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Awrite evil folks and discoverers, I'm ready. Lets kill some fings.

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5 contestants have submitted their PCs, just need the last 3 to review.

FH

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Nilgaar, there are some issues you need to fix in your PCs info.
This is all by my figuring, if I am wrong please let me know how.
I am not infallible.

Reflex save should be +2
Spells per day should be 0level 4/day, 1st 3/day.
I don't think you figured in the -1 to attacks from the buckler to your crossbow attack mod.
You should make a line near your spell features that has the 15% spell failure listed for armor and shield.
and as an aside, make sure you remove 1 AC everytime you use the spiked chain or crossbow in a round as they are 2handed and you lose the buckler's ac mod if you use a 2hander in a round.

Starting gold is 2700 and just between the Oil of Keen edge, potion of haste, and the mithral shirt you would be at 2600. Also you can't spend more than 25% of your starting gold on consumables(675gp is all you can spend on potions, scrolls and such) which would eliminate the Oil of Keen edge and the Potion of haste.

Please post back with adjustments.

FH

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Logan Gibbs, I have reviewed your PC's info and there are a couple things I came across.

You have the Heavy crossbow listed with a threat range of 18-20. It should be 19-20
I don't think you used all of your skill points or you did your fighter level first, please let me know how many skill ranks in total you have.
Under feats and class features you didn't list unarmed strike
and total weight carried is 11 lbs, you didn't figure in the bracers weight.

please update and repost. Thanks, good stat blocks BTW.

FH

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Vanin Ironheart, all I have is 1 minor corrections for you:
You didn't figure in your strength bonus to your ranged spear damage, should read 1d8+3

That's it! Great job!

FH

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Rurin Songsmith, I have a couple correction to your PCs info:

under skills I count 27 ranks used, but I calculate that you have 1 more to spend.
Turn undead is 3/day+cha mod. you have a modifier of 1, thus this should read 4/day unless I missed something.
You need to prepare another 1st level cleric spell, I think you forgot the bonus spell from having a high wisdom.
In equipment, I don't see a holy symbol listed. Even with a generic god you need a symbol to cast. Your equipment total is 2001gp by my calcs, leaving you with 699 gp left. You could still spend another 375 on consumables, but I wanted to let you know what you have left.

Das it. Please update and repost.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:

Rurin Songsmith, I have a couple correction to your PCs info:

*stuff*

Das it. Please update and repost.

Yeah, I switched my Wisdom and Charisma around and forgot to adjust everything, hence the Turn Undead mixup. The skill point I must've just spaced on. And I spent (most) of the rest of my cash. Thanks!

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Rurin Songsmith wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

Rurin Songsmith, I have a couple correction to your PCs info:

*stuff*

Das it. Please update and repost.

Yeah, I switched my Wisdom and Charisma around and forgot to adjust everything, hence the Turn Undead mixup. The skill point I must've just spaced on. And I spent (most) of the rest of my cash. Thanks!

Don't forget to add your remaining gold to the list, should be 93gp by my count.

Good job!

FH


Fake Healer wrote:
Good job!

Eh. I forgot to factor my size modifier into my attack and grapple checks as well. I fixed it, and added the gold. Now I think we're set.


Fake Healer wrote:

Vanin Ironheart, all I have is 1 minor corrections for you:

You didn't figure in your strength bonus to your ranged spear damage, should read 1d8+3

That's it! Great job!

FH

Oops, thanks for catching that. I've updated.

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Rurin Songsmith wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Good job!
Eh. I forgot to factor my size modifier into my attack and grapple checks as well. I fixed it, and added the gold. Now I think we're set.

Darn, totally forgot the small factor....like I said before, I am not infallible.

;P
FH

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Fatespinner and Black Baron are cleared for the Arena.

I am working on Mothman's PC currently.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:

5 contestants have submitted their PCs, just need the last 3 to review.

FH

Not sure if this includes me or not, so here I am for review.


Fake Healer wrote:
You have the Heavy crossbow listed with a threat range of 18-20. It should be 19-20

Woops! Typo. Good catch.

Fake Healer wrote:
I don't think you used all of your skill points or you did your fighter level first, please let me know how many skill ranks in total you have.

Yeah, Fighter was first level. I built it with advancement in Monk in mind. I'll double check, but the ranks should be correct.

Fake Healer wrote:

Under feats and class features you didn't list unarmed strike

and total weight carried is 11 lbs, you didn't figure in the bracers weight.

Oh, yeah. You mean Bracers aren't weightless? :-P

Unless you are reading this right when I post it, consider the profile updated and reposted.

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Jathali wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

5 contestants have submitted their PCs, just need the last 3 to review.

