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Understandable, thank you for keeping the game going for as long as you have. Best wishes from me as well.

@ August: If you are looking for a game August, I have a game I've been running for a bit and have an open slot available if you're interested. Gavia is currently in that game playing Bryndis and the game has been going fairly well so fare. Take a look at it and see if it's something that would appeal to you. The Rusty Flagon Inn

The group is currently at level 3 and you can see what classes are being played in the game thread. Muziel, the groups wizard, has recently had to step down, so his spot is currently open.

"I'm not sure. There's still a lot missing from this puzzle for me to know if a deal, or some other arrangement, can be made. For starters, how does the old guy have you bound? What will you do if I were able to free you? What can you offer in exchange for my effort? That's assuming freeing you is even possible."

Diplomacy: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (15) + 7 = 22

Zuriel cautiously moves further into the room. Once he reaches the alcove, he glances in.

"Sounds like you require something from us. You mentioned something about needing to be freed? Perhaps we can work something out.

I was kind of hoping someone might know what a shae is.

Zuriel takes a look inside, then inspects the area for traps.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (10) + 8 = 18

Once confident that the area is clear of traps, he enters the room.

"I suspect we are not who you are expecting." Zuriel says in a calm and uncharacteristically dignified tone. "Allow me to introduce myself, I'm Zurielitamulion. The master's newest apprentice and these fine folk are friends of mine. Could you be a little more specific about this ruin and madness? I'm quite curious what I've gotten myself into."

Bluff: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (12) + 8 = 20

Zuriel gets a confused look on his face and then shrugs. Once everyone is ready, he opens the door and peeks in.

I like the sound of Eldritch. Might consider sorcerer/ dragon bloodline. I think that would be an interesting meshing of arcane and divine. Natural armor, which stacks with normal armor.

Agreed August. There is a lot of circumstance issues with pulling off that amount of DPS. To have all of them at once is unlikely. Fighter would increase BAB and add a lot of feats, but not much diversity, which I believe was the primary reason to go Gestalt. So, I figured inquisitor is one of the most diverse classes, it has some back up heals, and with the right god it leans into Zuriel's sinical perspective. Zuriel is full of lust, just not lust of the flesh. Well, not at least when anyone is looking. He lusts mainly for treasure. Vengeful is something I could totally see within his temperament, and trickery, well, that speaks for itself.

After thoroughly searching the current room, Zuriel heads out the door, down the corridor, and then turns left. Taking his time while moving slowly down the passage, he search the entire corridor as he proceeds.

Zuriel will search the corridor as he moves taking 10+8 =18 (+1 for traps).

Racial FCB’s are gonna apply to both classes sneak attack im going to cap at 3/4 of your hit dice. I just realized that sneak attack accrual is weird with gestalt. I figure with an extra die or so it’s not a huge deal.

I was looking over the sneak attack progression and it looks like stacking it could get OP very quickly. When comparing a side-by-side view, it looks like the slayers sneak attack mirrors the rogues every other progression. Meaning, on the levels the sneak attack matches, only 1 should apply. So, Zuriel at level 4 would have 2d6 sneak attack from rogue and 1d6 from inquisitor slayer. That would be 3/4 of his hit dice.

What about feats that add sneak attack dice? Example: Inquisitor gains a teamwork feat of his choice, which he assumes any allies automatically also have. Would he still gain the addition 1d6 from precis strike?

Teamwork Feat: At 3rd level, and every three levels thereafter, the inquisitor gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained from normal advancement. These bonus feats must be selected from those listed as teamwork feats. The inquisitor must meet the prerequisites of the selected bonus feat.

Solo Tactics: At 3rd level, all of the inquisitor’s allies are treated as if they possessed the same teamwork feats as the inquisitor for the purpose of determining whether the inquisitor receives a bonus from her teamwork feats. Her allies do not receive any bonuses from these feats unless they actually possess the feats themselves. The allies’ positioning and actions must still meet the prerequisites listed in the teamwork feat for the inquisitor to receive the listed bonus.

Maxed out attack option
Move action (Bluff/Faint) 1d20+12
Attack Elven curved blade: +10 (+2 w/Flank) (1d10+11/18-20) (This includes Power attack and study target) +3d6 sneak damage (Rogue) +1d6 (Sneak Damage Inquisitor) +1d6 sneak damage (Precise strike) +2d6 (Bane) + Debilitating injury (Hampered -2/-4 to hit). (Granted this scenario assumes flank is possible and he has time to identify and study his target, get in place, and bane his weapon.)

