Jayder22 wrote:
First I will point out this does seem to be a general rules question, and thus would be better posted in the rules forum. I know you are asking specifically for PFS, but we use the same rules as such this wouldn't be a PFS specific ruling but a general game ruling.
If it needs to get punted over to general rules, that's fine. I posted here because he said he'd reconsider if I got other VL/VC's that said yes. I just assumed there were more around the PFS Rules forum than the general rules forum.
Jayder22 wrote:
I don't believe these would work together. Swashbuckler Martial Training says to "select one martial weapon". The Elven Branched Spear is not a martial weapon. You may be treating it as one due to other abilities, but it is not actually one.
So if an Elven wizard wanted to use an Elven Branched Spear would they take Martial Weapon Proficiency or Exotic? I realize both feats achieve the same result, but if Martial Weapon Proficiency would also work, then I again don't see why this combo doesn't work. Being "treated" as a martial weapon I believe also means it now falls under the Martial Weapon chart as opposed to the Exotic Weapon chart.
RealAlchemy wrote:
So, by that GM's logic my APG elven swashbuckler rogue (that I took to seeker level in PFS and no GM so much as raised an eyebrow at) was done incorrectly because as an elf I treated the elven curveblade as a martial weapon and used it as the weapon I chose for the AT?
No, I brought that up and he said that would work because the Elves permanently treat it as a martial weapon. which is where I get hung up.
Weapon Familiarity: Elves are proficient with longbows (including composite longbows), longswords, rapiers, and shortbows (including composite shortbows), and treat any weapon with the word "elven" in its name as a martial weapon.
Cracked Opalescent White Pyramid Ioun Stone:
The stone grants the wearer weapon familiarity with the keyed weapon (it is treated as a martial weapon for him).
Emphasis mine. Due to the wording being near identical and ioun stone modifiers being considered permanent unless removed I have a hard time figuring out why this wouldn't work. He's a fair VL and friend, but I definitely disagree with him on this.