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BofA to assess a $5/month fee for debit card use.

I think this is a mistake, because I do not believe it will have the intended effect. Rather, it will drive people back to checks, which cost more to process.

Thoughts?

I bank with wells fargo and if I see a fee all my money's coming out.

aylengyr wrote:

LilithsThrall wrote:

Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:

Jess Door wrote:

Please, people, I ask you not to try to start something here.

Religion and politics are never good to talk about, much less on the internet. A thread lock would be an Excellent idea. Just saying.

One of my degrees is anthropology and I've always liked to talk about the anthropology of religion. Sadly, I agree that such discussions are just about impossible on the Web.

I too love the study of the origin of religion, and I too find it's dangerous to talk about! Dis you see the article in national geographic about the Göbekli Tepe site? Very interesting.

No, I haven't. I've fallen behind in my reading over the last several months. But now that you've noted it, I'll see if I can get a copy of it.

Humm you can see it here: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text

Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:

Jess Door wrote:

Please, people, I ask you not to try to start something here.

Religion and politics are never good to talk about, much less on the internet. A thread lock would be an Excellent idea. Just saying.

One of my degrees is anthropology and I've always liked to talk about the anthropology of religion. Sadly, I agree that such discussions are just about impossible on the Web.

I too love the study of the origin of religion, and I too find it's dangerous to talk about! Dis you see the article in national geographic about the Göbekli Tepe site? Very interesting.

Well although I take breaks sometimes, I usually play 3.5/pathfinder 3 days a week. I know, I should go out more...

Why do people think the government is here to help us?

I don't. The gov help? Totally inconceivable. They are NOT your friend, ever.

Bitter Thorn I would like to say thanks for putting this out there. Things like this are a humiliation to civilization. We should not allow these things to happen if we are indeed a civilized people.

I don't - I was simply surprised at the strong reaction to my post. It seems that a week-long delay is something that seems acceptable to most people here. Maybe I misjudged the situation...

Well my opinion doesn't count for much, but maybe the negative posts are a result of the title of your initial post aka

It's entirely possible that these were taken in an inflammatory way, I have no idea why....(sarcasm included here)

What are the messageboard rules?
The most important rule: Don't be a jerk. We want our messageboards to be a fun and friendly place.
Quoted from the FAQ.

Well all the people I play with want Roleplaying to be the dominant force. In fact they get bored with just fighting. They like character development and all that entails. I suppose they're actors at heart.

Well I don't care much for politics or morality/religion blah blah, but I know that what happened to these people......that was just plain evil. I'm shocked by the story.

Hey this is some story, brightened up my night. Thanks for sharing!

I like this. this makes me laugh.... Hey what's to stop me from posting on there and putting up mine for a billion dollars US, why stop at a paltry sum in the thousand range when you can shoot for a billion. Aim high. You know seriously, this makes amazon look bad.

I wish Sarah Palin would just go away. She is not doing us conservatives any good.

She can't go away, that road she built up there doesn't GO anywhere! (vague reference to that whole alaskan road project thing, maybe you remember, maybe not)

I was just commenting to my GF about this very thing, I picked up my copy and said, "Hey this thing's getting fishy feeling, I hope all the pages don't fall out..." Oh yeah mines a first printing also. Nothing yet has fallen out though, just feels suspicious and makes sounds if molested.

Just to put things in perspective. Not William Shatner; he's a pudgy, tomato faced oldassed Canadian. I mean the real Captain Kirk.

Well duh, come on really everyone knows only Chuck Norris is even on the same page as Kirk......

aylengyr wrote:

Humm......rituals in pathfinder......I left running and screaming from wotc for a reason, I didn't like 4e, so I definitely 100% don't want anything even remotely like that in pathfinder. But it's not up to me so I guess I'll adopt a wait and see attitude for now.

Have you taken a look at the Unearthed Arcana rules for incantations? If not, it's worth checking out the link I posted above, IMO.

Well, I have looked this over and it seems fine. I can see some uses for this in play. I need some more free time though to experiment with it and see what I think about it in detail.

Humm......rituals in pathfinder......I left running and screaming from wotc for a reason, I didn't like 4e, so I definitely 100% don't want anything even remotely like that in pathfinder. But it's not up to me so I guess I'll adopt a wait and see attitude for now.

Well no matter how silly it got sometimes you have to admit his death is a loss, he was a real character. I remember watching him on tv, had a nice soothing voice....

Food for thought

Indeed, food for thought. Thanks for sharing these links. I enjoyed reading these, and I doubt I would have seen them if you hadn't posted the links.

Well I've been looking for an alternative to the clunky yet decent pcgen forever. I'm interested.

