in your opinion does keen and improved critical stack.
some people say it does and others dont.
i would like to hear others opinions as personally i think it is too powerful if it does!
in your opinion does keen and improved critical stack.
some people say it does and others dont.
i would like to hear others opinions as personally i think it is too powerful if it does!
I think the DMG specifically states that keen does not stack with any other such effects, including the Improved Critical feat (but I could be wrong, as I don't have it on me now).
Later,
Jack
In 3.5 they specifically do not stack.
IMPROVED CRITICAL [GENERAL]
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This effect doesn’t stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon.
Keen: ... This benefit doesn’t stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon (such as the keen edge spell or the Improved Critical feat).
Now, if you're still playing 3.0 then they stack just fine. In addition, I've seen plenty of people who houserule that they stack in 3.5 - but it is just that, a houserule.
i didn't think they stacked but i wanted it in writing so that people in our group saw that others agreed
Way of the Ninja has a feat that specificly states it stacks with improved critical or keen. While the Rokugan sourcebooks are 3.0, the author of this feat seemed to want to make the point clear. You might look at the feat as an option...
I compromised and allow the effects to stack after the PC reaches 10th level. I figure that by the time you've lived to reach 10th level, you're going to hit what you're aiming at.
If I'm totally way off base here forgive me. I'm runnin off memory, no books at present. Improved critical and keen do stack. But after the first double its not double again. IE a longsword w/improved critical would go from 19-20 to 18-20. Then if you follow the verbatem rules when you added keen it would go to 15-20 (six numbers, doubled from three). But the either the DMG or the PHB (forget which) states that the base threat is added together istead of multipied. So that longsword with imp. crit and keen would be 17-20 (one for 19-20, one for keen and 1 for imp crit). Hope I've helped. Personally I like the scimitar with imp crit and keen: threat range of 12-20 (3 for 18-20, 3 for imp crit and 3 for keen).
A bit from my Hoarde
Quoting from the SRD
"Multiple effects that increase a weapon’s threat range (such as the keen edge spell and the Improved Critical feat) don’t stack. You can’t cast this spell on a natural weapon, such as a claw."
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in your opinion does keen and improved critical stack.
some people say it does and others dont.
i would like to hear others opinions as personally i think it is too powerful if it does!
Here's an article by Sean K. Reynolds about Keen and Improved Critical stacking
http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/rants/keenimprovedcritstacking.html
It includes a comparison of the rapier and the longsword too!
In 3.0 the Improved Critical feat and the keen weapon quality stacked. In 3.5 They don't stack. That's the official ruling for 3.5, but DMs are free to break or manipulate the rules as they see fit. Before you decide to ignore the 3.5 ruling though, ask yourself why the designers decided to change it? Too many people disagree with the new rules without thinking about why they've been changed in the first place.