I've been searching for answers on this, and I've found it scattered here and there... But as someone who refuses to buy the preview books, and hasn't had enough time to read them cover to cover at Borders, I'd like to know if someone can give me the skinny...
And who the heck is Torog, and why do I keep wanting to call him Trogdor?
Bahamut
Tiamat
Corellon
Sehanine
Lolth
the Raven Queen
Vecna
Zehir
Avandra
Ioun
Pelor
Moradin
Kord
Bane
Asmodeus
Torog
Obad-Hai
Gruumsh
That's what I've gleaned so far. According to Worlds and Monsters there will be twenty plus one major gods. Other "godlings" or exarchs will also be present but they will be in the service of the major gods.
My understanding is that they are using Obad-Hai, Tharizdun, Asmodeous (was given a boost), these are in addition to those below. Here's some comments from Dragon #360. I wish I could recall where I saw references to the other deities I mentioned but I'm positive about reading that they were in. Anyway, hope this helps.
Dragon #360:
The family of gods for 4th Edition is a mix of old and new. You'll see familiar faces like Corellon, Moradin, and Pelor, and some new faces as well, like Zehir, Torog, and Bane.
Corellon: The elf god is a good example of a god who kept his well-earned place in the D&D pantheon. But "the elf god" shouldn't be taken to literally. Sure, he's often depicted as an elf or an eladrin, and many eladrin in particular revere him. But he's equally popular among human wizards, and even dwarves who practice the finer arts are prone to offering him prayers. One of our goals with the new pantheon was to loosen the tight associations between gods and races that has in the past led to the creation of whole pantheons full of elf, dwarf, orc, and goblin deities. Corellon is still associated with elfy things like arcane magic and the Feywild, and he still hates Lolth and the drow. But his appeal is a little broader now.
Bahamut: Here's another example of a familiar, draconic face showing up in a somewhat new light. Maybe it was the Platinum Knight prestige class in Draconomicon that did it, but something convinced me a long time ago that Bahamut was a much cooler god of paladins than Heironeous ever was. Like Corellon, Bahamut's not just for dragons any more. He's the god of justice, protection, and honor, and many paladins of all races worship him. Many metallic dragons revere him as well, thinking of him as the first of their kind. Some legends about Bahamut describe him as literally a shining platinum dragon, while others describe him as a more anthropomorphic deity, who's called the Platinum Dragon as a title of respect. Exhorting his followers to protect the weak, liberate the oppressed, and defend just order, Bahamut stands as the exemplar of the paladin's ideal.
Bane: Here's another god whose placeholder name just stuck, despite some reservations. We wanted an evil war god in the pantheon, and without Heironeous, Hextor didn't make a lot of sense. We wanted the kind of heavily militaristic god whose temples you might find among non-evil societies who have spent long years at war, as well as among hobgoblins. We wanted a god who embodied just the sort of tyrannical dictatorship that Bane stands for in the Forgotten Realms. We started calling him Bane as a placeholder. He went through a number of different, unsatisfying names. Finally, someone said we should just call him Bane. So Bane he remained.
She is the goddess of death, winter, and fate - she used to have a name but it has been lost to history. She now resides in the Shadowfell, known only as the Raven Queen.
Worlds and Monsters doesn't give a whole lot of detail on her.
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The Raven Queen sounds interesting. Sort of unseelie, like the Queen of Air and Darkness mentioned in Monster Mythology.
I'm not a fan of random gods being plucked out of Greyhawk, the Realms and whatnot. Dump 'em all and start fresh, as Keith Baker did in Eberron, or pick one, IMO.
I never liked Vecna becoming a god, and I'm doubting that I'll like Ioun any better. What high-level NPC makes the jump next, Drizzt? Bobby the Barbarian? Ugh.
I'm not a fan of random gods being plucked out of Greyhawk, the Realms and whatnot. Dump 'em all and start fresh, as Keith Baker did in Eberron, or pick one, IMO.
