I like the Iconic characters that keep appearing in the art in Dungeon. I think they first made an appearance on the cover of issue #144. A secondary group has also appeared. I think the first group included a Paladin, a Monk/ Sorcerer?, Druid/ Ranger with a cougar, (my fave) a Half Elven Fighter/ Rogue. The next group includes a female Cleric with wicked mace, Tiefling Barbarian, a Drow Bard, and the Paladin from the first group. Of course I could be WAY off on the classes.
Has PAIZO/ Dungeon ever mentioned who they are/ what classes & Levels they have/ and maybe a little fiction about them? I think they might make great NPCs.
The 'New" Tordek, Lidda, and Jozan?
IIRC, the female cleric with the wicked mace is Tyralandi Scrimm (played by James Jacobs), from Erik Mona's Age of Worms campaign. Check out this thread and this thread in the Campaign Journals section.
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The first group debuted in issue #114, and included a human paladin, a half-elf rogue, a human ranger, and a human sorcerer.
The second group debuted in issue #124, and included a human cleric, a tiefling fighter, and a drow bard.
The latest group debuted in issue #139, and included a human monk, an elf druid, a dwarf barbarian, and a human wizard.
We came up with these iconics for 2 reasons. FIRST: It's easier to tell an artist who's not familiar with the D&D rules to "paint this guy" rather than to say "paint a sorcerer, but remember he shouldn't wear armor and blah blah blah...". SECOND: By using iconics, we can give the magazine a personality.
For the most part, the iconics don't have names or levels or histories. I took the image of the cleric as a basis for my character in the Age of Worms campaign that Erik's running here at the office every other week, and as a result everyone here's taken to calling her Tyralandi after my character. Wes did the same with the paladin, and althoguh he died in the first adventrue and replaced the character with a different one, we still call the paladin Abelard.
You might have a good contest here for Dungeon fans!
Create a character based upon these iconics.
You could use the cleric as an example and post her stats.
What would rock is minis based on these guys.
What would rock is minis based on these guys.I'm not convinced people would buy them. The market for metal miniatures right now is _terrible_.
--Erik
I would buy them, but I realize that I'm probably in the minority. And that kind of stinks, because I feel like these characters have better designs than just about any miniatures currently being sold.
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What would rock is minis based on these guys.I'm not convinced people would buy them. The market for metal miniatures right now is _terrible_.
--Erik
I wouldn't buy the metal......but prepainted plastic ones I would buy in a heartbeat. I would also like to add that I would love to see a line of Dungeon exclusive creatures (new or revisited creatures that show up in Dungeon/Dragon) in the prepainted plastic figures. A set per year for the creatures and a set per year of the Iconics. I would pay well for these.
FH (36 and lots of disposable income(from the wifey:a kept man))
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The set-up cost for pre-painted plastic miniatures is something like $10,000. There is almost no way (short of the way WotC's doing it ) to make a profit against that kind of initial investment. This is why you don't see a lot of pre-painted plastic from companies smaller than Wizards or Topps.
Unfortunately (for the time being), Paizo is not as large as Wizards of the Coast.
In any event such miniatures would have to be approved by WotC (since they own the characters), and they are not likely to approve products they view as competing with their own releases.
--Erik Mona
I'm not convinced people would buy them. The market for metal miniatures right now is _terrible_.
That is sad to hear. I'd thought things weren't rosy; some of the future Compleat Encounters dissapeared from the Paizo Store ... coincidence? Prefer metal figures over plastics anyday - just being forced to buy plastics to cover missing monsters in my collection.
Apologies for the digression.
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The set-up cost for pre-painted plastic miniatures is something like $10,000. There is almost no way (short of the way WotC's doing it ) to make a profit against that kind of initial investment. This is why you don't see a lot of pre-painted plastic from companies smaller than Wizards or Topps.
Unfortunately (for the time being), Paizo is not as large as Wizards of the Coast.
In any event such miniatures would have to be approved by WotC (since they own the characters), and they are not likely to approve products they view as competing with their own releases.
--Erik Mona
Is the 10,000 a one time thing or does each set take a new investment? If it is a one time thing then maybe you could get Wizards to have them produced in exchange for a cut of the profit.
If not I would buy metal ones but only if they come prepainted to match the Iconics. And I don't mind paying for it!FH
Okay so maybe minis (metal or plastic) are pipe dream.
But how about names/ stats/ backgrounds on these guys? That is in the realm of possible. You could even include them in an issue of Dungeon like the old modules of the 80's. Might be fun.
I didn't even realize there was a third set! You should let us know when you do things like that.
And for the record, I like the first set best!
I like a combo of all of them.
The first set is very combat focused.
The second group is a unique party (Drow Bard, very cool!)
The third group seems well blanced.
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The set-up cost for pre-painted plastic miniatures is something like $10,000. There is almost no way (short of the way WotC's doing it ) to make a profit against that kind of initial investment.
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In any event such miniatures would have to be approved by WotC (since they own the characters), and they are not likely to approve products they view as competing with their own releases.
What about WotC releasing minis for these characters in the DDM line?
What ever the case, those are some cool icons! You guys did a great job and should feature them somewhere, somehow.
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Were it up to us, they'd be used on everything, including lunchboxes.
Obviously, it is not up to us. The relationship with Wizards is great and it allows us to do all kinds of things we couldn't ordinarily do, but it is not without its limits and unfortunate aspects. This is one of them.
For another, see "Age of Worms, hardcover".
--Erik