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This is something out of my most wild (or should I say Savage?) dreams. It's literally my two favorite systems working together. That is definitely something I'll be doing.

I am concerned that the way they seem to be tying together everything under proficiencies - skills, saves, weapons, armor - that there is no real way to adjust anything based on playtest feedback since fixing any one issue will ripple to all the other areas. I think this unified system might actually be a flaw due to creating this constraint. What if it turns out that something that's good for skills just doesn't work when applied to armor - I'm not sure there's a way to resolve that at present.

When I see people commenting that we can't change the rate of skill progression because that would also mess up attacks, saves, and so forth, that seems like an argument against tying them all together.

Yes... That also worries me a lot. It looks like the playtest will simply not be long enough to allow really big changes and that we will be stuck with what was decided beforehand as the playtest was actually design to fix minor problems.

I really want to come back to PF from 5e and i think Paizo can do that as a company after what i've seen latelly i'm losing faith on that as a possibility. It looks like it will still be 5e for me for the years to come.

So, for kicks, let's say there's a level 10 rogue, and a level 10 paladin. They roll stealth checks, and both roll a 10. Assuming the Paladin is untrained and the rogue is a Master. The rogue likely has a high dex, let's call it a 20, and the paladin a low one, say 12.

Rogue=10+2+5+10=27
Paladin=10-2+1+10=23

Sounds close, though if the DC was 20, the rogue definitely is worried less than the paladin, though it still sounds close. But that's knowing little/nothing of skill feats. Let's say a rogue one makes it so if you fail, you get a reflex save to try to dart and hide. Cinematic! Now if they both had rolled a 5, the rogue still gets a chance to hide, while the Paly is busted. I'm not saying necessarily that's how it works. but it might.

Also, they keep saying you adjust your score and the DCs by 1 or 2 or 3. Maybe the Rogue only has to hit a 20, but the Paly needed a 22. Even closer of a call now, but the party isn't screwed on stealth for having a paladin. I like it so far, though need MOAR INFO

Also, i assume that when they say it adds to the DC they mean when somebody makes a test against your DC on a skill, as happened with a Reflex DC save in the playtest podcast.

So imagine a scenario where a lvl 10 rogue which has 16 Dex and is expert at Stealth tries to hide his tracks from a Ranger which is lvl 5, has Wisdom 16 and is Master at Survival.

Ranger would roll 5 (Level) + 2 (Proficiency) + 3 (Wis) for a total of +10 on Survival against the Stealth DC of the rogue which wouldbe 10 (base) + 10 (level) + 1 (Proficiency) + 3 (Dex) for a total of 24. The ranger would need a 14 on his the d20 to spot the tracks left by the rogue.

I strongly dislike this system. It adds more things for the DM to memorize and makes character more similar instead of more customizable and interesting.

Following the example you used a lvl 20 rogue with legendary proficiency would have +23 modifier to Thievery while a lvl 20 paladin untrained on the skill would have +18. The rogue might be able to pick locks, while the paladin won't but when it comes to picking pockets the difference is minimal, since picking pockets does not require training.

I also dislike how adding level to pretty much everything means the values will be through the roof at higher levels. There is a reason why the proficiency system in 5e did not progress each level, it creates a situation where level is the only thing that really matters and everything else is just a minor bonus.

Really hope this changes in the near future because i really like Paizo sincerely want Pathfinder 2e to work for me, but what i'm seeing indicates things are going in another direction. One which i'm sure will not appease neither the fans of Pathfinder, nor the ones that are now playing other games.

It really is amazing how several cultures are mixed with new ideas in the nations of Golarion.

Just about Taldor, i can see the references to the Byzantine and to Spain are many. Just in the military you have:

Ulfen Guard = Obvious parallel to the Byzantine Varangian Guard
Rondeleiro = Spanish word to describe a spanish fighting style
Army of Exploration = The concept is very spanish in itself and i believe it's a translation of a spanish or portuguese term

As a fan of this more crafty aspect of the hobby i love seeing this kind of post here. Usually i only paint minis but i may branch to terrain in the future.

This breaks for crits obviously.

I think you'll make your life simpler if you create/download a dice roller that does all the things automatically.

