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Anyone read Fantastic Four?
yep; they have moved; the king figured Latveria will give the vikings something to do other than fight each other. Loki convinced him its was a good idea. This is supposedly the new Loki; but seems like the old Loki to me; he is a master of magics among gods as well as downright evil and seems on good terms with the Dr. Loki has been known to work with Sutur and Mephisto and lots of other evil magical entities; I think the only one he fears is Hel so Loki probably knows the situation with the Dr.
Baldar is King of Asgard now
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yep; they have moved; the king figured Latveria will give the vikings something to do other than fight each other. Loki convinced him its was a good idea. This is supposedly the new Loki; but seems like the old Loki to me; he is a master of magics among gods as well as downright evil and seems on good terms with the Dr. Loki has been known to work with Sutur and Mephisto and lots of other evil magical entities; I think the only one he fears is Hel so Loki probably knows the situation with the Dr.
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Yeah I understand all that and yeah I'm sure Loki would be fine. What I'm talking about is a more recent development in Fantastic Four that shows an incompatibility with FF's and Thor's storylines. I'll be surprised if it gets rectified at all since if Wolverine can be in 3-4 titles at the same time then I guess storylines like these can be overlooked rather than overlap too.
hmm; I guess the people at Marvel need to post their story boards in the coffee room so other writers know whats going on; if your right thier is little excuse for that kind of snafu.
Yeah I understand all that and yeah I'm sure Loki would be fine. What I'm talking about is a more recent development in Fantastic Four that shows an incompatibility with FF's and Thor's storylines. I'll be surprised if it gets rectified at all since if Wolverine can be in 3-4 titles at the same time then I guess storylines like these can be overlooked rather than overlap too.yep; they have moved; the king figured Latveria will give the vikings something to do other than fight each other. Loki convinced him its was a good idea. This is supposedly the new Loki; but seems like the old Loki to me; he is a master of magics among gods as well as downright evil and seems on good terms with the Dr. Loki has been known to work with Sutur and Mephisto and lots of other evil magical entities; I think the only one he fears is Hel so Loki probably knows the situation with the Dr.
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Marvel Entertainment doesn't care about continuity or integrity of story in their comics. All they care about is if people are giving them money. The movies and everything tied to them are their main concern these days.
Well, from what I hear; they were bankrupt until they made Spiderman and that movie alone got them out of dept and back in business so I suppose how I could see why they are all into movies; I just have no idea why they have messed with stories that they know worked.
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And at last Thor has a new team. A couple of guys I never heard of...
http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/08/18/kieron-gillen-to-take-over-thor/
Mind you this is good because A) It means they will likely get their work in on time and B) Marvel dropped Thor back to 2.99 which means having Strazinski on apparently was costing us an extra buck.
So what's new in Thor's life; sheesh; wish the comics came out more regular; been getting the Tales of Asgard thing; havent read them; am really into the story; pretty devious thinking on Baldar part.
The annual come out just recently, Valegrim. Thor's coping with the fact he killed his grandfather and is having confidence issues. Next issue comes out this week, continuing the problems of Baldur in Latveria and Thor and company in the world at large.
Sounds like time to drop by the comic shop around Friday then :) thanks
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Sounds like a time to drop this title actually.
I am really, really disappointed with the Annual. Set? as in gods of Egypt Set????? What? and he needs the help of some douchy-priest guy (i.e. a mortal dude) to perform divinations for him? WTF?!?!?
This story is going off the rails. I'm officially dumping Thor. A good thing can never truly last forever I'm afraid. The last year and a half has been good, with the rebirth of Thor and all... but the new Doc Strange downgrade and this egyptian hickerie-doo is really pissing me off. They must have switched the writing team or something, 'cause it now reeks!
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wow; that is really saying something.
I just read them; i didnt think them so bad after all; Marvel has all those other pantheons and the only other one we hear much about is the Greek stuff as Thor and Heraclese battled each other and became friends and fellow Avengers; i dont remember any other Thor vs the Eyptian pantheon (the evil guys) in the past, but they seem to have a grievance for old wounds.
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I just read them; i didnt think them so bad after all; Marvel has all those other pantheons and the only other one we hear much about is the Greek stuff as Thor and Heraclese battled each other and became friends and fellow Avengers; i dont remember any other Thor vs the Eyptian pantheon (the evil guys) in the past, but they seem to have a grievance for old wounds.
Thor fought Set/Seth in the Atlantis attacks storyline, and Thunderstrike thwarted his plans using the Thunderstrike mace and the Blood axe together. (Smokin!)
