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Arrggh, OK! I admit it! I watch Smallville.
Yeah, I know its got a lot of Teen Soap crap, but I ignore that stuff in favor of the comics stuff they do. And whiel I admit, that some of the re-imagining they've done has left a bitter taste in my mouth, I have to admit that the show's writers are very creative.
Hell, last night they had a Justice League episode with Green Arrow, Flash (Impulse), Cyborg, and Aquaman. Next episode they are having one of my favorites - Martian Manhunter.
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I can't help but watch it when it's on. It's fascinating in the way it straddles the line between being very good and very bad, and yet I can't look away. The biggest weakness is that it still operates on the old Star Trek model of plots (problem/villian introduced, problem/villian encountered, problem/villian defeated) instead of the new Alias/Lost model of plots (problem/villian introduced, problem/villian forgotten, other stuff happens, holy cow, that problem/villian really sucks.)
But still, I love all the shout outs to the comics.
Edit: And I love the opening credits, in all their overdone cheesiness.
I watch it 'cause Supernatural is on after it. :)
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I still watch it, though I feel it peaked a couple seasons back. I preferred the "when is Lex gonna go evil?" years. The underlying tension of the friendship between Lex and Clark, coupled with the fact that WE knew how it would turn out even though THEY didn't—that was good stuff.
Plus I wish they'd write out Lana already. She's always been a terrible and annoying character. I know it isn't likely to happen because the rest of the world apparently thinks Kristen Kreuk is somehow special (though I personally can't figure out why).
I have to agree that I find it annoying that we don't have any Bruce Wayne/Batman connections (or Wonder Woman so far at least) other than hearing the city of Gotham mentioned sometimes.
I also agree that Lana as a character needs to go. I'm not saying they need to kill her off, although the ideal way to do so seems to be in one of those Clark has to make a choice to save the world that leaves her dead which of course drives Lex fully into the I must destroy Clark Kent at all costs mode.
I like Chloe and Lois, but they need to do more to have Clark drift more towards being a reporter for his future career at the Daily Planet. And Lois too. And they need to get Clark some glasses so people won't immediately know he's Superman when he finally gets there. I am presuming he'll get the suit and cape in the series finale.
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Smallville is a strange show - when I flip the channel and see it's on, I am disappointed and want to flip on, but if I watch even five minutes of an episode I have to watch the whole thing. And yet when it's over I am not at all anxious for the next episode. I don't care about the ongoing stories and never think "hey, I wonder what's going to happen on Smallville this week?"
It's like it doesn't exist yet when it's on, you can't look away.
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I also agree that they have to do something with the Lana character. And although they have taken steps to push Clark in the "Lois is the only woman for me" direction, they have yet to do anything with him becoming a reporter. If I recall correctly, they did do one episode Clark put on some glasses, but nothing since.
I'm also one of those pissed that they won't bring in Bruce Wayne/Batman. It seemed to me that they tried to make the Oliver Queen character more like the Bat, but (as I am familiar with GA from the comcis) it didn't work to well. I am happy that they are brining in one of my other favorite characters though - Martian Manhunter.
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Last nights episode of Smallville was interesting. I like that almost the entire thing took place in Clark's mind and that the "realworld" timeframe was just a few seconds.
Also liked seeing the Martian Manhunter again and that they showcased him as a telepath. Very cool. I look forward to what else they do with the character.
yeah, I agree; Lana really doesnt have a place on the show anymore unless she is gonna start up her magic mojo again other than eye candy. Have been wondering for a while what her character contributes except twanging Clarks heartstrings once in a while.
I think I recently had to just admit that my thought process about the show was completely off. I started watching it thinking that it was an alternative take on how Clark got through high school, into college, and became Superman. I could deal with things not happening exactly as they had in the comics, or in the same chronological order.
But more and more I am faced with the idea that I think they are trying to (Justice episode notwithstanding), show what Clark would be like in the "real world," i.e. with Clark never really EVER becoming Superman. I mean, he has already met all of the people that he would be hiding his identity from (Perry White, Lois, Jimmy), and they know him as pretty much the same guy that he would be as Superman.