While all the things mentioned here so far are excellent, I live for three things, (not ranked in order of importance):

1=sleep
2-food
3-companionship

Everything else is a waste of time.

Yeah I agree with what he's going on about, but I think it's hopeless to "agitate for change". The world isn't the same as it was and the young people of today are not the old people of yesteryear. Play style is now controlled and dominated by the video game market so it's only natural that paper rpg's are imitating video games. I despise it myself but I am not a young person so I wouldn't possible understand and besides I still have paizo for now.....

Hey All

I am starting this thread for those who do not like Pathfinder and want to comment about what they dislike. I am starting a similar thread about stuff they do like. Please keep it civil.

I dislike how they made it with such skill and inspiration that I can't find anything to dislike about it.

I use and like d20 modern for all my modern games. It works well and is in my opinion very underrated.

Before anyone kills me let me explain. I played D&D 3.5 for awhile when I was 19(26 now) and decided to get back into gaming. The thing is I will be the DM this time around and all my friends that are willing to play have never played a pen and paper rpg. After looking over the SRD and lots of thinking I am pretty sure I will have an easier smoother time teaching them 4E then the 3.5 system.

So heres the deal. I have a brand new copy of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook(have not even opened the package lol) and a new copy of the Pathfinder Campaign Setting. I'm looking for someone to trade me their 4E books for my Pathfinder books. I am mainly interested in the Core Books and the Eberron Setting. Let me know if your interested in trading and we will work something out!!

thanks!!

p.s. I also do not mind people posting their opinions on which would be easier for a total Newbie group(including the DM) to run.

All I've got to even offer is the players handbook and monster manual for 4th. I got those two when it first came out, so I could check it out. Didn't really do anything for me so they're just idling around waiting for selling. If you want them I would be willing to part with them for virtually nothing. It would be nice to see them put to use somewhere. My local store won't do trades or anything and obviously I'm too lazy to sell them otherwise or I would have by now......

I haven't bought anything from wotc in a long time, to me they're dead and buried.

We're working hard to make this the best PDF Paizo has ever produced. Not only will it be fully bookmarked, but it will also be internally hyperlinked, and we've had four people working on that project since it went to the printer.

Now I'm excited! I love pdf's and can hardly wait to see this one. I fully intend to get it as soon as it's available to download. Of course my love is also enhanced by the fact that I will be waiting oh I don't know how long for my hardcopy to show up via local gaming store order.

the NATURE of any business is buy low and sell high. Again how is that wrong?

Well for me it all comes down to being cheated. I feel cheated when somebody offers me less than half what I paid for something no matter what the circumstances are. I personally would rather give it away to someone who wanted it than take the offer. But hey, I'm nuts so you know whatever and all that.

Well I suppose if you had some really useless books lying around and didn't have any other use fore them and didn't want to waste the time to sell them or trade them any other way then go for it. But otherwise this deal sounds a lot like a pawnbroker's deal to me. Buy for nothing sell high. You get the idea.

I tried this awhile with my fellow gamers and although it worked just fine it was met with mixed feelings. Probably because it was very different from dnd and that was what they were all used to. It as a system did just fine though it was decidedly more dangerous and well darker than standard dndish rpg play.

This is an easy question for me. First I remember reading the first Rise of the Runelords book and being amazed at the quality of writing/art inside. It was nice and refreshing to see uncensored creative material out there. Wow! I was totally impressed. Also there's nowhere else for me to go really. Without paizo's pathfinder rpg to carry things forward then dnd is dead to me. Dead as in rigor mortis dead. It's stiff really. Fortunately the paizo staff are all geniuses and have made an excellent rpg that I am proud to play. Well anyway now i'm rambling so that's enough.

Chinadoll wrote:

Pax Veritas wrote:

Look - here is what the game publishers won't tell you.

...its the same famous quote by E.G.Gygax...

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules."

-Quote popularly attributed to Gary Gygax

"Behind the mirrors... behind the smoke.... sits the gamemaster. A perfect puppet master, and the greatest bard of modern times. He knows how to open the window to another plane, and let the dreams and horrors of the unconscious dance upon the game table. His role, done well, should take you elsewhere - beyond rulebooks, to a realm of shared imagination that appears all at once, immersive theater, and a functioning game system. The game can expand the mind and manifest meaning from the substances stored in our subconscious. An experience not unlike that of a church-like community forms when the players suspend disbelief in favor of the game master's world. And so it is the appearance of a system that makes the game magical, not the actual existence of it."
-Pax Veritas-

No rules = anarchy. YAY!