Those are both off the top of my head. I think the dark gods may have attacked the Egyptian pantheon pretending to be Asgardians, but not sure.
kk; good to know; thanks for the info.
Looks like the prequel to Siege comes out this month and then we start a new Siege run where Norman Osborn attacks Asgard; wonder what Thor is gonna do; am pretty jazzed about the new story line. Called my comic book store today and put in my order for it.
Anyone else think Dr. Doom seems a little more ghoulish than usual in Thor?
Anyone else think Dr. Doom seems a little more ghoulish than usual in Thor?
Maybe a little. Doom trying to become immortal isn't all that surprising, though I can't recall him ever making an effort before. The fact that he's animating Asgardians is a bit...strange. Personally, I wonder what massive weapon he has handy for dealing with Thor. The Destroyer comes to mind.
Mostly, I want to see Thor smite doom through his own castle;)
Anyone else think Dr. Doom seems a little more ghoulish than usual in Thor?Maybe a little. Doom trying to become immortal isn't all that surprising, though I can't recall him ever making an effort before. The fact that he's animating Asgardians is a bit...strange. Personally, I wonder what massive weapon he has handy for dealing with Thor. The Destroyer comes to mind.
Mostly, I want to see Thor smite doom through his own castle;)
I think that was the Destroyer that was animated by the lightning that took out the doombot. We'll find out next month.
I think that was the Destroyer that was animated by the lightning that took out the doombot. We'll find out next month.
That's what I think as well. Doom might need to rethink his plans if he wants to use that thing. While he can hide in it, it likes to go ballistic and smash everything. And if he winds it up to send at Thor, there's going to be one rather large crater where Latveria sits when that fight breaks out.
That's what I think as well. Doom might need to rethink his plans if he wants to use that thing. While he can hide in it, it likes to go ballistic and smash everything. And if he winds it up to send at Thor, there's going to be one rather large crater where Latveria sits when that fight breaks out.
I think that was the Destroyer that was animated by the lightning that took out the doombot. We'll find out next month.
Come on, he's Dr. Doom. He's got an angle. ;-)
Doom rocks for sure; my thought is that this is another Doombot; Doom would not want to face Thor one on one; just look at what happened to Ironman and his long walk home; Ironman beat Doom in Ironwars so we know that his only edge in this fight is his sorcery and he is probably a lot smarter than Thor.
as for attempts at being immortal; Doom pulled it off for a bit in the old Secret Wars comics after he stole Galactus' energy or was it part of the Beyonder; so he has a bit of experience in this. I think this may be a succession of; will the Real Doctor Doom please come forward; with all his clones and stuff; hard to say if you ever get the real deal and Doom having won Sorceror Supreme of earth <but not wanting the job; just having the skill and power> is a big feather in his cap in this fight; nobody is crafty and full of guile and sheer toughness and determination like old Dr. Doom.
But, that said; if he tries to stand toe to toe with Thor; well, it should end up a lot like the Ironman fight with lots of Dooms bits of armor all over the place. Seems the comic writers have also forgotten a lot of Thor's powers; in old Thor comics; he used to fairly regularly send people to alternate dimensions to get them out of the way and stop them from mucking up Midgard; they would ask him; where do they go? Thor would respond; I dont know; but they go and those willing can find their way back given time. Combine that with the fact that Thor can control the entire globes weather; seas and magnetic feild; well; he is just plain double tough.
I am really enjoying the art as well; hope the story stays good and true to all characters.
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I really didn't like the Set thing in the Annual, and I'm not so fond of the Doc Strange / Hammer magic item creation issue... with that said, the title has managed to move an interesting plot along.
Not so fond of that Billy kid and his girlfriend dying though... I thought they added a really cool element to Asgard on Earth... found that they "humanized" the Asgardians a lot, etc.
The "one" moment I keep remembering in the whole series is that mustachoied Asgard dude carrying a boar on his back, coming back from a hunt. I thought that was a wicked image.
All I know is I've got a hundred or so late 80's early 90's Thor comics I can't find a home for.
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All I know is I've got a hundred or so late 80's early 90's Thor comics I can't find a home for.
LOL! I had about four thousand dollars' worth of comics I just let go for $250 six months ago, so I feel your pain brother. For me, space was becoming an issue. That, and the fact that comics can no longer be considered collectibles IMO (in the words of my friendly local comic bookstore owner, "Comics are now like magazines. Read 'em and toss 'em. Do you stockpile your wife's stash of toilet-side People magazines?")