It feels like the writers have come to this conclusion, as they don't just deviate, they rocket in the opposite direction of other interpretations of the characters involved. I get the feeling that they throw things like Justice in to keep the comic geeks watching, but they are more interested in the show as a "superpowered soap opera" then as the story of Clark's life before he becomes the Man of Steel.
I'm not slamming the show, its just that it occurs to me that it is tailored now much more for the people that came to it, not looking to see the Superman mythos, but rather a teen drama with Superman flavoring. Its my hang up, not theirs. That having been said, even non-comics fans have to be getting a bit tired of the whole Clark pining after Lana thing.
From a purely superficial angle I have to say; Erica Durance is much more attractive in my book . . . call me quirky.
I'm just ticked that they gave some of the best aspects of Lois' personality to Chloe, which makes it harder to develop Lois as a character.
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From a purely superficial angle I have to say; Erica Durance is much more attractive in my book . . . call me quirky.
I'm just ticked that they gave some of the best aspects of Lois' personality to Chloe, which makes it harder to develop Lois as a character.
I won't call you quirky on that, since you're hitting the nail on the head. Erica Durance is one of the hottest chikcs on the show. And it is annoying that Chloe is sort of like a mini-Lois. I've been rooting for them to kill her off for a while now.
I personal prefer Chloe over all of them... and I don't even know the actress name. I been watching Smallville for three years now, however Lana does annoying the crap out of me. "Dawson Kyptonite" was the shows nickname a few years back... heh.
I'm not a comic fan... I was always more interested in 400-700 page books than comics (even though I love art). I read too fast, so I always found comics to be a huge moneysink that didn't pay off (5-10 minutes to read a comic and that's it? Check out the pictures?) Never really had all that big of extra money lying around anyway, so books was the way to go (or saving up for a good video game).
Anyway, as such, I never approached Smallville as a comic book fan. The only real things I know about superheroes is from the OCCASIONAL comic and all the cartoons, and normally people bash on those cartoons non-stop.
Personally, I like Smallville. I NEVER watch it when it's on though. I wait until October, when the season comes out on DVD, and just watch the whole thing straight for two days. Lana, she's just there cause she's hot, and I don't mind that at all. And Chloe's proven her reporter usefulness, and often because of that they figure out what they're supposed to figure out. And Louis... Well... She's just there because she's hot too, but really because of their inevitable relationship. The whole show is entirely a teen drama with superpowers thrown it. I never saw it as anything else anyway, and I never expected anything different. Aka, I'm not dissappointed with the show at all. It fits me just fine.
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So, last nights episode was pretty interesting. Michael Rosenbaum did a good job of directing. The whole heat-vision scene was pretty cool. I have a feeling that this season might end with the tragic death of Chloe. Then the following season will see Clark take up the reporting route as he and Lois comfort each other over the loss of Chloe.
I also think that Lana will either lose the baby (either Lex's fault or that of a meteor freak), or the baby will be born as some kind of meteor infected freak itself. If the baby is born, and is super-powered, then maybe it will pull some kind of fast growth spurt to adult size and become the villain Bizzaro in the next season.
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Chloe is a green meteorite infected person eh; hmm, and she was the coordinator the the pre JLA raid on Luther Corps project that held the flash captive. Speculation is running rampant at my house as to just who Chloe might turn out to be and yes, Lois is very hot, and I love the whole Lana "I am your past" Lois "I am your future" Clark "This is the present". very nice, am enjoying the show a whole lot, but have found that i enjoy it much more if I Tivo a few episodes and watch them marathon style back to back; much more immersion that way; sigh, my grammar and spelling is in the pits.
