I was just curious if anyone elses PC's started screwing with...
[spoiler] Malfeshnekor
See the moment Malfeshnekor revealed himself the PC's rushed out of the room (they were extraordinarily cautious upon opening the door in the first place) and shut the door. But instead of leaving, they just listened to the barghest pound and scream and such in his maddening desperation. Also the party guessed that he was bound, and was proven such when he eventually broke the door via attacks.
In any case my rogue ended up taunting/mocking/belittling him for a good few rounds, my mind is devoid of some examples at the moment...
But I was wondering if something similar happened to anyone else?
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I was just curious if anyone elses PC's started screwing with...
Spoiler:MalfeshnekorSee the moment he revealed himself the PC's rushed out of the room (they were extraordinarily cautious upon opening the door in the first place) and shut the door. But instead of leaving, they just listened to the barghest pound and scream and such in his maddening desperation. Also the party guessed that he was bound, and was proven such when he eventually broke the door via attacks.
In any case my rogue ended up taunting/mocking/belittling him for a good few rounds, my mind is devoid of some examples at the moment...
But I was wondering if something similar happened to anyone else?
While not able to comment, I would note that closing your tags is usually a good idea if you're trying to prevent soilers (although I doubt his name is much of a giveaway, to be honest).
So, basically, the rogue mocked him and behaved like a punk? Hmm. I wonder if that might technically count as a Sin...
So, basically, the rogue mocked him and behaved like a punk? Hmm. I wonder if that might technically count as a Sin...
Sloth, maybe, since they were too lazy to kill him :P
*sigh* "Gosh, that seems like a lot of work. Let's just taunt him for a while"
Haven't gotten that far yet. Sorry.
My players haven't gotten there yet, but here's my two coppers:
Taunting M while the door is closed is petty, and he probably can't hear you that well anyway. Maybe worth a "sin point" for wrath? How about sloth for being too lazy to actually go in and take him out?
Taunting M while the door is open is dangerous. He is free to cast Crushing Despair and Charm Monster on anyone in the next room.
I've seen many posts where one of the PCs got charmed by M and then walked into the room with him, where they were subsequently "pwned".
Giles: "Xander, don't taunt the fear demon."
Xander: "Why? Can he hurt me?"
Giles: "No, it's just...tacky."
...I think that, as in so many ways, Joss Whedon speaks for us all.
Giles: "Xander, don't taunt the fear demon."
Xander: "Why? Can he hurt me?"
Giles: "No, it's just...tacky."...I think that, as in so many ways, Joss Whedon speaks for us all.
Buffy Quote FTW!
I wouldn't give a sloth point for taunting; sloth is more a sin of inaction. In this case, they'd be sinful if they knowingly left Mal alone, and considered the matter closed.
I wouldn't call it wrath, either—it isn't violent enough.
I think the best case that could be made is that taunting is a sin of pride. The PC verbally places himself "above" Mal, when he in fact is not. The PC thus has an overly positive self-image that he attained at the expense of another. That's arrogant and overconfident; prideful.
Taunting is definitely a Pride thing.
And yes, Malfeshnekor has spells that can affect PCs on the other side of the binding. He can't leave, but his magic can.
My players haven't gotten there yet, but here's my two coppers:
** spoiler omitted **
Hmmm? Maybe Nualia has other followers arriving soon from elsewhere? If the pc's have cleared The dungeon, set off any traps and revealed all the secret doors then an unholy contingient of the relevant diety may well get easy access to the room and thus free Malf to wreak revenge, they are good trackers after all!!
My PCs opened the door and looked in at Malfeshnikor, who promptly charmed the party leader. Even though the rest of the PCs strongly suspected that something was wrong, they didn't want to fight Malfeshnikor, and doubly didn't want to fight him with the party leader under a spell. So Malfeshnikor sent the whole group off looking for a "Greater Sihedron Amulet" to get him out of the imprisoning spell.
I gave the Amulet to Xanesha, and the PCs eventually got hold of it. They then returned to Malfeshnikor. The party leader walked into his room, undid the binding, and said, "You're free to leave--if you can get past me alive." Bloodshed ensued, but the PCs were 7th level by this point, so most of it was Malfeshnikor's blood. (And of course the charm had worn off several days previously.)
Not a very safe response, but it gets points for flair. (Probably the sin of Pride.)
Mary
Taunting could be considered part of pride, yes. Mark him one for pride. It shouldn't affect his alignment or anything.
But Mal sure is attractive, eh? One of my players has his name (well, actually description, since they don't know his name) on his character sheet, in big letters, with a note to go take him down when they're stronger.
They encountered him, one of the fighters was basically beaten within an inch of his life in one round, and they retreated.
Of course, they couldn't just leave the matter alone. Thinking that the door kept him in (they always quickly closed it. They still don't know that he's bound in the room by maagic), they closed the door and left to rest.
They then returned and survived several rounds, each by sheer luck (he was blinked and never hit with all three attacks - sometimes the attack roll was too low, sometimes the miss chance from blink saved them. Had any character been hit by all three attacks, he'd have been dogfood right there.)
So now they are waiting until they're a bit stronger and then will return to thistletop and attack him again. (I'm still contemplating making him stronger when they return, just to mess with them).
Damn, I was sure I closed that tag....That's what I get for staying up for three days.
In any case, Although he probably shouldn't have been able to bust down the door, The Rogue was right on the other side and I kinda wanted it to crush him, he moved beforehand though and M already used his ranged attacks. Also there were ready actions made against the door so it turned into a pretty epic battle. Malfeshnekor touched my Knight players lance and dimension doored deeper into the room. Fortunately for him this forced him to draw a magic weapon so he started doing real damage. Although I thought it a bit off to have M break down his door, I ended up not regretting the decision.
Anyway I've got my different sins assigned and hopefully will be entering the Manor this weekend. That should be entertaining. I'm looking forward to RP'ing his Lordship.