Doesn't look to bad to start off. What level are you starting out as? I would worry more about the beginning. The later levels will iron them out when you get there based on need from the campaign. Race isn't that important because you can do any kind of personality with any race, some combos just seem more appropriate or funny. The only real thing with race is the human with its extra feat at first level, and skill points later.
For your last third level spell slot Invisibility is the one to go for.
I'd switch Summon Monster I with Unseen Servant if your going to use any critter to spring traps. Unseen servant is versitile and I had a player do that repeatedly with Summon Monster I until one Blue Dragon DM and his adventuring party became angry with him.
I'd switch Summon Monster I with Unseen Servant if your going to use any critter to spring traps. Unseen servant is versitile and I had a player do that repeatedly with Summon Monster I until one Blue Dragon DM and his adventuring party became angry with him.
Heh. I did that in Jazidrune under Cauldron. We never did figure out the keys...But we knew the doors only went off once!
I tell yah, a level 2 sorceror can cast Summon Monster 1 alot. Especially when I decided not to take Sleep and made a poitn of not taking Magic missle. Also, I was insane, with a rat familiar named Stinky. Who was. Ahhh.. Those were the days.
Then I massacred civilians in the Mob scene like 4 levels later when the Umber Hulk showed up. No one told me the fireballing the crowd was a bad idea...Needless to say, that was the end of that character.
Doesn't look to bad to start off. What level are you starting out as? I would worry more about the beginning. The later levels will iron them out when you get there based on need from the campaign. Race isn't that important because you can do any kind of personality with any race, some combos just seem more appropriate or funny. The only real thing with race is the human with its extra feat at first level, and skill points later.
Agreed. What you need to plan is the stuff you're going to have when you start the game, and then only have a very loose idea of what you want to take later on. The flow of the game will let you know what you need. Combat heavy? Take some damage dealing spells. Getting swarmed by enemies a lot? Crowd control. Paty needs more buffing? Haste and other spells are hard to beat.
Basically, just start with something smart, and then see what your strengths and weaknesses are. Whether you want to shore up said weaknesses or further augment strengths is up to you, but that should give you some pretty clear ideas of what needs to be done.
It's kind of hard to say anymore without specific campaign details (which, if you're just making a character now, you may or may not know at this time).
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Not a spell idea but here is a cool idea for a Sorcerer to multiclass:
Abjurant Chanpion. Prereqs- BAB=+5, Combat Casting, able to cast 1st level spells(at least one abjuration), must have proficiency in one martial weapon(at least). It is a 5 level PRC with full BAB progression, full spellcasting progression and in the first 2 levels has 3 special abilities that rock: Abjurant armor, extend abjuration, and swift abjuration.
Abjurant armor adds your Ab.Champ levels to mage armor spells and shield spells (if you take all 5 levels of A.C. this would mean that Mage armor=+9armor bonus and Shield=+9shield bonus.
Extended abjuration lets you cast all abjuration spells as if using Extend Spell.
Swift abjuration lets you cast abjuration spells as if quickened.
It also has a D10!!! hit die.
You may want to dip into some other full BAB class to meet the prereqs quicker.
Spells I will have to look into....
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For your last third level spell slot Invisibility is the one to go for.
I'm pretty sure invisibility is 2nd.
I'd go with Fly hands down. You don't seem to have to many movement based spells. Reverse graviy is supurb, ottolukes resilient sphere, acid fog, prismatic spray, dimension door, color spray.
The above are spels I've seen completely turn a fight around. Having a large bag of tricks and battlefield control stuff has saved my parties ass on several ocassions I'd suggest looking into those.
Ohh and don't forget that stoneskin has that pesky material component. A pain in the ass to keep track of.
I'd drop either the Summon Monster I, if the party is four or more people, or the Protection from Alignement, if someone else can cast it.
And I'd take Grease. Best spell in the book.
Seriously. I had a bard in one of my games who nearly got me to ban the spell, he used it so well.
I'd drop either the Summon Monster I, if the party is four or more people, or the Protection from Alignement, if someone else can cast it.
And I'd take Grease. Best spell in the book.
Seriously. I had a bard in one of my games who nearly got me to ban the spell, he used it so well.
Grease and Glitterdust!
Sure, Glitterdust is a low save, but it's still save vs. blindness. Blindness if a big deal! I ran Three Faces of Evil with a Bard like that...It'd be nice if I could end one fight with the bad guys still standing up or able to see.
I'd drop either the Summon Monster I, if the party is four or more people, or the Protection from Alignement, if someone else can cast it.