This wouldn't take into account any of the spells the inquisitor can add into the mix. The build is, without a doubt, a strong build that is massively diverse. The reason I'm pointing this out now is the fact I don't wish to break the game with an overly powerful build. If you disallow or reduce this build, I will completely understand. The reason I'm tabling this build is to try and offset the reduction of fire power from the reduced party size. That and it spreads out a little more healing. I could simply eliminate the (Sanctified Slayer) option on the inquisitor and revert to basic inquisitor. I leave it in GM's hands. Let me know what you think.

OK, more or less, I think I have Zuriel set up with a gestalt build. I will be taking (Unchained rogue / Inquisitor-Sanctified Slayer) of Calistria. The goddess of Lust, REVENGE, and Trickery fits into Zuriel's personality and history.

After looking things over, I could see Zuriel branching into Inquisitor (Sanctified slayer). Slayer would grant off level sneak attacks that would stack with the rogues. He would also gain Bane, spells, and a number of other cool stuff. I think that would be the most interesting build....I will likely go that route.

I'm a bit curious. Have you decided which way you might go with your Gestalt class August?

Are we still going to have the +1 HP, Skill Point, and favored class bonus when we switch over?

Zuriel steps up and rubs the line. "There. Be gone with you and never come back unless you wish to serve the church."

After rubbing the line, Zuriel turns to the rest of the group. "Sounds like there is still something interesting to be found."

I don't know if this helps but after installing the pack, gestalt shows up as a class in the class selection processes. Select it as class 1 then select what two classes you desire. You should now have a gestalt tab where you can assign the two other classes, which combines them.

Gestalt for Hero Labs.

There is a PDF to read on how to install. It's fairly easy. Keep in mind that this is a third party add on. I'm not sure how secure it is. Its available on the Lone Wolf Development forum.

So, it's safe to say, 20 in all stats is a bit of a reach LoL...

OK, I found a way, using a third party add on, to allow Hero Labs to create a gestalt character. That was my biggest hold up with the gestalt concept. I didn't want to hand track and update the character. To much time and effort to do it all manually. Anyway, I think I will branch into fighter/rogue. Are we going to apply the 20 to all stats or just primary ones? 20 base almost feels a little OP.

"So, this magic binding thing is a little new to me. How do I release you. Oh, and you never answered me about the book. Is that book the one you were talking about?"

"Hmm." Zurel Says out loud. "Is that the book you're talking about?" He replies to the devil while pointing at the book Gavia just swiped from his hand.

"OK. here is what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about a verbal contract. Here in front of all these witnesses. If I release you, you agree to go straight back to hell and stay there for one thousand years. If you come back to our world, for any reason, you invoke our agreement."

Zuriel begins pacing slowly back and forth. "In the event you come back here our contract will bind you to the service of the church of...?" He passuses for a moment, then continues. "Let's say Sarenrae for the remainder of the time in the contract. In their service, you will work and do as they instruct. You will be a mediator between the church and hell. You will be their eyes and ears and report to no one else but the church. Do you agree to this one-thousand-year binding contract?"

Zuriel gets a small wicked little smile on his face. Then he furrows his eyebrows strongly when he remembers Gavia just swiped his book.

My best two stat are Dex 16 and Charisma 14. I'm not sure what would be a good secondary class for Zuriel.

"I agree August. Besides he hasn't told us anything useful. Like the reason the wizard summoned him here in the first place." Zuriel says before starting an inspection of the surrounding area.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15

Not sure if we searched the area or not, so I'm going to start a search now.

"Pile of gold in some random cave. Perhaps I should investigate every cave, in every area, from here to infinity." Zuriel laughs. "Let me see." He then places both his index fingers to his temples. "I think I can see your future. The local government secures you, magically of course, and then ships you to Cheliax to serve as a familiar to some young apprentice wizard. Young, with a lot of years ahead of him. The image is beginning to fade but it looks like the apprentice is an upstanding member of his community. Apparently, he is having you perform community service to help out the poor. What good and noble future. I think you should hold out on the gold's location and secure this future. It will literally change your way of life." Zuriel says in his normal sarcastic tone.

