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It is absolutely ridiculous that ALL subscribers do not have access to the PDF. I don't have the PDF, while other subscribers have their books.

This happens consistently. For some reason, I'm nearly (with one month's exception) always waiting for the PDF until the day of release or even later. And I can't contact Customer Service to cancel the order because it'll be a month before I get a response.

This is RIDICULOUS, and unacceptable. Incredibly disappointed.


Still no shipping and no PDF, and it's a day before release day. I can't request a cancellation at this point, because of the delay in customer service.

Pretty upset right now.


Today is my birthday. It would be really cool for my order to ship today, and for me to get the PDF's. Hint, hint. :)


I've got experience in Outlook. It can, and does tend to slow and crash when over 2000 emails are in the folder. I don't care what the MS documentation says -- it's wrong.


I'm a little upset, but not at you guys.

My subscription order shipped on June 18th, and it was, as normal, trackable. The last time the tracking info was updated by UPS was on June 22, where it said it was transferring the package to USPS.

Today, I contacted the South Charleston post office hub, who claimed UPS never transferred the package to them, and that I needed to contact UPS. After fighting with the automated system with UPS, which claimed to not understand the tracking info, I spoke with a customer service agent, who said that wasn't a UPS tracking number. I explained it was a UPS Mail Innvations tracking number, and the agent claimed that such a service did not exist.

I then spoke to a supervisor, who said I needed to contact USPS. I told them I already did, and they said to contact UPS. She then said to contact Paizo, and you would contact UPS, which I thought was tremendously stupid since you guys have no control what happens to a package after it leaves your fulfillment center, but here I am.

Is there any way you could find out what's going on with the package? I'm sorry to bring you into this.

Thank you.
- Eric


Has this shipped for anyone yet?


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Zardnaar wrote:


Pretend you walk into a game store with the various RPGs books on the shelf. Are you going to like the 5E covers or the Pathfinder covers?
Or the various other RPG books with nice art. If you are a new player with no ball in the game so to speak do you see the problem?

Note the relative amount of success 5E has had the RPG market is about 4 times bigger now than what it was pre 5E and a lot of that is from new players. Has attendance at PFS gone up or down in your area (or died off?).

If I had to choose between Pathfinder and 5e based SOLELY on the art? Pathfinder wins, hands down. It's not even close.

That doesn't mean the art in 5e is bad, but I'm a comic book guy, and the kinetic energy Pathfinder books have draws my attention to the books, whereas 5e books doesn't have that.

As to why 5e is dominating the market, well, two reasons, one of which is probably the purpose of the Playtest ... 1)5e says "Dungeons and Dragons" on it, which in itself is a draw, and 2)It's easier to pick up for new players. The rules are simplified. Which is what PF2 is trying to accomplish ... eliminated the 10+ years of bloat and start afresh, and by doing so, attract players who might normally not even give it a try. It's the same reason why #1 issues in comics sell more than issue #567: it allows new readers to have a fresh start.

None of which has anything at all to do with the art. But to answer your question, in my humble opinion, the art is MUCH, MUCH better in PF than in 5e.


Crystal Frasier wrote:
nighttree wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:


I apologize.

I was under the impression, that the Monster Hunter´s Handbook was created (at least a little) with the Ironfang Invasion in mind, because of the mentioned monstrous humanoids and abberations in it´s description and the same release date (like with the Giant Slayer´s Handbook released in relative conjunction with the "Giantslayer" AP).
Sorry, Crystal.

Don't stress it....I was under the same impression. It's only logical ;)

Not really. The products are completely unrelated, and we've never said anywhere that they're related.

Seems logical to me, since Paizo usually puts out books in conjunction with new AP releases. I had the same impression Marco had.


Has anyone gotten a shipment confirmation yet, or the PDF? I was told probably this afternoon, but I haven't heard anything yet.


I got my PDF on Monday, but the physical book still hasn't arrived yet.