You can even go as far as not letting players roll, but just let them announce their actions and you roll for them as appropriate. With a program or Excel sheet or something that can be resolved very quickly.

Somehow i forgot about the crits. It's one of those things that are obviously right in front of your face and you don't see until someone points out. How could this be addressed?

And rolling automatically can be an option to the GM but to the players i think it takes something out of the game. Many players just love rolling dice and have many superstitions involving them, to those players making roll using programs feels like taking controls of their action from them. Same thing as having the GM roll perception, stealth and other skills where the characters should not know they failed instead of the players.

I have being thinking for a time about how high level combat can get very slow compared to lower levels and was thinking about ways to attenuate this.

I'm not a very experienced GM, specially with Pathfinder but i've considered the following house rule:

The player rolls only one dice for all his possible attacks with a given weapon and considers the result as his result for all attack rolls for all his attacks with that weapon this turn.

Now for an Example i'll use the 15th lvl sheet for Valeros that came with the Pathfinder dataset for Herolab. He fights with two weapons, a +4 Icy Burst Longsword in his main hand and a +3 Shortsword in his off-hand. His attacks would be respectively:

+4 Longsword: +26/+21/+16
+3 Shortsword: +23/+18/+13

He makes an attack with both weapons and rolls for his Longsword, and has a 18, now we get the lower attack and sum, for a total of 34. Does it hit? If so all the other attacks will hit (they have bigger bonuses), so just roll the damage for all three. If a 34 doesn't hit just sum +5 as it's almost always the difference between attacks. A 39 hits? If so, two attacks hit. If not them see if 44 hits. If not them he misses all attacks.

Now you roll the Shortsword and repeat the process.

It does needs getting used to, but i think it would make things much faster after people get used to it. What you guys think? Can you guys find somewhere where it breaks?

Hope this one is satisfactory! :-)

Garu

The amulet... I'll see if I can do something about it...

Enjoy!

Awesome!

Let me know when you can take more commissions from me as i don't want to monopolize and otherwise overburden you.

Thx Gworeth, you indeed fixed a hairy situation.

Tabris_ wrote:

Nobody interested in taking my requests from page 40?

I would say yes ;-)

Thx! Those are very nice. My players liked them. sadly Calisto's player said i was wrong and his hair is not braided, it's more like dreadlocks. But aside from that those are awesome.

Edit: Player said his hair looks like this: http://yfrog.com/1aferreiroij

Just for the sake of clearness, i'm not asking for you do draw it again.

But Gworeth, if you can draw Garu it would be cool, i liked your style.

Looking forward to see the Goliath.

Nobody interested in taking my requests from page 40?

Whoa! That point buy is way powerful! What's wrong with good old fashioned, 20 pt point but from the Core Rulebook! It's the most solid fair way to keep in line with the existing CRs and still let the players build heroes!

Just add hp if you like that much power!

If the players don't want to leave hp to chance, have them just get half dice +1 hp per level after first.

i.e. d8 => 5 hp per level
d6 => 4 hp, etc.

Good to see you on the boards! I hope that most importantly, you have fun with your gaming!

I think it's the best game i ever dmed. Allowing that point build system is really something e repent but that i don't want to change now the the campaign already began. I'm now giving full HP (Maximum HD) to all monsters to try to balance it a little. My players have that problem where they think that they played with killer gms so much that they find the standard rolls or point build to little but in retrospective i think the system they already used (roll 4d6 as normal but make 3 differente sets of stats and choose the best one) is much more balanced and elegant, but now it's too late for a change.

Finally the Barbarian. Concluding all the active characters in the group (but we are going to have two new players next session).

First, i forgot to tell you guys i'm using the Forgotten Realms setting, specifically the North.

And there goes the first character sheet, the party' druids and only character capable of healing.

Hello. Like the title itself says i'm dming Pathfinder for the first time and decided to share my experiences.

But first let me introduce myself. I'm a 22 years old and i think i began playing RPGs when i was 12. Unlike most people i began playing as a DM, but those were times of improvisation, downloaded adventures of questionable quality and lack of understanding of the rules (BTW, i didn't have any RPG book at the time, just sheet making programs and dice).

Time has passed by and i didn't played (or DMed) as much as i wanted, it happened sporadically but my days of having a constant campaign were long gone.

