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skizzerz wrote:


Thanks for engaging in a thoughtful response! The PDF prices for the core rules line is pretty good ($10 per PDF), but you get less of a deal for every other line. Paizo frequently puts out discount codes you can use, but these generally only give you 10% off, which is a far cry from a 75% reduction compared to the print product price that some are calling for.

Out of curiosity, what do you think a fair price for a PDF would be for someone who already owns a print copy? Additionally, how would you envision such a system to work (in other words, how would you make it so that people who have legitimately purchased print copies can get the PDF at a discounted rate, while people who have not need to buy it at full price)?

You are right - the core rulebooks are not too bad, but I really want to use RealmWorks to run AP's which I have in hard copy - and at $16 a pdf plus the RW copy (x6!!!!) is far too much when i have already bought paper copies.

As for a mechanism - i suggested that anyone with a electronic receipt could forward it to Paizo to get a discount voucher code. Anyone who buys from bricks and mortar could get the owner (i am guessing most supporters of these shops have a relationship with the store staff) to email Paizo on their behalf. I am assuming Paizo keeps track of its distributors for this model though!


skizzerz wrote:
Stuart Waring wrote:
Galymyr wrote:
I own thousands of dollars of physical Pathfinder products. So I either pay for the same content twice or abandon my collection of physical copies. What a crappy position to put your customers in. I'd totally sign up for for the subscriptions but the prices aren't even remotely competitive with their resellers and they charge shipping, that's so 1999. #firstworld problems

I'm in exactly the same position. I have just about every rule book and bestiary they have published, plus a couple of the adventure paths. The books are wonderful and lovely and I do not really want to go away from them.

I also had the same problem with subscription and buying books direct from Paizo as I live in NZ, and shipping costs became prohibitive.

I am deeply frustrated as I have diligently supported both Paizo and Lone Wolf for several years now (I know for some it is closer to a decade!), and wish to continue to do so, but unless there is a change in this policy I cannot see myself continuing to do so as I want to continue to buy hardcovers, but I am not willing to pay for something 3 times. I would happily buy hard copy then pay for content in Realm Works, but this is not a viable option as it stands distressingly.

Surely Paizo could find a way to allow this? I have electronic receipts for all my hard copy books, but for those who use FLGS perhaps a channel can be set up so that the owners (who i would guess Paizo have given a retailer ID/account) can confirm purchases for their customers. Messy, sure, but as a one off exercise and a change in the whole voucher code in book policy it would make a lot of folk happy.

PS: I would happily pay for PDFs if they were heavily discounted (ie 75% off) for those who can show proof of purchase, i would not expect Paizo just to jive them away!

I understand your frustrations, but keep in mind that this policy is a wash for you -- in your particular case (with Hero Lab thrown in, since it's excluded from this...

Skizzerz, I understand your argument and see its merits for additional supplementary products (and the transparancy argument is indeed a good one), but the bottom line is that I have spent more than $1000 on hard copy, and to replicate that for RW etc I would need to spend the same again for content I have already paid for. Perhaps my real bugbear is simply that the PDF copies are so very expensive given that I own the physical copies already. Again I would not advocate them being free, but i simply cannot afford to use RW in the way i had planned!


Galymyr wrote:
I own thousands of dollars of physical Pathfinder products. So I either pay for the same content twice or abandon my collection of physical copies. What a crappy position to put your customers in. I'd totally sign up for for the subscriptions but the prices aren't even remotely competitive with their resellers and they charge shipping, that's so 1999. #firstworld problems

I'm in exactly the same position. I have just about every rule book and bestiary they have published, plus a couple of the adventure paths. The books are wonderful and lovely and I do not really want to go away from them.

I also had the same problem with subscription and buying books direct from Paizo as I live in NZ, and shipping costs became prohibitive.

I am deeply frustrated as I have diligently supported both Paizo and Lone Wolf for several years now (I know for some it is closer to a decade!), and wish to continue to do so, but unless there is a change in this policy I cannot see myself continuing to do so as I want to continue to buy hardcovers, but I am not willing to pay for something 3 times. I would happily buy hard copy then pay for content in Realm Works, but this is not a viable option as it stands distressingly.