FH

Not sure if this includes me or not, so here I am for review.

I had skipped you, sorry. You are to be reviewed after Gnarash.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:

like I said before, I am not infallible.

;P
FH

Could have fooled me.


Fake Healer wrote:

Nilgaar, there are some issues you need to fix in your PCs info.

This is all by my figuring, if I am wrong please let me know how.
I am not infallible.

Reflex save should be +2
Spells per day should be 0level 4/day, 1st 3/day.

Oops! I think I was looking at the Sorcerer 2 line. My bad. Fixed both issues.

Fake Healer wrote:
I don't think you figured in the -1 to attacks from the buckler to your crossbow attack mod.

There is no attack penalty for bows or crossbows. Check the PHB pg. 124, "You can use a bow or crossbow without penalty while carrying it." So, I figured it in for the spiked chain since it's a melee weapon, but not the crossbow since it doesn't get penalized.

Fake Healer wrote:

You should make a line near your spell features that has the 15% spell failure listed for armor and shield.

and as an aside, make sure you remove 1 AC everytime you use the spiked chain or crossbow in a round as they are 2handed and you lose the buckler's ac mod if you use a 2hander in a round.

Yep. I'm aware and I will. Again, no penalty on the x bow.

Fake Healer wrote:

Starting gold is 2700 and just between the Oil of Keen edge, potion of haste, and the mithral shirt you would be at 2600. Also you can't spend more than 25% of your starting gold on consumables(675gp is all you can spend on potions, scrolls and such) which would eliminate the Oil of Keen edge and the Potion of haste.

Please post back with adjustments.

FH

That's what I get for making a character while on a strong pain killer. I fixed all of that. I should have gold left over, but it can go to the widows of Team Good... cuz they're all dead men walking right now and I aim to fix that right soon.

I should be all dressed up and ready to dance, Arena Master!

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Nilgaar wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

Nilgaar, there are some issues you need to fix in your PCs info.

This is all by my figuring, if I am wrong please let me know how.
I am not infallible.

Fake Healer wrote:
I don't think you figured in the -1 to attacks from the buckler to your crossbow attack mod.
There is no attack penalty for bows or crossbows. Check the PHB pg. 124, "You can use a bow or crossbow without penalty while carrying it." So, I figured it in for the spiked chain since it's a melee weapon, but not the crossbow since it doesn't get penalized.

See!! I told you all that I am not infallible!!

;P

I'll check the changes out tomorrow.

FH

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Garash Gnarlwood, this is what I found:
I believe that "Bitey", your animal companion should have a +4 bite attack, not +5. The only modifier to that with the advancement changes was the strength increase that I see.

Your consumables total to 845gp between the scrolls and alchemists fire, max gp useable toward consumables is 675gp. You need to adjust.

You didn't list your remaining money: you should have 366gp,7sp, and 9cp by my reckoning. Please list this in your equipment.

Please update and re-submit.

BTW, Good build, looks impressive.

FH

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Jathali (Mevers), I need you to address an issue with your PC before I can examine the rest of his profile. I figured in the +2 str and -2 int from being a Wood elf, but your point buy total came to 34. I need you to readjust down to the 32 point buy. I don't really want to check the whole profile when you still have abilities that are gonna be shifting.

Please update and resubmit.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:

Jathali (Mevers), I need you to address an issue with your PC before I can examine the rest of his profile. I figured in the +2 str and -2 int from being a Wood elf, but your point buy total came to 34. I need you to readjust down to the 32 point buy. I don't really want to check the whole profile when you still have abilities that are gonna be shifting.

Please update and resubmit.

FH

The Wood Elf adjustments are in addition to not instead of the High Elf stats, and so they get +2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con and -2 Int.
SRD wrote:

Wood Elf

Their hair color ranges from yellow to a coppery red, and they are more muscular than other elves. Their clothing is in dark shades of green and earth tones to better blend in with their natural surroundings.

Wood Elf Traits (Ex): These traits are in addition to the high elf traits, except where noted.

+2 Strength, –2 Intelligence.

Favored Class: Ranger. This trait replaces the high elf ’s favored class.

To make it clear, here is how I worked out my stats

STR 16 (10 Points) +2 = 18
DEX 14 ( 6 Points) +2 = 16
Con 14 ( 6 Points) -2 = 12
Int 12 ( 4 Points) -2 = 10
Wis 14 ( 6 Points) = 14
Cha 8 ( 0 Points) = 8

I hope that is clear. Sorry for any confusion.

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Ah, I see now! (not infallible, see above);P
Thanks for thinning the mud goggles I have on.