Now consider what you've said. More deeply, though you were just having fun... Look around at society for just a moment... please, indulge me just this once... See that it has rules, strictures, and dice. Now, consider that many times - it does not. There is much more meaning behind this game - levels of meaning and symolic relationships to "reality" that go far deeper than any publisher would be willing to print. See now, the relationship that is Gary's game :: to the rest of the world. It is a delve into the imagination, in ways that release the mind from the strictures, and rules of society itself. And in those moments when the mind is free in the fantasy realm, we explore how in-character, we can touch the matrix and alter the very framework of the realm we believe is "reality."

One needs only to look at volumous works of psychology to see how role-playing can open the...

This is all genius, just genius.

The times, they are a changin'.

I certainly hope so. I for one am sick and tired of people making decisions based ONLY on $$$. That's a terrible way to be as a person and it ties in terribly with a company who is based on an imaginary game world. Big business need to get out of the creative business. It stinks at it. Leave it to the small guys.

In my mind, though, Cynosure is part star, part palace, part space station, part living crystal, part cocoon, part paradise, part other stuff.

Wow, that's totally inspiring. Very cool indeed.

I still remember picking up the rise of the runelords, looking though them and saying to myself, "hey this is amazing!" Before then I'd been disillusioned on "official" published stuff. When I saw those adventures and art though I realized that I had found something special again. I subscribed at once and have never regretted it at all.

Hey how about a live action pac-man? Or maybe Joust? Those would be good stories to tell. As long as they avoid CG and stick to real actors. CG just wouldn't do it justice.

vitriol is a fancy word, i've seen it a lot lately. That's what my car runs on. It's good stuff, makes me have good acceleration. You guys should buy vitriol exclusively when you get gas for your car. Probably not good for lawnmowers though.

aylengyr wrote:

Ok I was going to say /ignore again, BUT what you said was reasonable, so here goes. No what you said was not in the least provocative, EXCEPT you went out of your way to come over here and post it.

Wow. Forgive me for chiming in.

aylengyr wrote:

Ok check it out, the title of the thread is obviously uh not so friendly to 4.0/wotc.

No. The thread title is "If I wasn't convinced before ..." which says absolutely nothing about what the contents of the thread might be.

aylengyr wrote:

So why come post here at all?

It never struck you that maybe people might want to talk about the shoe contest?

aylengyr wrote:

Clearly you were looking for trouble and you found it.

Actually, I was looking to read the thread. I then came across something - namely, your post - which immediately struck me as hostile and terribly unreasonable, not to mention the latest in a terrifyingly long string of threads which make it very clear that the Paizo fanbase is, on the whole, both a) overtly hostile towards WotC, and b) when not overtly hostile, unwilling to take others to task for their overt hostility towards WotC.

aylengyr wrote:

If you don't want trouble don't look for it.

One might say the same about you sharing your opinion of the shoe article. If you're allowed to rant against WotC's shoe contest, what possible ground could you stand on to say that I'm not allowed to rant against your own rant?

aylengyr wrote:

I think if you disagree with my post you should ignore it, or say something about how you disagree, but understand that you can''t change my mind about it.

It's really unfortunate that this is the case. I prefer to start with the optimistic view that a person's mind is open to change, but all too often that turns out to not be true.

aylengyr wrote:

I just think you came over here and picked on my post because you were looking for trouble and that is what I think is provocative.

...

Ok I at first posted something else here but on retroflection I decided this was all a silly thing. I didn't even say anything bad!!!! Oh and I think your coming here and posting not on topic but on my post was certainly you looking for trouble. You know anytime anyone posts about someone else's post and no the thread they are picking a fight. But anyway look I'm moving on, I have work to do and I can no longer be bothered defending myself over here for my opinions. I will just say this last piece. I have my opinions and I WILL POST THEM HERE unless PAIZO asks me not to. This is their forums. Otherwise I HIGHLY suggest you do as I am going to do and when I see your hostile posts I will reply, If I reply at all with only /IGNORE.

aylengyr wrote:

Thank you very much. I think it's funny that people want to stop me or anyone else from saying anything critical about 4.0. It's just MY opinion. I'm not all powerful or anything, if you don't like my opinion why make me mad by attacking me? Just say I disagree or whatever and move on. Or say something not provocative. It's easy to be nice.

Because the equivalent of "A shoe contest? How low could you go, Wizards?" is totally not provocative at all.

