The fact that the Dungeon boards have so many more posts than the Dragon boards baffles me. It would seem to me that Dragon has the larger subscription base (I could be wrong), has more articles of which folks would seem to have opinions/questions, and covers a broader spectrum of topics.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, though. I'm just curious. Any ideas?
Yeah, but more people want to get published in Dungeon than Dragon, and guess where they come to ask questions?
It would seem to me that Dragon has the larger subscription base (I could be wrong)
You are correct.
Yeah, but more people want to get published in Dungeon than Dragon, and guess where they come to ask questions?
I'm not sure that's true either... a number of the query related questions on these boards HAVE been asked in the Dragon messageboards, and I'm not convinced that fewer people submit for Dragon... though certainly the larger staff at Dragon helps get the queries turned around faster.
My guess is that the DMs tend to be a little more motivated and demanding in what we're looking for, and so are more vocal on the boards. Just a theory.
- Ashavan
Dungeon gets, on average, 2-3 proposals a day. Dragon gets quite a bit more proposals. Them Dragon folk (Jason, I'm looking at you!) can say better. I gotta go now. The D&D game is starting and I want to get a good seat.
Hurry up and die (your PC I mean). You're keeping Iquander from Greytalk :P
Is it just me, or does it look like my avatar summoned Koldoon's avatar?
: )
- rob
(Until we change them, of course)
Yes, but you should have place Koldoon better and picked up a flanking bonus on the other posters. ;)
You guys make me want to buy that Minis Book.
GGG
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Well, I keep an eye on both boards with alarming regularity, but I'm often more inclined to post on the Dungeon Board. There are several reasons, I think.
First of all, Dungeon is more focused. Sure, Dragon covers a wider variety of topics, but that keeps me from being too passionate about it. I mean, I expect a wide variety of offerings, so I'm not comparing each issue against all the previous issues. But Dungeon is different. I'm expecting high quality adventures in each issue, so if they fail to deliver, they'll hear about it. I don't really care whether they cover Pazuzu or Demogorgon in Dragon. It might be interesting, but Dungeon speaks directly to my game.
Because Dungeon features a recurring theme, essentially, it is easier to believe they've changed course while Dragon is harder to tell.
And I do think that Dungeon Master's are the core of the game. They're the most dedicated "players", since they're willing to do a lot of outside work. Since they're involved with the game between sessions, they tend to congregate with others that can commisserate with them.
And finally, Dungeon ran Wil Save, which generated hundreds of responses in three threads. That has a lot to do with the larger number of posts, but not necessarily the larger number of threads. Dragon just doesn't try anything so controversial.
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DeadDMWalking has hit upon the true answer I think. As a DM I am the only one in my games that spends hours preparing for games. I own the most material. And, it is my game. I think that to truly have a since of possesion for the game, you have to have either DM'd once, or be currently DMing now. Unfotunately I also think that that is why Dungeon will always have a smaller yet more vocal readership. Dragon is great, but in my little corner of the Roleplaying universe it is the story that is most important, and that story is usually to be had within the covers of Dungeon.
My issues arrive sparodically now, but back when I used to purchase them over the counter, Dragon would always be neglected until I had ravaged Dungeon at least once.
Tam
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More traffic on the Dungeonboard than here?!
Well, my experience showed me (only mine, mind you!), that players are lazy. You are born a DM or a Player type and thats it. I could DM for the rest of my life and would be happy with that. I know players who would never take the seat of the DM, because it is too much work for them, they rather just "come over" sit down and play...
We DMs use so much more time for our hobby that I think its natural, that traffic at the Dungeon messageboard is higher than here! DMs are talking more among each other than players! They need to, to improve their "art".
And, yes, other DMs are sometimes the only ones who appreciate our work on the hobby. I know players who will never realize how much time I put into a single adventure not speaking of a a campaign... Other DMs know!
Of course, there are DMs who also play, but if you look deep into your soul, you know what type you are, don't you?!
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One more thing -
Dragon has nothing to compare with an Adventure Path! And there is the MOST traffic over there...
If they would put something into the magazine like "Building a Town" and putting every month some floorplans and npcs into the mag (just an idea), that would push the traffic here, I am sure.
Hurry up and die (your PC I mean). You're keeping Iquander from Greytalk :PWow.
Sometimes, a messageboard post needs more than one smiley emote to take the edge off.
Wow.
Sometimes, people need to get over themselves and realize a joke when it's told.
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Hey Delgath -
If there is anything the Failed Wil Save thread taught me, it is that I should call people out when they're crossing a line. I'm sure James Jacobs can stand up for himself, but I don't think he should have to.
Maybe you should get over yourself and realize when a joke isn't a joke.
You want him to do something - your post made that obvious. His outside activities were getting in the way of that. You want his outside activities to "go away". That part isn't a joke. Now, maybe you don't really want his character to die, but that just isn't cool.
What you said can't qualify as a joke. Maybe you meant it to be a comical aside, but those work best if you know the person in question well enough to determine if they'd be offended. And if they would be, it just isn't funny.
I'm sure we can keep these boards a pleasant environment,a nd we don't have to make anyone feel bad (deliberately, or accidentally). Are you doing your part?
Interesting...
I didn't realize so many people equate Dungeon with DMs and Dragon with players.
As a DM, I tend to use more from Dragon and consider it my "go-to" source. I like Dungeon quite a bit, and do find useful information within its pages, but unless I'm actually running one of those adventures, I find Dragon has much more I will immediately incorporate into my campaign.
I think a lot of the traffic is generated by "playtesting notes." I mean folks posting about problems or questions they have in running a particular adventure or problems they forsee with their next play session. That stuff keeps me interested as I prepare to play my own games.
Just my thoughts,
Rooster
You want him to do something - your post made that obvious. His outside activities were getting in the way of that. You want his outside activities to "go away". That part isn't a joke. Now, maybe you don't really want his character to die, but that just isn't cool.
No, it was a joke. I don't give a rat's f@%!ing brown, caking a!%+&%~ if Erik shows up to Greytalk or not. I am asleep during most of it anyway.
You people all need to learn how to relax and stop taking yourselves so seriously. Christ, it's a f#@#ing message board, not a gladiatorial pit.
Well Shade, This might be one answer:
I don't give a rat's f*~%ing brown, caking a!!*~@% if Erik shows up to Greytalk or not. I am asleep during most of it anyway.
You people all need to learn how to relax and stop taking yourselves so seriously. Christ, it's a f*~%ing message board, not a gladiatorial pit.
GGG