Intimidate: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (20) + 6 = 26

Zuriel goes to smudge out the circle, which he believes might be binding the creature to this realm. Moments before he hits the circle, he pauses. “Emm, perhaps I’m being a bit too hasty. I mean, really. I don’t think you told us anything useful. All you pointed out is the fact that he talked to other devils. We could simply surmise that on our own.” After reconsidering the situation, Zuriel pulls his foot back before doing anything to compromise the situation. “I’m sorry. I’m going to need something far more useful if I’m going to take a chance and let you out.” He states with a new resolve. “Tit for tat, this for that. You know, something to make this whole thing worth it. If not, we can defer this situation to the city and see how long they want to leave you in this mystical cage. Think very, very hard. Surly you can give me something worth taking a risk for.”

I'm not familiar with gestalt, but with a little guidance, I could probably pick it up. That said, I'm also open to picking up more players. I'm ok with Gavia posting slow due to her work, assuming she wants to continue.

I have been hesitant on posting because of the lack of content from other players. I don't want to feel like I'm the only one posting.

I'm still here, but I acknowledge your point and am ok if you decide to close it down.

“Fine.” Zuriel says as he walks into the room. “I will smudge out the crap on the floor if you can give us some useful information. A treasure's location, one of the wizard's secrets, anything that would be of use to us. Oh, and place an emphasis on the location of a treasure part. That would be my preferred pre-pro-quo.”

Zuriel considers the devil's words before relaying his opinion to his friends. "From what I can tell, the little guy sounds sincere about returning to Hell. I vote we send him back or find someone who is able to do it."

Sense Motive: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (20) + 5 = 25

Zuriel listens to the outsider carefully. Trying to pick up the slightest shift in the creature's voice in order to determine if it's being sincere or, as expected, intending something sinister.

"Looks good from here." Zuriel replies from well outside the room.

Zuriel considers Gavia's suggestion for a moment, then comments back. "Ya, I'm not so sure I could leave an ugly lamp be. Come home from work, ugly-lamp. go to work, ugly-lamp. Prepare lunch, ugly-lamp. Go to bed, ugly-lamp. At some point, the ugly demon has to go....erm, I mean lamp."

Zuriel observes from a distance and is skeptical of anything this creature has to say. "August, do you think you can destroy that horrible monster? If we leave it here, it might eat the people who come to clear out the place. If we break the circle, does it go back to hell? Or is it set free and released here? Frigon wizards and their stooped obsession with demons!"

Zuriel silently declines while observing the process from outside the room. he makes sure there is a fairly large gap between himself and the demon.

Zuriel begins to enter the room after August indicates its clear of demons. As soon as the voice presents itself, he bolts out of the room. "Demons! Run!" He announces during the process of fleeing.

Zuriel looks over at Gavia with a look of fear in his eyes. Then he looks over to August. "Would you be willing to see if there is any more of those demons in there." He asks in a tone that is riddled with self-doubt.

After ensuring the secret door is clear, Zuriel begins slowly making his way down the corridor. “Could someone check and see if any of the oddities in this room is magical?” He asks just before entering through the secret door.

Perception (Corridor)[/dice: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 8 + 1 = 17

Apologies for the delay, I wanted to give others a chance to post. Just in case they wanted to slide in.

Zuriel takes a second look at the door after Ethulfel opens it. After glancing over the door, he steps into the room and immediately begins searching for traps or hazards.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 8 + 1 = 17

After clearing the room, he inspects the secret door for traps. During the process, it becomes clear that Gavia's words weigh heavily on the rogue. His normal self-confident posture gives way to uncertainty as his hand slightly trembles during his inspection.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (17) + 8 + 1 = 26

After considering Gavia's words, Zuriel steps back and waits patiently as Ethulfel examines the door. In fact, he takes a couple steps back, putting about ten feet between himself and the door.

Zuriel stops inspecting the door and looks over at Gavia with furrowed brows. "What do you mean almost dead?" He asks while taking a second look at the blood-soaked gash in his armor's shoulder piece.