Ok I was going to say /ignore again, BUT what you said was reasonable, so here goes. No what you said was not in the least provocative, EXCEPT you went out of your way to come over here and post it. Ok check it out, the title of the thread is obviously uh not so friendly to 4.0/wotc. So why come post here at all? Clearly you were looking for trouble and you found it. If you don't want trouble don't look for it. I think if you disagree with my post you should ignore it, or say something about how you disagree, but understand that you can''t change my mind about it. I just think you came over here and picked on my post because you were looking for trouble and that is what I think is provocative. Not what you said but that you bothered coming here to say it at all. Oh yeah and while I'm not ignoring I just have to ask, why do you care so much? If I hate, just seethingly absolutely hate 4.0 and wotc, why do you care so much? Why not chill? You seem to be a reasonable man. This isn't Wotc's website, what does it matter if I post here complaining about something that obviously bothers me about wotc? Hummm? I mean who cares? It's just my thoughts! If I think something is silly or stupid or whatever who cares! If you don't agree then fine! That's cool, awesome. I don't come over and police your thoughts and posts, so leave mine alone. If you made a thread and said, "I hate (insert whatever here)." I would not come over and post how silly you are in that thread because that would be looking for trouble. That's about it.

Hey, DarkWhite. I don't think what happened in this thread really had anything to do with custom sneakers. There's just a certain attraction between how it was perceived and a raw nerve among certain former customers who take it as a further mark of their alienation, and that collided with the desire of others to defend said company from what they see as unfair errors of the intellect. No big deal.

I'm an aging gamer, and I'm not happy with Wotci or their new edition, but I kind of think the contest and the shoes are kind of cool. (And I've never played a MMORPG.)

You are right, the whole shoe thing just served as a starting point for my thoughts.

Aylengyr, I don't think I've formally welcomed you to Paizoland. Welcome! There's lots of great folks and threads in this place of happy continuance. Make yourself at home.

Thank you! Quoting Holy grail, "I feel happy!"

aylengyr wrote:

Wow, thank you!! You know I really appreciate it. Oh and I am absolutely ignoring him from now on. I just don't have the anger-management skills required anymore.

Don't let it get to you. When he's rude, flag the post (with the "Flag" that is beside "Reply") and move on.

It's nothing personal, some people attack everyone who doesn't worship wotc and 4e and accuse them of being rude and insulting.

Thank you very much. I think it's funny that people want to stop me or anyone else from saying anything critical about 4.0. It's just MY opinion. I'm not all powerful or anything, if you don't like my opinion why make me mad by attacking me? Just say I disagree or whatever and move on. Or say something not provocative. It's easy to be nice.

aylengyr wrote:

well my real player comment comes from the idea that dnd is attempting to appeal to the Wii "casual gamer" crowd

Could you stop lumping together dnd and the Wii? I have a Wii, and I'm really feeling insulted.

I assure you I meant NO insult to the Wii, it's just that the Wii is always associated with the "casual gamer" thing, so that's why I used it. Nothing against the Wii here. Oh and I would never intentionally insult you because I actually respect you a lot for what i've seen of your posts here. Very intelligently reasoned and written. *bows*

aylengyr wrote:

Well it smells like a marketing ploy intentioned to aid in pushing dnd to the young casual gamer crowd. Like I said, an attempt to make it palatable to the new players weaned on modern ps3/xbox games. A visualization: a young child is sitting on the floor near you and you are snapping your fingers at it and saying look at me, come on look here. Trying to keep its focus on you. This is why I don't approve. It's debasing to the real players. Real players don't need strange marketing ploys to keep their attention and it shows how far the game has fallen that WOTC feels like it has to resort to these things to keep the mass publics attention. I also perfectly understand that these things have happened before, history is funny that way. Lots of silly stuff happened with them(TSR and friends) also. I still didn't approve.

What we need is some type of card or tatoo so we can differentiate these "real players" from their counterparts, which I can only assume are either "imaginary players" or robots.

Maybe we could come up with a secret handshake! That would be so cool. I always have trouble identifying the individuals I should scorn. The other alternative I could imagine would be to let them post their thoughts on a public internet forum and identify them by what they say and how hard it makes me laugh.

well my real player comment comes from the idea that dnd is attempting to appeal to the Wii "casual gamer" crowd with its new 4.0 and marketing as exemplified by this shoe idea. Anyway by real player I meant one who actually plays a lot and enjoys the game and social aspects thereof vs one who was "suckered in" by the marketing and such and only plays because he does, and constantly need something to hold his attention, usually they stop playing after a few sessions. Thats what I meant.

aylengyr wrote:

VagrantWhisper wrote:

.. that I'm no longer the type of gamer that Wizards of the Coast wants to appeal to, this pretty much seals the deal:

Community Built D&D Shoes

It's got all the hip buzz words: popularity, min/max, community, voting... ugh.