I was surprised that was coming out of the mouth of a comic bookstore owner. He's one such owner that does not buy used comics from his customers no matter what, mainly because I think that he's figured out that there's tons of money to be made with Pokemon/Magic/etc. card games and other kids stuff, but that the margin on comics is slim...
Wow; that so rocks so much; your a lucky guy.
All I know is I've got a hundred or so late 80's early 90's Thor comics I can't find a home for.
Thanks for that side bit info LaserX; nice to have the background.
yeah; I too was hoping Bill would mature in the comic for a good while; I dont think Kelda Stormrider is gone for good; hopeing Bill isnt either and I am wondering what Kelda's connection to Thor might be as he is God of Storms and she is a storm mistress....hmm. and what about Bill's spear or Kelda's spear for that matter; viking weapons have names and properties and destinies...hmmm.
Ok; now i am reading Siege, the Cabal; as it is a prelude of things to come; looks like a big multicomic thing is breaking out; so about Loki; in Siege he is a guy; in the Thor comics he was returned as a girl; so what the heck; I am confused and Cabal doesnt mention that Asgard moved and is still in OK so the timeline is a little shakey.
ok; on another note; lot of stuff I dont know; who is the Hood? what is his background.
and what is the deal with that group and Namor and Emma Frost left it; hmm; this is pretty thick stew. The taskmaster has been one of my favorites for years; photoreflective reflexes; that is cool; knows All about Captain America and Daredevil and a few others complete fighting styles; teach villians how to fight them; hehe
yeah; I too was hoping Bill would mature in the comic for a good while; I dont think Kelda Stormrider is gone for good; hopeing Bill isnt either and I am wondering what Kelda's connection to Thor might be as he is God of Storms and she is a storm mistress....hmm. and what about Bill's spear or Kelda's spear for that matter; viking weapons have names and properties and destinies...hmmm.
I agree on this point, but once the cycle of Ragnarok ended, the Asgardians were free to find their own destiny. You'll recall Baldur was quite upset when one of them died recently, as the Asgardians know they aren't coming back.
Ok; now i am reading Siege, the Cabal; as it is a prelude of things to come; looks like a big multicomic thing is breaking out; so about Loki; in Siege he is a guy; in the Thor comics he was returned as a girl; so what the heck; I am confused and Cabal doesnt mention that Asgard moved and is still in OK so the timeline is a little shakey.
You'll recall Loki was using Sif's form. Sif is back, so it's likely he can't do that anymore or must use other means to do so. Loki also used his own form briefly in order to set Asgardian history in motion. In terms of timeline, depending on when the events in Siege occur, a male Loki is fine. He's a male in the recent issue of Thor, after all. Otherwise, you get used to timelines seeming shaky in Marvel comics. I think it's good so far though.
ok; on another note; lot of stuff I dont know; who is the Hood? what is his background.
The Hood is a small time criminal/acquaintance of Spider-man IIRC who found a cloak that tied him to Dormammu, Master of the Dread Dimension (or is it the Dark Dimension, I don't ever keep those straight). The cloak got exorcised in New Avengers by Dr. Strange and Brother Voodoo, but Loki then gave the Hood (real name: Parker Robins I think) the Norn Stones, so now his power comes from another source. He's not a nice guy but he's protective of those he cares about, such as his family and Madame Masque.
and what is the deal with that group and Namor and Emma Frost left it; hmm; this is pretty thick stew. The taskmaster has been one of my favorites for years; photoreflective reflexes; that is cool; knows All about Captain America and Daredevil and a few others complete fighting styles; teach villians how to fight them; hehe
Osborn, upon attaining his lofty position, organized Dr. Doom, Emma, Namor, Loki, and the Hood and more or less said 'we're all bad guys, the heroes are a mess, it's time to enjoy the world'. Emma was a plant, as she's only really worried about the mutants, so she seemed to go along with things. Namor has the hots for her and is an ally to Doom (he doesn't really trust Doom, but as a fellow monarch Namor can respect Doom and they've cooperated in the past; Doom helped Namor when Atlantis fell).
Valegrim, I strongly advise finding the relevant Wikipedia entries for the Cabal, Dark Reign, and whatnot in order to get an idea what's going on. This has been brewing since the Skrull Invasion ended; they're promoting the Siege as an event 7 years in the making (back to the end of the Avengers series). We can't get you caught up on everything in one shot my friend!
