FR equivalent to Alhaster: Starmantle or Mintarn?


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I noticed in Eric Boyd's conversion notes for "A Gathering of Winds" (online supplment for issue # 129), the opening line states that "conversion notes for Mintarn (Alhaster and Redhand)...have already been mentioned in conversion sidebars for earlier adventures".

In the "Age of Worms Overload" download, Starmantle is identified as the Realms equivalent to Alhaster. Was this switched to Mintarn at some later point that I missed, or is this reference I mentioned above the first we've heard of it?

I kind of prefer Mintarn, since Starmantle is so far removed from Daggerford/Diamond Lake and Waterdeep/the Free City. What do other folks think?


I beleive that Eric said he may end up switching "Alhaster" to Mintarn, because at the time he started writing up the conversion notes, he wasn't aware of how geographically close Alhaster was to Diamond Lake.


I just think Mintarn fits better too, and in the end you will get more plot hooks there after the Path is over.

I have been running the AoW in the FR, with Diamond Lake in the hills north of Ahnkapur. Ahnkapur as the free city (I just didn't get a Waterdeep feel out of Belt of Champions, Greyhawk city is too different), and the 'great rift' as the inside of the Arn Rock.

Did they aleady tell us what kind of Giants to expect in the next installment?

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Davelozzi wrote:

I noticed in Eric Boyd's conversion notes for "A Gathering of Winds" (online supplment for issue # 129), the opening line states that "conversion notes for Mintarn (Alhaster and Redhand)...have already been mentioned in conversion sidebars for earlier adventures".

In the "Age of Worms Overload" download, Starmantle is identified as the Realms equivalent to Alhaster. Was this switched to Mintarn at some later point that I missed, or is this reference I mentioned above the first we've heard of it?

I kind of prefer Mintarn, since Starmantle is so far removed from Daggerford/Diamond Lake and Waterdeep/the Free City. What do other folks think?

Sorry, my default language for that section is, in this case, confusing. (I suppose the language will make sense later when the Overload is updated to match how the series actually turned out.)

This is the first time I've mentioned the change in my conversion notes, other than a post to the message boards last week that garnered no feedback.

My biggest problem with Starmantle as well was how far removed it was from Daggerford / Waterdeep / Longsaddle. I think Mintarn works much better. The only real weakness in this conversion is that it is an island, and therefore doesn't border other bandit kingdoms (which isn't much of a weakness, IMO).

--Eric


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Cool, thanks for chiming in. As I mentioned above, I think you made the right choice in switching it.


hey, I'm a bit of a newbie so this may be a dumb question but . . . where is Mintarn? There's no reference to it that I can find in the FRCS.


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Yes, it does not have an entry in the 3rd edition FRCS, but it's shown on the map. It's an island in the troanfle between Bladur's Gate, Waterdeep, and the Moonshaes.

If my memory serves me correctly, in earlier editions it was described as a shipbuilding center, possibly under the thumb of Waterdeep. Anyhow, it was never heavily developed and could serve as Alhaster quite easily.

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Davelozzi wrote:

Yes, it does not have an entry in the 3rd edition FRCS, but it's shown on the map. It's an island in the triangle between Bladur's Gate, Waterdeep, and the Moonshaes.

If my memory serves me correctly, in earlier editions it was described as a shipbuilding center, possibly under the thumb of Waterdeep.

I think you're thinking of Orlumbor.

Davelozzi wrote:
Anyhow, it was never heavily developed and could serve as Alhaster quite easily.

Yep. Moreover, in my conversion notes for the Alhaster adventure, I repeat most of the known information about Mintarn anway. The most information appeared in the FRCS [1e], second most in FRCS [2e], and a little bit in Chapter 7 of the novel "Passage to Dawn".

--Eric

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Here's a question:

Why must Alhaster be so close to Diamond Lake? Given the epic nature of event leading up to this, and the size of the threat, why not spread out the plot points across the Realms? To this end, this is where I stand thus far:

1. Diamond Lake = Daggerford
2. Free City = Waterdeep
3. Magetown = Candlekeep (or nearabouts) - Campaign hasn't reached this point yet.
4. Spire of Long Shadows = Somewhere in Chult
5. Alhaster = Bay of Pirates
6. Tilagos = Somewhere in the Lake of Steam.

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