FH


Nilgaar has been updated to reflect his buff round action and Initiative.
When does this fight get under way?


Spartacus is ready to trample some do-gooders! We who are about to die, salute you!
I need to choose a new avatar.
EDIT: Changed avatar.


What the heck is a Red Faction? Is that a class?

Oh, and...

"Welcome to Team Evil, Mr. Spartacus. Nice lance! Y'know what'd look good on it? A fat priest of Kord. You could add some streamers outta gnome entrails, too. Just sayin'."

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Jathali, sorry about the previous mix-up. I think there is one samll issue with your PCs profile:
Your grapple is listed at +6 but I think it should be +10 (+2 bab,+4 str mod,+4 imp grpl= 10)
That's all I got.
Monks are so cool...

Let me know if I did that right and update.

FH

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Spartacus, a couple minor issues:
Under HD you listed 1(39hp), the one should be 3 (I am guessing its a typo)
For the lance damage it should read (triple on a charge) because you have spirited charge.
On the longsword damage you should list that you do double damage if used while charging on horseback(just for clarity and personal preference, mostly).
And the biggie.....Full plate exceeds the "no one item worth more than 50% of total starting gold" rule.

Please adjust and resubmit.

FH

We are almost there people!

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Nilgaar(Steve Greer) your comsumables are still totally to high, you can only have a total of 675gp worth of consumables.

Let me know when you have updated so I can review.

FH

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Heinrich the Bold only has a minor fix or 2:
On the attack line for the mwk comp. longbow, you need to change Atk +6 melee to Atk +6 ranged.
Add another line under equipment to list weight carried (48lbs by my reckoning).

Fix those and you are go for the arena!

FH

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People cleared for the Arena so far:

Nameless with Heinrich the Bold(pending a typo fix and weight omission)
Don Northness with Logan Gibbs (Barry Gibbs' actor uncle, I assume;P)
Black Baron with Vanin Ironheart
Fatespinner with Rurin Songsmith

If your PC or You are not on this list there are some adjustments needed to your PCs profile or an explanation of some sort for my confused state;)

FH (you should be dancin', Yeah! you should be dancin', Yeah! Dammit hate when I get 70s disco stuck in my head)

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Fake Healer wrote:

Nilgaar(Steve Greer) your comsumables are still totally to high, you can only have a total of 675gp worth of consumables.

Let me know when you have updated so I can review.

FH

I thought it was single items not worth more than 675 gp, thus the problem with the haste and keen weapon potion/oil. I see now what you mean. Just a minute or two and I'll have that taken care of.

Contributor

OK. Fixed. If this ain't right, then I'm never gonna get it right. Now let's fight, dammit!!!

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Fake Healer wrote:

People cleared for the Arena so far:

Nameless with Heinrich the Bold(pending a typo fix and weight omission)
Don Northness with Logan Gibbs (Barry Gibbs' actor uncle, I assume;P)
Black Baron with Vanin Ironheart
Fatespinner with Rurin Songsmith

If your PC or You are not on this list there are some adjustments needed to your PCs profile or an explanation of some sort for my confused state;)

FH (you should be dancin', Yeah! you should be dancin', Yeah! Dammit hate when I get 70s disco stuck in my head)

Add Steve Greer with Nilgaar Nowunson to the list of people cleared for the arena.

FH


Spartacus is fixed.

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Spartacus wrote:
Spartacus is fixed.

You forgot to change your Defense listing for the change from full plate to half-plate. Your AC should be 19 with a (+0dex,+7 armor,+2 shield). Frankly, you would be better off with a suit of Banded Mail or a Breastplate. Half-plate eats the dex bonus.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:

Jathali, sorry about the previous mix-up. I think there is one samll issue with your PCs profile:

Your grapple is listed at +6 but I think it should be +10 (+2 bab,+4 str mod,+4 imp grpl= 10)
That's all I got.
Monks are so cool...

Let me know if I did that right and update.

FH

That's fine with the mix up. Easy enough to do.

I have updated the Grapple (yep, forgot to add improved grapple), and now he should be good to go.

Fakey, you have done a phenomenal job on checking the contestants. Well done. I am looking forward to this match for sure.


... has been fixed and has been updated to contain Initiative and buff round information.

Thanks for the feedback! And I am ready to go!

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Fake Healer wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

People cleared for the Arena so far:

Nameless with Heinrich the Bold(pending a typo fix and weight omission)
Don Northness with Logan Gibbs (Barry Gibbs' actor uncle, I assume;P)
Black Baron with Vanin Ironheart
Fatespinner with Rurin Songsmith

If your PC or You are not on this list there are some adjustments needed to your PCs profile or an explanation of some sort for my confused state;)

FH (you should be dancin', Yeah! you should be dancin', Yeah! Dammit hate when I get 70s disco stuck in my head)

Add Steve Greer with Nilgaar Nowunson to the list of people cleared for the arena.