This changed last year as i got to play again with some of my first players and some people i know for a long, long time. I DMed Savage Worlds and M&M without a lot of preparation, most improvising my way throught it, but never touched my group's favorite game, D&D.

Again it changed with time, putting my indie rpg convictions behind i god pathfinder and decided to DM. The problem? I have players way more experienced than me and really if wasn't all that good at pretending i know what i'm doing i would not be dming at all.

My players have being playing 3.0 for a loooooooong time, mostly because they didn't want to spend money updating to 3.5 and because of some lame personal opinions. They don't have acess to many books but most of them know how to min-max with what they have. In this i have an advantage as i speak english (we are all brazilians and some of my players don't know english very well) and have a big collection of both WoTC, Paizo and 3pp books.

Them we got to playing. And i got to bring down some unbalancing holy cows of the group that i found unbalancing. The must important ones are two:

1 - Ability scores are generated by 3e standard rolling, except it's repeated 3 times as if the players was making 3 character and them he picks the best.
2 - When rolling HD at lvl up only rolls higher than half the dice value are used. So if a cleric lvls up only results of 5, 6, 7 or 8 would count to his hit dice.

I addressed those house rules the following way
1 - Ability scores are bought with a point build system but in the end i devised a incredibly overpowered system and noticed that the group house rule was not that bad at all. The table follows:

2 - As normal, all results counts but i let them reroll 1s. This avoids invincible characters as they already receive bonus HP because of Pathfinder's favorite class rules.

Finally, about 3.5 content i decided that it's allowed but i reserve the right to ban anything i feel is game breaking (as i did to the Frenzied Berseker prc)

Next i'll post the character sheets and i'll tell about or first sessions and how i decided to change things to correct my own mistakes.

Tabris_ wrote:

I'm using a lot your Goblin minis. But the way i cut them (I don't leave white spaces around them, i cut over the black stroke with a hobby knife) makes some more thin parts (like whips) fall down, maybe you should play attention to that.

But i must remember. You bring the minis, i use them. Yes, i'm a sucker for paper minis.

I just cut them out in a rectangle and assemble them in the standard "A-Frame" style like the old Steve Jackson Cardboard Heroes.

It does make a few models with large weapons take a bit more space (horsechopper goblins look a bit bigger), but they work well.

And I lve being able to carry 30 goblins for almost no weight...

The advantage for the way i cut is mostly cosmetically, it looks way better this way.

Here you go Montalve.

and here is the star Tabris.

If either of you want any minor changes let me know

My player said he liked it, Thx Cmh :)

Soft ban with my group too. Right now i have only had to ban the Frenzied Berserker class and the Leap Attack feat in fear it might make our barbarian to overpowered.

Stuart, it seems i only received the Summon Monster one. Could you send me the others? Specially them Summon Nature's Ally one.

Sorry, it seems everything was there i just didn't noticed there were 4 e-mails. So everything is ok now.

I'm using a lot your Goblin minis. But the way i cut them (I don't leave white spaces around them, i cut over the black stroke with a hobby knife) makes some more thin parts (like whips) fall down, maybe you should play attention to that.

But i must remember. You bring the minis, i use them. Yes, i'm a sucker for paper minis.

Stuart, it seems i only received the Summon Monster one. Could you send me the others? Specially them Summon Nature's Ally one.

Could you please send me them all at xKazumax(at)gmail(dot)com ?

Tabris_ wrote:

Nice topic! There goes some requests for you guys.

Some requests for my group, by now those are just 3 characters, 1 npcs and 1 item, but i might come with other things in the future.

So there we go. I'm DMing in the Forgotten Realms setting as it was in the 3e but i'm using Pathfinder RPG. The campaign takes place in the North Sword Coast Region.