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OK, so last nights episode finally saw the return of Lionel the evil @$$whole. Lex promised him a favor in order to shut him up. I think he is going to ask for the baby when it is born - that it be given to him to raise. That would be very King Arthur/Merlin of Lionel, and would fit his character, since he seems to often express disappointment in how Lex turned out. Maybe he wants to try again. In the meantime, Lana will use all of her feminine wiles and take advantage of Lex's (often sick) devotion to her in order to manipulate him into killing Lionel. When Luther the elder finally asks for the baby, it will be the catalyst for Lex to kill him. Out of all this Lana will learn the truth about the baby and divorce Lex. But Clark and Lana won't end up together, because Clark will be horrified at her manipulation of Lex to kill Lionel.
Those are my predictions - you heard em here first folks.
Last night was written for crap. The wedding was crap, it should have been compelling and instead I couldn't wait until it was over. In the JLA storyline Chloe was filling in for Oracle since they wrote this season with Batman in Mindand found out that they couldn't use me (so went with GA instead). the Baby is Superboy ...sort of half LL half Kryptonian and a result of 33.1 best thing they can do it off Lana she has run her course and frankly was boring in the comic and is just as falt on Smallville.
yeah, sigh, I watch it too.
wow; Smallville is really heating up; the episode introducing Bizarro was really cool :)
wow; Smallville is really heating up; the episode introducing Bizarro was really cool :)
THe Season was SO SO, the Green Arrow stuff was good then it was way to much LANA (hate her in the show, hate her in the comic) Bizarro was NICE. I really good twist on the character
well, at least Lana is all blowed up from the car bomb and we dont have to deal with her anymore; i liked her better way back when they were doing her witch ancestor thing; i wanted them to develop that for her character. Once she had been used by all the male characters on the show there really wasnt much left for her to develop. I am still having trouble pinning down Lionel Luthers character; am surprized that he is still playing the center.
Lana isn't dead _ Wish the character was but she isn't.
She faked her own death. The Van drives by cutting off our line of sight, just before the car blows up. She hoped into the Van and hired someone to blow it up, maybe even Oliver. Odds are she's show back up either as the season starts (but not likly), or during sweeps (odds are) after Clark has "started to move on" causeing more issues for him - BLAH - Hate that character.
"I can never tell anyone cause they get hurt, just like Lana" so sick of that crap.
yeah, was saying she was dead very tounge in cheek as this is a superhero epic and the died but didnt really die thing is a motif of the genre. I dont think there is any evidence that she survived and you would have thought Lionel would have checked.
yep, Lana is in the van. Sorry thing is, I really like Chloe, and they kinda left that hanging too. I really hope she's not dead, but, they'll probably bring back Lana (blah) and our dear Chloe will be dead...again. They kinda have to bring back Lana, isn't she supposed to marry Pete Ross?
yep, Lana is in the van. Sorry thing is, I really like Chloe, and they kinda left that hanging too. I really hope she's not dead, but, they'll probably bring back Lana (blah) and our dear Chloe will be dead...again. They kinda have to bring back Lana, isn't she supposed to marry Pete Ross?
But they have totally wrote Pete out of the show and havn't mentioned him a a few seasons.
Was hoping that Lois would died and Chole would use Lois as her Pen name. Not sure what they are going to do now.
Was hoping that Lois would died and Chole would use Lois as her Pen name. Not sure what they are going to do now.
I was actually a little excited because that thought also crossed my mind, Chloe has used Lois's name before. Maybe they can still make it happen, but I don't see it in the works, there's too much forshadowing with Clark and Lois. I liked it better when I thought Chloe was the one, of course, I kinda liked Lex as the psuedo good guy too. Ahh, for the good ole days.
I thought Lana was coming back having been rebuilt as the Bionic Woman. :-)
Seriously, her relationship with Clark with the never ending lack of trust, lack of real romance, on and off again nature was like a giant anchor on the show. I hope she stays dead or goes into hiding or something.
Personally I want to see both Lois and Chloe survive. Although unless the writers majorly do a do over on the Lois character it's pretty much a given that at some point in the future she becomes the ace reporter of the Daily Planet. Given Chloe has been the super reporter all this time how do they reconcile that if she lives, other than have her go to some other city and/or news paper to work.