AddMevers with Jathali to the list of people cleared for the arena.

FH

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Just waiting for Garash and Spartacus (Mothman and Vissigoth) to resubmit for approval, then we can start.

FH


Logan Gibbs; your grapple modifier should be +6.

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Black Baron wrote:
Logan Gibbs; your grapple modifier should be +6.

Damn, missed the Improved grapple modifier. Yes, Don Northness, Your grapple modifier should be +6. Thanks Black Baron. Nice catch.

FH

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I guess this won't get underway until tomorrow? I recall that one of the players on our teams was to be unavailable today. Is that correct?

BTW, Fakey, I like your approach at ensuring that everyone's character is built correctly and within the rules you laid out. Looking forward to getting started. Gonna try to control my anticipation ;)

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Steve Greer wrote:

I guess this won't get underway until tomorrow? I recall that one of the players on our teams was to be unavailable today. Is that correct?

BTW, Fakey, I like your approach at ensuring that everyone's character is built correctly and within the rules you laid out. Looking forward to getting started. Gonna try to control my anticipation ;)

I will start the battle tomorrow, with or without full PC approvals, but an unapproved PC must post fixes before taking his/her turn.

Hope I didn't come across as too lawful/anal. Just wanted to make sure the playing field is even.

FH


Fake Healer wrote:
Don Northness, Your grapple modifier should be +6.

Ehh... Fixed. I hadn't planned on ever needing it though. ;-)

Are we using the same map that Vissigoth's match used?

Which areas will each team start in?

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Logan Gibbs wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Don Northness, Your grapple modifier should be +6.

Ehh... Fixed. I hadn't planned on ever needing it though. ;-)

Are we using the same map that Vissigoth's match used?

Which areas will each team start in?

You'll see.

Liberty's Edge

Fake Healer wrote:

Garash Gnarlwood, this is what I found:

I believe that "Bitey", your animal companion should have a +4 bite attack, not +5. The only modifier to that with the advancement changes was the strength increase that I see.

Oh, I thought he would get an extra +1 BAB from being advanced 2HD (as a 3rd level animal companion), but I admit, I didnt check it. I'll change.

Fake Healer wrote:


Your consumables total to 845gp between the scrolls and alchemists fire, max gp useable toward consumables is 675gp. You need to adjust.

You didn't list your remaining money: you should have 366gp,7sp, and 9cp by my reckoning. Please list this in your equipment.

Please update and re-submit.

BTW, Good build, looks impressive.

FH

Yeah, I get lazy with equipment. I was eyeballing it rather than doing the math, not very well as it turns out. Apologies, I've adjusted now.

Thanks for your work on this, I find it tedious enough putting together a complete character sometimes (well, equipment anyway, it's my bane), let alone checking everyone elses!


Awrite, I tol Bitey not to bite so 'ard, and chucked somma my stuff, shud be good to do evil now.


Fixed my Defense. Changed armor (thanks for the tip Fakey). Bought some more potions. Should be ready to go now.

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Fake Healer wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

People cleared for the Arena so far:

Nameless with Heinrich the Bold(pending a typo fix and weight omission)
Don Northness with Logan Gibbs (Barry Gibbs' actor uncle, I assume;P)
Black Baron with Vanin Ironheart
Fatespinner with Rurin Songsmith

If your PC or You are not on this list there are some adjustments needed to your PCs profile or an explanation of some sort for my confused state;)

FH (you should be dancin', Yeah! you should be dancin', Yeah! Dammit hate when I get 70s disco stuck in my head)

Add Steve Greer with Nilgaar Nowunson to the list of people cleared for the arena.

Add Mevers with Jathali to the list of people cleared for the arena.

FH

Mothman with Garash Gnarlwood is cleared for the Arena.

Vissigoth with Spartacus is cleared for the Arena ('cept for a typo under the AC where he left the armor as "half-plate" but changed the listing in equipment and all the bonuses to breastplate.)

We will roll tomorrow morning fellows!

FH


Fixed typo. Added synergy bonus to Ride. Broke down attack bonuses.

I'll only be able to post once or twice a day. To keep you guys from having to wait for me here is my Init and first actions.

Init Roll (1d20+2=4)
My first action will be to mount my horse and drink my Bull's Stregth potion. +4 to STR for 1 min. (10 rounds). This increases my melee attack and damage rolls by 2.

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