform to a standard of beauty, when male creatures are not?

Men are assumed to be ugly, while chicks are assumed to be hot. We dislike things that veer to far from our expectations (maybe that is the source of 4E angst?)

Cheers! :)


T'Ranchule wrote:

I'll give 4th Edition one thing: it has some absolutely gorgeous artwork! Except for that Tarrasque: too lumpy and sluggish for my taste. I prefer the lithe, lethal-looking thing from 2E.

The Balor looks awesome, though!

I want to second this. The artwork in 4e makes me believe the monsters can exist and are scary. The tarrasque in the 3e MM looks like a stuffed doll compared to the one in 4e.

I'll be playing 3.5e for a long, long time. But I almost want to buy the 4e MM just to hijack the art for my games.

Greg


GregH wrote:

I want to second this. The artwork in 4e makes me believe the monsters can exist and are scary. The tarrasque in the 3e MM looks like a stuffed doll compared to the one in 4e.

I'll be playing 3.5e for a long, long time. But I almost want to buy the 4e MM just to hijack the art for my games.

Greg

I do like the artwork in general, although the Balor gave me pause. While definitely looking awesome, the classic weapons of a Balor were still present.

They've said Devils will be more humanoid while Demons more animalistic and feral, but here a Demon wields a whip and sword. Were these sacred cows too flame resistant to be killed?

Cheers! :)


David Marks wrote:
...We dislike things that veer to far from our expectations (maybe that is the source of 4E angst?

Nah. That just comes from WotC trying as hard as they can to alienate customers :)


Tatterdemalion wrote:
David Marks wrote:
...We dislike things that veer to far from our expectations (maybe that is the source of 4E angst?
Nah. That just comes from WotC trying as hard as they can to alienate customers :)

Perhaps that simply veers from your expectations. :P


Tatterdemalion wrote:
Krauser_Levyl wrote:
Is the efreeti from the left supposed to be female?
Evil Genius wrote:
I hope it's not female... That'd be one heinous chick...
I think this is curious -- why are female creatures required to conform to a standard of beauty, when male creatures are not?

Well, the problem with the efreeti is not being an "ugly female". After all, ugly females can still be cool (hags, harpies, etc.)

But the 4E efreeti seems a female which looks like a male. Or maybe it's a male that looks female. I know, we may have a race where males look like human females and females look like human males, but that will generate confusion, and perhaps annoying jokes from your players when you are trying to present the creature in a "serious" way.


David Marks wrote:


I do like the artwork in general, although the Balor gave me pause. While definitely looking awesome, the classic weapons of a Balor were still present.

They've said Devils will be more humanoid while Demons more animalistic and feral, but here a Demon wields a whip and sword. Were these sacred cows too flame resistant to be killed?

The fact that the whip resembles one wielded in a movie seen by a gazillion people might not hurt.

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The Dark One
Native to the Shadowfell, dark ones are sly, murderous creatures clad in black garments. They come to the world with sinister schemes, take and learn what they can, and slink back into the gloom.

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