Surely Paizo could find a way to allow this? I have electronic receipts for all my hard copy books, but for those who use FLGS perhaps a channel can be set up so that the owners (who i would guess Paizo have given a retailer ID/account) can confirm purchases for their customers. Messy, sure, but as a one off exercise and a change in the whole voucher code in book policy it would make a lot of folk happy.

PS: I would happily pay for PDFs if they were heavily discounted (ie 75% off) for those who can show proof of purchase, i would not expect Paizo just to jive them away!


That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

Including the Critical Master ability, and you get 960 damage on a confirmed critical hit. Nasty.


Covent wrote:

I would argue that foe biting is phrased such that it should be applied last after all other calculations, but otherwise agree with Buri.

Basically a crit would be for you (((5d6 + 90) * 4) * 2) at the cost of two myth power.

Thanks Covent - can you please run me through how you got the *4 then *2 at the end?

Even on an average dice roll (15), you would be talking about 840 damage - still enough to kill all the CR 30 monsters in a single blow.


Buri Reborn wrote:

Things that double multiple times don't straight double. They simply increase the multiplier by one. So, 2 x2 abilities are really a x3 ability.

Getting Started, CRB wrote:
Multiplying: When you are asked to apply more than one multiplier to a roll, the multipliers are not multiplied by one another. Instead, you combine them into a single multiplier, with each extra multiple adding 1 less than its value to the first multiple. For example, if you are asked to apply a ×2 multiplier twice, the result would be ×3, not ×4.

This is the logic I think I have applied above, so are my calculations correct?

Thanks for the input


Hi All,

We are playing with the mythic rules, and i am curious about how certain abilities stack together.

Note that this is a with a level 20 Tier 10 character.

The things i am particularly interested in are Perfect Strike (path ability), the Foe-Biting ability that can be placed on a Major Artifact Legendary item (My theoretical character is wielding a +5 Holy, keen sword), and the Critical Master path ability

Foe Biting doubles the damage, including the 2d6 vs evil (for evil creatures only obviously)

Perfect Strike also doubles damage AND raises the critical multiplier by 1.

Being as i have Improved Vital Strike and Power attack, my normal damage is 3d6 + 90 (+2d6 vs evil)

i see a number of possibilities all of which are fairly ludicrous (best one outlined below).

The best case scenario: Foe Biting & Perfect strike add to x3 (rather than x4 - think i read about this somewhere in core rules), which is then tripled by the crit multpilier, giving a total of 1080 damage for a single hit (3d6 + 2d6 maximised by Crit master = 30 + 90 = 120, x3 (Foe Biting + Perfect Strike) = 360 x 3 (Crit multiplier) = 1080!!!!)

For the record that is enough to kill all CR30 monsters in a single hit.

I know it could simply be banned as a house rule, but if it is possible i would love to try it once just to see my GM's face.

Any ideas on how to resolve this (or a reference to a core rule specifically preventing this kind of stacking specifically sought!)

Stuart


Hi All,

We are playing with the mythic rules, and i am curious about how certain abilities stack together.

Note that this is a with a level 20 Tier 10 character.

The things i am particularly interested in are Perfect Strike (path ability), the Foe-Biting ability that can be placed on a Major Artifact Legendary item (My theoretical character is wielding a +5 Holy, keen sword), and the Critical Master path ability

Foe Biting doubles the damage, including the 2d6 vs evil (for evil creatures only obviously)

Perfect Strike also doubles damage AND raises the critical multiplier by 1.

Critical Master maximises all rolls on a critical hit

Being as i have Improved Vital Strike and Power attack, my normal damage is 3d6 + 90 (+2d6 vs evil)

i see a number of possibilities all of which are fairly ludicrous (best one outlined below).

The best case scenario: Foe Biting & Perfect strike add to x3 (rather than x4 - think i read about this somewhere in core rules), which is then tripled by the crit multpilier, giving a total of 1080 damage for a single hit (3d6 + 2d6 maximised by Crit master = 30 + 90 = 120, x3 (Foe Biting + Perfect Strike) = 360 x 3 (Crit multiplier) = 1080!!!!)

For the record that is enough to kill all CR30 monsters in a single hit.

I know it could simply be banned as a house rule, but if it is possible i would love to try it once just to see my GM's face.

Any ideas on how to resolve this (or a reference to a core rule specifically preventing this kind of stacking specifically sought!)

Stuart