”Well we also have heard from the next of kin from Hunclay, it seems his cousin doesn’t wish to claim any of his property and requested it be auctioned off and the proceeds sent to her. This leaves us with the problem of trying to discern the safety of his home considering it’s likely trapped after seeing the smoldering kobold on the doorstep. I’d like to ask you to help us, you will be compensated, and can participate in the auction should you choose to find any items you may want. I was also hoping you could possibly discern why he was in the old stone tower as well, maybe he had a reason to be there.”

The items are unfortunately all to be sold but the payment will be 5,000 gold pieces. Which I think should more than cover doing the task.

Very well once you’ve made your way through and made sure it’s safe just come find me. I’ll be around town for the foreseeable future.”

From this, I believe we were commissioned to make the house safe. The kobold who got blown up at the front door led them to think the house was trapped.

"so now we call it a day right?"

"You would think, right?" Zuriel replies as he continues to glance around.

After concluding that the room contains no further threats, he heads down below to inspect the remaining unexplored door.

Perception: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 8 + 1 = 17

Zuriel pulls himself up off the floor and regains his feet while noting the large gash in his armor. “Must have been one hell of a hit. I can’t remember anything beyond sinking my blade deep into the demon. Past that, it’s all a blur.”

After taking a moment to regain his senses, Zuriel begins searching the demon and the area.

Taking 10+8 = (18) on both perception checks.

Ethulfel’s heal staunched the excessive blood flow that had been spilling out of the Zuriel’s shoulder cavity, but the elf's condition was obviously bad. The demon’s weapon severed his left shoulder blade and drove deep into his chest. A blow that should have killed him instantly. Luck alone, keep him hanging on by a thread. A thread just long enough to allow Ethulfel to work his life saving magic. Although his wound had closed substantially, Zuriel still laid motionless in a pool of his own blood after the healing.

The power of the wand finally brought Zuriel back to the living world. His eyes opened in an extremely groggy state, leaving little doubt that he was unsure about his surroundings. “What happened?” He asked while lifting himself slightly off the ground. The wand had done its job, closing the deep gash, but Zuriel seemed almost oblivious to how close to death he just came.

The Schir turns towards Zuriel and throws its horn at him before stepping away from the flank and dropping its halberd on him.

I figured that was coming after hitting him with that nasty sneak crit. Let me know when you want me to make a stabilize roll.

Fort (DC15): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (18) + 2 = 20

Startled by the idea that the demon is able to attack the gate, Zuriel quickly brings his sword to bear with a series of quick feints and strikes.

(Bluff) Feint: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (11) + 8 = 19

(Attack) Cold-Iron Elven Curved blade vs. Demon: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (19) + 6 = 25 (Another +2 if flank is possible.)
Damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (7) + 4 = 11
Sneak Damage: 2d6 ⇒ (5, 2) = 7

(Attack) Critical Confirmation: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (14) + 6 = 20 (Another +2 if flank is possible.)
Damage: 1d10 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13

Zuriel rolls his eyes. “Clearly this demon could simply swat us down without hesitation if it were free. It’s powerful, imposing, and damn right cool as hell. Get it, cool as hell. Apologies for the little, not so funny, pun. Banish it might be an option. Or, a more accurate statement would be, have it banished. That said, I can’t say that I’m not a little bit curious about the reward he mentioned. Say, something like he agreed to serve as my familiar for a thousand years. He would then be bound to do my bidding, and of course, I would never have him do anything evil. That would be a thousand years of no evil from this supper powerful demon lord. He's naturally evil, yes, but wouldn’t be allowed to do evil things. Heck, I might even be able to get it to good things. It's not like he chose to be born an evil demon. I say we hear him out."

Zuriel looks back over at the demon. "What do you think Bob? Or would you rather I address you by a different name?"

Have a good camping trip. May you catch a big fish and roast many marshmallows!

After stepping back, out of the reach of the creature's halberd, Zuriel scratches his chin. "Hmm, spell wards you say. That explains a few things." After looking back over at the caged beasty, Zuriel continues. "Why didn't you just come out and say who and what you were from the get-go. That would have saved a lot of time. Now, let's continue about this reward. Could you be a bit more specific?"

"I'm thinking your stalling with comments like that. I suspect the master may not even know you are in here ransacking his s#@*. I have half a mind to simply alert the authorities and let them deal with you. That is, unless you tell me WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN HERE."

(I think I will take 10+8=18 on bluff for everything coming out of Zuriel's mouth at this point.)