Calisto
Human, CG Barbarian 5

Background: Calisto is a Uthgardt Barbarian of the Sky Pony Tribe. After the last heir of his tribe's chief died, leaving the elderly and sick chief without heirs, many man from his tribe began to travel the north trying to prove them selves worth the throne by virtue of their actions. Calisto is one of those man. He searchs for a Sky Pony (Pegasus), a symbol of rulership that he things would make him heir. He also searchs for the mercenary troll that killed his father.
Physical Appearance: He is a huge brawny folk, with a clean face and long black hair which he braids in many small braids. He is always wearing his elven chainmail but covers himself in furs to resist the cold nights of the north, he also uses a cloak made of polar bear fur.
His weapon of choice is the greatsword, but he also carries a battle axe and a magic wood shield that shots wood spikes when a power word is shouted

Garu
Human, NG Druid of Mielliki 5

Background: Garu is a mysterious and silent druid, Calisto is one of his few friends as they met each other when Garu was sent as a druidic emissary to his tribe. He is an orphan, raised by the Master of his Druid Grove, a powerful Bauriaur druid named Hukan. Unknown to him he is one of the last of the lost corrupted tribe of the Blue Bears and is pursued by the corrupted Blue Bear totem that posses as a friendly spirit.
Physical Appearance: He also has long black hair and a clean face but ethinically he looks more like a native american. He dresses in furs and skins, specially in grey (bear, wolf) and/or redish-brown (fox, wolf). He uses a

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I don't have very set image about the corrupted totem as i have for the characters and items. I try to imagine it as a spiritual bear with some ritualistic marks in it's fur, as i have a character that has a Native American appearance and is from that lost Uthgardt tribe i like to think it would have native american twist in this tribe.

Also i like to imagine that the bear has a form he uses to trick Garu (the form he once had before his corruption) and a corrupted form that is his true form now. Remember that he is now one of the many faces of Malar, god of rage, evil lycanthropes and bloodlust. You can find more about him there: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Malar

I'm still not sure if it should have blue fur or flur of another color and blue ritualistic markings.

EDIT: I'm beginning to learn Inkscape, so i might take some item commissions too. Not sure if i'm already good enough for it but i'll try.

Nice topic! There goes some requests for you guys.

Some requests for my group, by now those are just 3 characters and 1 item, but i might come with other things in the future.

So there we go. I'm DMing in the Forgotten Realms setting as it was in the 3e but i'm using Pathfinder RPG. The campaign takes place in the North Sword Coast Region.

Calisto
Human, CG Barbarian 5

Background: Calisto is a Uthgardt Barbarian of the Sky Pony Tribe. After the last heir of his tribe's chief died, leaving the elderly and sick chief without heirs, many man from his tribe began to travel the north trying to prove them selves worth the throne by virtue of their actions. Calisto is one of those man. He searchs for a Sky Pony (Pegasus), a symbol of rulership that he things would make him heir. He also searchs for the mercenary troll that killed his father.
Physical Appearance: He is a huge brawny folk, with a clean face and long black hair which he braids in many small braids. He is always wearing his elven chainmail but covers himself in furs to resist the cold nights of the north, he also uses a cloak made of polar bear fur.
His weapon of choice is the greatsword, but he also carries a battle axe and a magic wood shield that shots wood spikes when a power word is shouted

Garu
Human, NG Druid of Mielliki 5

Background: Garu is a mysterious and silent druid, Calisto is one of his few friends as they met each other when Garu was sent as a druidic emissary to his tribe. He is an orphan, raised by the Master of his Druid Grove, a powerful Bauriaur druid named Hukan. Unknown to him he is one of the last of the lost corrupted tribe of the Blue Bears and is pursued by the corrupted Blue Bear totem that posses as a friendly spirit.
Physical Appearance: He also has long black hair and a clean face but ethinically he looks more like a native american. He dresses in furs and skins, specially in grey (bear, wolf) and/or redish-brown (fox, wolf). He uses a necklace with many kinds of seeds, acorns and other things found in nature that he finds beatiful. He also wears a earring with a feather (only in one ear). He recently adquired boots of the Elvenkind

Midalin
Sun Elf, CG Wizard (Invoker) 5

Background: Midalin is a elven researcher from Evermeet, he was sent to the north to search for a powerful magical tome that was lost during the wars bettwen the ancient elvish kindgoms.
Physical Appearance: Like most sun elfs he has long blond, almost golden, hair that is tied in one braid, white, slighly bronze complexion and is a little taller than a normal human, but has a slender build. Some might say that his kind looks a little otherworldy, because they are the more “pure-blooded” elves.
He also dresses in greenish colors. His arcane bond is to an amulet shaped like a 8-pointed star (which i'm also requesting separated)

[b]Blue Bear Totem[b]

That's the corrupted spirit that pursues Garu. He was once the good totem of the Blue Bear Tribe but was absorbed by Malar, the god of rage, bloodthirsty and licantropy. Now with his tribe scattered and defeated he tries to corrupt Garu to reforge his tribe.

