What about raising friends who had turned undead?

[Taricus]

An NPC that was the best friend of one of the PC's had fallen in a battle with a wight. The NPC ended up rising as a wight and then attacked the party. (Which was so horrible to that PC, in particular, that he refused to attack her and lost some levels in the process... (she was shouting about how he caused it to happen and stuff, cuz her undead hatred of the living perverted the way she felt--freaky stuff LOL)) The other PC's dispatched her, emotionally, and they all took her to a large city nearby to hopefully get her raised from the dead.

My question is: Can someone who has fallen into the ranks of the undead be later raised from the dead? At the time, I ruled that a Ressurection spell would work, but that a Raise Dead spell couldn't. I really don't know how this would work and I can't find anything on it. I think I remember reading somewhere that it works that way, but it would be very unlikely as they are usually unwilling to return once they have changed to the undead (Her character was very concerned about a doppleganger which was hired as an assassin to take over her father's identity to help with a nearly bloodless coup of the city by a neighboring city. So, I figured that was reason enuff to come back to life--to at least make sure her father was okay.).

It would be nice to know how I *should* be handling this, cuz my campaign has alot to do with a cult to a forgotten, vampiric dragon-god (but don't tell them that! SHHHH! LOL :P). I'm sure they're going to face alot more level-draining undead. MUAHAHAHAHA *grins evilly*

Do you all think I handled it correctly? What suggestions do you have?

[Nicolas Logue]

Hey Taricus,

A creature that has become undead cannot be raised via the raise dead spell. Resurrection works fine though, as long as the undead abomination was destroyed first.

[Taricus]

Nicolas Logue wrote:

Hey Taricus,

A creature that has become undead cannot be raised via the raise dead spell. Resurrection works fine though, as long as the undead abomination was destroyed first.

Kewl, thanx!

[Qualidar]

Nicolas Logue wrote:

Hey Taricus,

A creature that has become undead cannot be raised via the raise dead spell. Resurrection works fine though, as long as the undead abomination was destroyed first.

Where's that from, NL? I didn't know that.

~Qualidar~

[Zherog]

It's in the raise dead spell. From the SRD:

SRD wrote:

A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can’t be raised by this spell.

[Qualidar]

Zherog wrote:

It's in the raise dead spell. From the SRD:

SRD wrote:

A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can’t be raised by this spell.

Thanks!

~Q~

[Zherog]

No problem. I just happened to have come across it recently while looking for something else. :)

[DMFTodd]

Resurrection doesn't work either. From the 3.5 SRD: "Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be resurrected."

True Resurrection does: "You can revive someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed. "

[Jeremy Walker]

DMFTodd wrote:

Resurrection doesn't work either. From the 3.5 SRD: "Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be resurrected."

Yes it does,

Check out the line before it:

3.5 SRD wrote:

Resurrection
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Clr 7
Casting Time: 10 minutes

This spell functions like raise dead, except that you are able to restore life and complete strength to any deceased creature.

The condition of the remains is not a factor. So long as some small portion of the creature’s body still exists, it can be resurrected, but the portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death. (The remains of a creature hit by a disintegrate spell count as a small portion of its body.) The creature can have been dead no longer than 10 years per caster level.

Upon completion of the spell, the creature is immediately restored to full hit points, vigor, and health, with no loss of prepared spells. However, the subject loses one level, or 2 points of Constitution if the subject was 1st level. (If this reduction would bring its Con to 0 or lower, it can’t be resurrected). This level loss or Constitution loss cannot be repaired by any means.

You can resurrect someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed. You cannot resurrect someone who has died of old age. Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be resurrected.
Material Component

A sprinkle of holy water and diamonds worth a total of at least 10,000 gp.

[Zherog]

right. The line you quoted, Todd, is meant to indicate that you can't restore an undead creature to, er, unlife.