Whatever happened to that kind of popularity contest just staying on Facebook where it belongs?

uh I'm shocked. My first and only response is and I quote, "Is this real?" I honestly have no idea......*scratches head*. I'm glad I'm not having anything to do with that stuff over there anymore. It disturbs and upsets me to see just how far the official DnD has fallen from its former glory. Very very low. If it wasn't for paizo I'd have no source for new material. Well other than myself of course.

Uh, why are you shocked? D&D has sold lots of similar products to the masses in the past (ala pre-WotC). There's an anniversary issue of Dragon magazine that showcases various products aimed at the non-rpg masses. (I don't have the issue with me at work, so I can't provide examples at the moment.)

Well it smells like a marketing ploy intentioned to aid in pushing dnd to the young casual gamer crowd. Like I said, an attempt to make it palatable to the new players weaned on modern ps3/xbox games. A visualization: a young child is sitting on the floor near you and you are snapping your fingers at it and saying look at me, come on look here. Trying to keep its focus on you. This is why I don't approve. It's debasing to the real players. Real players don't need strange marketing ploys to keep their attention and it shows how far the game has fallen that WOTC feels like it has to resort to these things to keep the mass publics attention. I also perfectly understand that these things have happened before, history is funny that way. Lots of silly stuff happened with them(TSR and friends) also. I still didn't approve.

aylengyr wrote:

Scott Betts wrote:

Yes, we know that's what you were saying. I responded to someone specific, who was not you.

you know you have been attempting to pick on me ever since I joined the forums here at paizo. I'm trying to be nice about it but i'm just plain mad right now. I pay good money to paizo for their books and this is their forum not yours. I can post whatever I want around here. Shove off and get your own forums if you want absolute control. I like to say a lot more but I'm trying to be nice as I said. Now im going back to ignoring you utterly. From now on don't even bother to post anything back to me since I'm not going to reply to it, only flag it and get mad.

You really should not respond to Scott, he's not worth your time, ignore him it's best for all. Other posters see him for what he is so no response is even needed.

Keep posting on any topic you like, those who are paid to regulate these boards will let you know if they think you went to far.

Wow, thank you!! You know I really appreciate it. Oh and I am absolutely ignoring him from now on. I just don't have the anger-management skills required anymore.

Blazej wrote:

I was going to respond and clarify that my response wasn't really directed at the original post, but I think that this has gone downhill quickly and I don't really want to be on either "side" in this discussion anymore.

<Insert Shoe-based Puns hre>

Ya, now I'm just kind of amused at how quickly a thread can run amok.

I feel like I just dropped a can of gas on an unseen lit match! LOL

Well I want to assure you that I meant nothing but to offer my thoughts on the matter which I thought was in the spirit of the forums. I hope I didn't upset you.

aylengyr wrote:

Scott Betts wrote:

aylengyr wrote:

uh I'm shocked. My first and only response is and I quote, "Is this real?" I honestly have no idea......*scratches head*. I'm glad I'm not having anything to do with that stuff over there anymore. It disturbs and upsets me to see just how far the official DnD has fallen from its former glory. Very very low. If it wasn't for paizo I'd have no source for new material. Well other than myself of course.

OH NO! NIFTY D&D-THEMED SHOES! HOW LOW COULD WOTC GO?

Really, guys, the only thing that's getting ridiculous here is the unreasonable, negative reactions to every move WotC makes. I mean, for crying out loud, now you're complaining about a shoe contest?

/ignore *snap*

Stay classy, Paizo fans.

/IGNORE <---read please it doesn't want a reply

Yes, we know that's what you were saying. I responded to someone specific, who was not you.

you know you have been attempting to pick on me ever since I joined the forums here at paizo. I'm trying to be nice about it but i'm just plain mad right now. I pay good money to paizo for their books and this is their forum not yours. I can post whatever I want around here. Shove off and get your own forums if you want absolute control. I would like to say a lot more but I'm trying to be nice as I said. Now im going back to ignoring you utterly. From now on don't even bother to post anything back to me since I'm not going to reply to it, only flag it and get mad.

aylengyr wrote:

uh I'm shocked. My first and only response is and I quote, "Is this real?" I honestly have no idea......*scratches head*. I'm glad I'm not having anything to do with that stuff over there anymore. It disturbs and upsets me to see just how far the official DnD has fallen from its former glory. Very very low. If it wasn't for paizo I'd have no source for new material. Well other than myself of course.

OH NO! NIFTY D&D-THEMED SHOES! HOW LOW COULD WOTC GO?

Really, guys, the only thing that's getting ridiculous here is the unreasonable, negative reactions to every move WotC makes. I mean, for crying out loud, now you're complaining about a shoe contest?

/ignore *snap*