Reference Material:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/4/44/Uthgar_symbol .jpg
Totems of the Uthgardt tribes. the second (from left to right) is the Sky Pony one

http://www.playingzone.com/images/jeux/pc/prey_pc_pack.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Actualprey.jpg
Garu's player said his character looks similar to Domasi, main character of the game Prey

Sorry guys, i just noticed this thread is about itens only. So please draw only the Talisman.

I would be nice if a moderator could delete my first post.

This is the item:

Midalin's Talisman

That's the elvish invoker arcane focus (From the Arcane bond class feature), it's a eight-pointed star given to him in Evermeet. The play didn't speak much more about it, but i like to think the eight points represent the eight schools of magic and somehow his favorite scholl, invocation is highlighted.

Nice topic! There goes some requests for you guys.

Some requests for my group, by now those are just 3 characters, 1 npcs and 1 item, but i might come with other things in the future.

So there we go. I'm DMing in the Forgotten Realms setting as it was in the 3e but i'm using Pathfinder RPG. The campaign takes place in the North Sword Coast Region.

Calisto
Human, CG Barbarian 5

Background: Calisto is a Uthgardt Barbarian of the Sky Pony Tribe. After the last heir of his tribe's chief died, leaving the elderly and sick chief without heirs, many man from his tribe began to travel the north trying to prove them selves worth the throne by virtue of their actions. Calisto is one of those man. He searchs for a Sky Pony (Pegasus), a symbol of rulership that he things would make him heir. He also searchs for the mercenary troll that killed his father.
Physical Appearance: He is a huge brawny folk, with a clean face and long black hair which he braids in many small braids. He is always wearing his elven chainmail but covers himself in furs to resist the cold nights of the north, he also uses a cloak made of polar bear fur.
His weapon of choice is the greatsword, but he also carries a battle axe and a magic wood shield that shots wood spikes when a power word is shouted

Garu
Human, NG Druid of Mielliki 5

Background: Garu is a mysterious and silent druid, Calisto is one of his few friends as they met each other when Garu was sent as a druidic emissary to his tribe. He is an orphan, raised by the Master of his Druid Grove, a powerful Bauriaur druid named Hukan. Unknown to him he is one of the last of the lost corrupted tribe of the Blue Bears and is pursued by the corrupted Blue Bear totem that posses as a friendly spirit.
Physical Appearance: He also has long black hair and a clean face but ethinically he looks more like a native american. He dresses in furs and skins, specially in grey (bear, wolf) and/or redish-brown (fox, wolf). He uses a necklace with many kinds of seeds, acorns and other things found in nature that he finds beatiful. He also wears a earring with a feather (only in one ear). He recently adquired boots of the Elvenkind

Midalin
Sun Elf, CG Wizard (Invoker) 5

Background: Midalin is a elven researcher from Evermeet, he was sent to the north to search for a powerful magical tome that was lost during the wars bettwen the ancient elvish kindgoms.
Physical Appearance: Like most sun elfs he has long blond, almost golden, hair that is tied in one braid, white, slighly bronze complexion and is a little taller than a normal human, but has a slender build. Some might say that his kind looks a little otherworldy, because they are the more “pure-blooded” elves.
He also dresses in greenish colors. His arcane bond is to an amulet shaped like a 8-pointed star (which i'm also requesting separated)

Blue Bear Totem

That's the corrupted spirit that pursues Garu. He was once the good totem of the Blue Bear Tribe but was absorbed by Malar, the god of rage, bloodthirsty and licantropy. Now with his tribe scattered and defeated he tries to corrupt Garu to reforge his tribe.

Midalin's Talisman

That's his arcane focus (From the Arcane bond class feature), it's a eight-pointed star given to him in Evermeet. The play didn't speak much more about it, but i like to think the eight points represent the eight schools of magic and somehow his favorite scholl, invocation is highlighted.

Would be cool to also convert the Holy Warrior from the Book of the Righteous.