I find it amusing (and a bit sad) that they felt certain existing D&D deities supposedly "fit" into their new pantheon so well that they couldn't come up with another non-setting specific deity to use, yet they did manage to make a few new deities.
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I find it amusing (and a bit sad) that they felt certain existing D&D deities supposedly "fit" into their new pantheon so well that they couldn't come up with another non-setting specific deity to use, yet they did manage to make a few new deities.
Creating a whole new pantheon might be considered too hard?
Nah, actually, since the focus of 25+ level play is now fighting, killing and replacing gods, they probably kept a few of the originals around just so that high-level characters could kick them around. Who hasn't wanted to punch Bane in the head? Hey Vecna, prepare to lose some more body parts! I've seen a few Corellon-haters floating around as well, and this could be their big chance!
Pity they ganked Mystra before I got a character to 30th... She was seriously in need of a spanking. Then again, Mystras die faster than Orcs, so I guess I'd have to level up pretty darn fast to get one before it died in one of those common-as-mud Realms-Shaking-Events that Change Everything! (TM)
Washingon, Lincoln, Grant, Hamilton, Jefferson, Franklin....
I find it amusing (and a bit sad) that they felt certain existing D&D deities supposedly "fit" into their new pantheon so well that they couldn't come up with another non-setting specific deity to use, yet they did manage to make a few new deities.Creating a whole new pantheon might be considered too hard?
Nah, actually, since the focus of 25+ level play is now fighting, killing and replacing gods, they probably kept a few of the originals around just so that high-level characters could kick them around. Who hasn't wanted to punch Bane in the head? Hey Vecna, prepare to lose some more body parts! I've seen a few Corellon-haters floating around as well, and this could be their big chance!
Pity they ganked Mystra before I got a character to 30th... She was seriously in need of a spanking. Then again, Mystras die faster than Orcs, so I guess I'd have to level up pretty darn fast to get one before it died in one of those common-as-mud Realms-Shaking-Events that Change Everything! (TM)
Just wait for her to respawn. You'll get your chance.
Tatterdemalion -- Curmudgeon god of Previous Game Editions.
Upstart game designers are fated to spend all eternity in his dark halls, forever doomed to play previous versions of games they've tossed aside.
He is, of course, served by various polyhedral modrons. His most important allies are two demigods -- one gnomish, one half-orc.
I think Jeff the God of Biscuits and Simon the God of Hairdos might make an appearance.
I think Jeff the God of Biscuits and Simon the God of Hairdos might make an appearance.
Izzard reference! Woot!
i'm starting a new campain soon and i need a book that has all the gods/godesses in it can ayone help, i'v look everywhere and i cant find one (need a computer download)
i'm starting a new campain soon and i need a book that has all the gods/godesses in it can ayone help, i'v look everywhere and i cant find one (need a computer download)
Well, for starters.... what do you need -all- the dnd gods for? Do you plan on doing something the likes of For Duty and Deity with cross-world adventures and clerics no longer losing their powers if they move to the neighbouring game setting? Are gods no longer anchored to their homeworlds in 4E?
i'm starting a new campain soon and i need a book that has all the gods/godesses in it can ayone help, i'v look everywhere and i cant find one (need a computer download)
The good and unaligned deities are in the PHB, the evil deities are in the DMG. Stats for Tiamat are in Draconomicon I: Chromatic Dragons, while the stats for Vecna are in Open Grave (the Raven Queen also gets some attention, but no stats). The Manual of the Planes briefly describes each of the Astral Dominions (about 1-2 pages each). Finally, there are several DDI articles that flesh out the deities, such as "Deities & Demigods: Bane" and "Hestavar, the Bright City."
More important then Vecna in the Open Grave is... Kyuss
besides PHB,PHB2 and MP i need all feats listed for 4th edition can anyone help
ps. hosting a big campain, that is why i need all gods and feats at the moment.