Clark needs more clothes. For crying out loud he's not dirt poor. He can wear different street clothes from episode to episode even if they mostly keep with that red and blue theme.
I really hope that when they decide to end the series they have him in the Superman suit once.
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lol; heckling his wardrobe; that is good hehe.
yeah, am also wondering if Chloe will manifest another power and survive; maybe they needed to get her out of the way to let Lois take over as the investigative reporter. I like Chloe in her role of administrator of the supergroups activities and doing the coordination thing.
The Green Arrow character this past season was suppose to be Batman, but they found out that they couldn't use Bruce, so we got Oliver. Chole filled in for Barbra (Oracle). Next seaon we are getting Supergirl, it was offically annouced yesterday. Not sure how I feel about that
Supergirl; that sucks; all the heroines out there and they chose a reprobate; sheesh. Dont see any storyline for Batman; he didnt do anything as a teenager but train unless he is older and he is not a metropolis guy or a smallville guy so would be a hard sale. Guess he was an original JLA member though. They should have done Wonder Woman.
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Supergirl; that sucks; all the heroines out there and they chose a reprobate; sheesh. Dont see any storyline for Batman; he didnt do anything as a teenager but train unless he is older and he is not a metropolis guy or a smallville guy so would be a hard sale. Guess he was an original JLA member though. They should have done Wonder Woman.
They can't use Batman.
Watched it tonite....go Bizarro!!!
Sorry for responding to such an old thread, but I love Smallville!
I thought Bizarro and Brainiac were interesting re-interpretations...
I do wish they would stress the journalism aspect for Clark more, and what ever happened to his college studies? One bad class with Brainiac, and no more college?
Me, I can't wait for the next episode, which promises to complete Lex's transformation into the evil mastermind we all know and love.
It looks good by the previews. Is this really the end of Lionel? We knew he had to go sooner or later. Personally, I always thought he would stay evil, and Superman would have something to do with his death -- accidentally, of course. But then, they did that with the Green Goblin in Spiderman, didn't they?
And speaking of previews, I was really disappointed by 'Veritas' -- I seem to remember that the movie would show him flying and finally suited up, but I certainly wanted to see him fly, as the previews seemed to promise!
And why doesn't Chloe use her power more? Did I miss something?
OK, saw most of "Descent" -- and saw enough of the back episodes to figure out why Chloe doesn't use her power more often
So how does Lex not immediately recognize that Clark is Superman, since they duel so often? And now he knows that "The Traveller" came to Earth on the same day the Kents found Clark? Some twisted code of honor prevents him from acting on this??
Still, I like Clark taking on more of the Superman persona!
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I still watch it, though I feel it peaked a couple seasons back. I preferred the "when is Lex gonna go evil?" years. The underlying tension of the friendship between Lex and Clark, coupled with the fact that WE knew how it would turn out even though THEY didn't—that was good stuff.
Plus I wish they'd write out Lana already. She's always been a terrible and annoying character. I know it isn't likely to happen because the rest of the world apparently thinks Kristen Kreuk is somehow special (though I personally can't figure out why).
I agree. In fact, I'd argue the show hit the high note when we all thought Lana was killed in that auto accident.
I agree. In fact, I'd argue the show hit the high note when we all thought Lana was killed in that auto accident.I still watch it, though I feel it peaked a couple seasons back. I preferred the "when is Lex gonna go evil?" years. The underlying tension of the friendship between Lex and Clark, coupled with the fact that WE knew how it would turn out even though THEY didn't—that was good stuff.
Plus I wish they'd write out Lana already. She's always been a terrible and annoying character. I know it isn't likely to happen because the rest of the world apparently thinks Kristen Kreuk is somehow special (though I personally can't figure out why).
Amen brothers. I actually quite watching in the middle of last season, largely because I just couldn't stand Lana any more.