And I'd take Grease. Best spell in the book.
Seriously. I had a bard in one of my games who nearly got me to ban the spell, he used it so well.
Grease and Glitterdust!
Sure, Glitterdust is a low save, but it's still save vs. blindness. Blindness if a big deal! I ran Three Faces of Evil with a Bard like that...It'd be nice if I could end one fight with the bad guys still standing up or able to see.
I'm also a Glitterdust fan. Sometimes it's better to immobilize an opponent rather than just dealing hp damage, and at lower levels, Glitterdust does this really well. Also, it's great for combating invisible enemies.
COunt me on the glitterdust badwagon as well. Against anything that nees to see, it is the BEST spell. A blind enemy is dead enemy.
Looking over your spell list, I think you have a few to many damage dealing spells. If you want to play a "Blaster" Sorcerer, then fine, but I reckon that would get boring quickly. Besides, you have melee meatshields fort hat sort of stuff.
Much better to take "battlefield Control" type spells (Web, and Black Tentacles being the iconic examples). This way, you get to contribute TREMENDOUSLY to the battle by setting the enemies up, and your melee allies also get to feel like heroes as they unload fullattacks on the disabled enemies. Sounds like win/win to me.
Here is a link to a good thread on Sorcerers from the begining of the month.
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I was the one who started the effective arcane caster thread and i learned that, to make a good arcane caster, you have to be able to play in a specific way and stick to it. if your going to play a blaster then do that and stick with it. if your party doesn't have a divine caster then it would be a good idea to invest in some buffing spells like livisibility or enlarge person. dont spread yourself too thin. i'm playing a caster right now in the city of greyhawk, and the advice that these people have givin me is just great, listen to these people, they know what they're talking about.
....I had a player do that repeatedly with Summon Monster I until one Blue Dragon DM and his adventuring party became angry with him.Then I massacred civilians in the Mob scene like 4 levels later when the Umber Hulk showed up. No one told me the fireballing the crowd was a bad idea...Needless to say, that was the end of that character.
Mass murder usually spells the end for anyone.
You know Ross Byers, there are other less violent methods in handling an umber hulk. A volley or three of magic missiles, 2 or 3 orbs of fire, a few flame arrows readily come to mind. However, when did you realized that throwing a fireball was a bad idea. Was this before or after you completed the spell?
Just a reminder in case you wish to play another wizard sometime in the future.
lvl 1 Identify, Mage Armor, Magic Missile, Protection from Alignment, Summon Creature 1- i was thinking to use the little guys to spring traps.
Color spray will probably be more useful at low levels than protection from chaos/evil/good/law. Also, identify is not really a great choice for a sorcerer; a cleric with the Magic domain is a better option, since they can cast it as a 2nd level domain spell without a 100gp pearl.
The way I usually start a sorcerer is:
Sor 1: 0- dancing lights, detect magic, ray of frost, read magic; 1st- color spray and magic missile; Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot (if human); buy a Scroll of mage armor with starting money
Sor 2: 0- mage hand
Sor 3: 1st- enlarge person
Sor 4: 0- touch of fatigue; 2nd- web
Sor 5: 1st- chill touch; 2nd- spectral hand
Sor 6: 0- detect poison; 3rd- hold person; switch out color spray for shocking grasp
As a sorcerer, concentrating on disabling and general purpose spells can pay off big. Also, touch spells are generally more powerful than rays and missiles (especially with spectral hand), since you can keep making attacks until your touch attack succeeds (and a low level sorcerer will miss a significant portion of their touch attacks). A sorcerer should have one disabling spell, one damage spell, and one defensive/general purpose spell at each spell level before looking at anything else. Summon monster I-IX can be good general purpose spells, but short durations make them poor choices until middle levels.
For a straight spellcaster, Sorcerer 16/Archmage 4 (Mastery of Elements, Arcane Fire, Mastery of Counterspelling, and Mastery of Shaping; in that order) is a great build. You may also want to consider a Rogue 1/Battle Sorcerer 5/Daggerspell Mage 10/Arcane Trickster 4, considering the books available.
You know, a little while ago I realized something: If you used Summon Monster (summoning a badger), coupled with Expeditious Reatreat, it would be pretty handy. A badger can only move 10ft. per round, and a 1st level caster only gets 1 round, so he probably couldn't get through, but with Expeditious Retreat, it would work fine. And if there's a druid, make him get a badger animal companion. Then you don't even NEED Expeditious Retreat.
Just FYI.