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Osborn, upon attaining his lofty position, organized Dr. Doom, Emma, Namor, Loki, and the Hood and more or less said 'we're all bad guys, the heroes are a mess, it's time to enjoy the world'. Emma was a plant, as she's only really worried about the mutants, so she seemed to go along with things. Namor has the hots for her and is an ally to Doom (he doesn't really trust Doom, but as a fellow monarch Namor can respect Doom and they've cooperated in the past; Doom helped Namor when Atlantis fell).
Namor has a thing for blondes doesn't he...
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Osborn, upon attaining his lofty position, organized Dr. Doom, Emma, Namor, Loki, and the Hood and more or less said 'we're all bad guys, the heroes are a mess, it's time to enjoy the world'. Emma was a plant, as she's only really worried about the mutants, so she seemed to go along with things. Namor has the hots for her and is an ally to Doom (he doesn't really trust Doom, but as a fellow monarch Namor can respect Doom and they've cooperated in the past; Doom helped Namor when Atlantis fell).Namor has a thing for blondes doesn't he...
Namor has a thing for any woman standing in front of him, mutant or not, alien or earthborn... :P
I'm still trying to figure out why Thor hasn't 'continued the discussion' with Stark, like he promised to do. And why Namor didn't crush Osborn when he sent that nasty critter, AKA Namors Ex, after him. The guy isn't known for his patience and sublty after all.
Thor's been busy rounding up the Asgardians and getting exiled, and now has to open up Doom like a sardine can. Though he is helping get Tony on his feet again over in Iron Man. Maybe he's just waiting to have that discussion for a time when the world hasn't gone nuts (i.e. Osborn in charge) and knows he needs Tony alive to fix things and to actually have that discussion.
As for Namor, I imagine he'll get to it eventually. While you're right, he's as patient as a 4-yr-old with ADHD, he occasionally bides his time. That, and the X-men have kept him busy.
Besides, it's going to be Steve Rogers, Stark, and Thor who fix things. Can't have the Cabal squashing themselves after all; it'd be bad for the superhero image.
Thanks so much for all the updated info; so what is Henry Pym and Janet (Wasp) doing; when Don Blake
whew; mind is a racing.
Thanks so much for all the updated info; so what is Henry Pym and Janet (Wasp) doing; when Don Blake ** spoiler omitted ** so; if the idea is that Thor; Rogers; Stark is gonna clean up things and then I wonder about Henry and Janet cause other than Thor; right there is the team of the first six issues of Avengers in the way back machine.
whew; mind is a racing.
No chance of getting all of the original crew together. You also forgot about the Hulk, but I think the Fall of the Hulks storyline is going to keep the gamma-irradiated crew busy while Siege is going on.
Wow; that so rocks so much; your a lucky guy.
All I know is I've got a hundred or so late 80's early 90's Thor comics I can't find a home for.
Make me a reasonable offer and you can be lucky too! :)
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I'm still trying to figure out why Thor hasn't 'continued the discussion' with Stark, like he promised to do. And why Namor didn't crush Osborn when he sent that nasty critter, AKA Namors Ex, after him. The guy isn't known for his patience and sublty after all.Thor's been busy rounding up the Asgardians and getting exiled, and now has to open up Doom like a sardine can. Though he is helping get Tony on his feet again over in Iron Man. Maybe he's just waiting to have that discussion for a time when the world hasn't gone nuts (i.e. Osborn in charge) and knows he needs Tony alive to fix things and to actually have that discussion.
As for Namor, I imagine he'll get to it eventually. While you're right, he's as patient as a 4-yr-old with ADHD, he occasionally bides his time. That, and the X-men have kept him busy.
Besides, it's going to be Steve Rogers, Stark, and Thor who fix things. Can't have the Cabal squashing themselves after all; it'd be bad for the superhero image.
Lathiira: God your avatar is hot!
Anyways... I've been keeping up pretty good with Marvel for the last few years, but I dropped the ball on the Captain America comic after Steve Rogers was killed at the end of Civil War (and I've been told I've made a mistake, that the Steve Rogers-less Cap America comic is awesome... :P so I'm pissed I didn't buy it! :P)
So please, pretty please... you talk of Steve Rogers as if he is alive now... :) if that is the case, can you do me a nice little update on that one? :)
A couple of things. Loki isn't a chick anymore. Sif got her form back. Loki started appearing as a guy in other comics more or less about the same time as that happened in Thor.
Asgard is still floating in the midwest US. It was the Asgardians who moved, not Asgard.
As stated, Thor has more important things to do right now than discuss Stark's indiscretions with him.
The biggest issue that I have with Bucky as Cap is, they gave him a gimp mask.
So please, pretty please... you talk of Steve Rogers as if he is alive now... :) if that is the case, can you do me a nice little update on that one? :)
"Now" isn't exactly the appropriate term... apparantly the good Captain has become rather "unstuck" in time... Kurt Vonnegut style, due to a Skull plot which went kind of awry.
Thing I'm majorly following up these days is the Blackest Night saga in DC.... best Green Lantern story series ever.
What's funny is, they haven't actually resolved the mini-series that brings Steve back, but they have him popping up all over the place as Cap again.
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What's funny is, they haven't actually resolved the mini-series that brings Steve back, but they have him popping up all over the place as Cap again.
So please, pretty please... you talk of Steve Rogers as if he is alive now... :) if that is the case, can you do me a nice little update on that one? :)
"Now" isn't exactly the appropriate term... apparantly the good Captain has become rather "unstuck" in time... Kurt Vonnegut style, due to a Skull plot which went kind of awry.
Thing I'm majorly following up these days is the Blackest Night saga in DC.... best Green Lantern story series ever.
What has happened in the Cap comeback mini-series so far? How come he's not dead?
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My problem with Bucky-as-Cap is he should have stayed dead.
Blackest Night is looking interesting. My concern there is the body count. We've kind of been told that Aquaman's not going to stay dead, "Aquaman's story continues in Blackest Night."
Oh and ugh, Superboy prime getting redemption? Pfeh.
Somewhat on topic. As much as I personally enjoyed Eric Materson/Thunderstrike I'm glad that he's staying dead. (I actually hunted down a Thunderstrike Heroclix, and was happy to see they got the mace right).
Anyways... I've been keeping up pretty good with Marvel for the last few years, but I dropped the ball on the Captain America comic after Steve Rogers was killed at the end of Civil War (and I've been told I've made a mistake, that the Steve Rogers-less Cap America comic is awesome... :P so I'm pissed I didn't buy it! :P)So please, pretty please... you talk of Steve Rogers as if he is alive now... :) if that is the case, can you do me a nice little update on that one? :)
I think this week we'll see the return of Steve Rogers in Captain America. We've already seen him in Iron Man and in the New Avengers Annual. But we're lacking the full details since I can't quite figure out what has been going on over in his comic.
And yes, to my surprise, Bucky as Cap has been very well done.
I'm inclined to agree that Bucky should have stayed dead. Marvel has kind of lost its mind with bringing people back, like the guy who was the 1950s Cap. He was killed in a story back in 1978 (I believe). Why would they bring him back?
DC is even worse. Psimon? They brought back Psimon? Really? And Barry Allen and Prof. Zoom is just to much. Almost makes me want to just give up on DC entirely.
Of course, if their characters weren't stuck in time, perhaps they wouldn't feel the need to dig up so many dead folk.
I'm inclined to agree that Bucky should have stayed dead. Marvel has kind of lost its mind with bringing people back, like the guy who was the 1950s Cap. He was killed in a story back in 1978 (I believe). Why would they bring him back?
DC is even worse. Psimon? They brought back Psimon? Really? And Barry Allen and Prof. Zoom is just to much. Almost makes me want to just give up on DC entirely.
Of course, if their characters weren't stuck in time, perhaps they wouldn't feel the need to dig up so many dead folk.
Certain characters who have died should stay dead because returning them to the land of the living detracts from the epic story of their lives. In Marvel, Captain Marvel was one such character who should have stayed dead. His death had meaning. In DC, Barry Allen was one such character. Oh wait, he's back now. I also wasn't happy when Hal Jordan came back, but he's at least been passable. And of course, I wanted Thor back;)
I will say that when it looked like Captain Marvel had returned from the dead, I was pleased to find that it was actually a Skrull. You know, that Skrull invasion story could have been really something. Instead, they turned it into a steaming pile of poo.
If you haven't read the new Thor yet, go do it. Right now. Now, I say! More exciting than WWE Smackdown.
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Certain characters who have died should stay dead because returning them to the land of the living detracts from the epic story of their lives. In Marvel, Captain Marvel was one such character who should have stayed dead. His death had meaning. In DC, Barry Allen was one such character. Oh wait, he's back now. I also wasn't happy when Hal Jordan came back, but he's at least been passable. And of course, I wanted Thor back;)
I really felt this way when Jean Grey/Phoenix was killed, and then - no, it wasn't the REAL Jean Grey all along! I thought that really cheapened the storyline of her death and I was quite angry, even though I love her.