Weapon Master's Handbook wrote:
Copy/pasted direct from the book (no, I am not going to bother with more formatting).
P.19 of the WMH has a feat (called Advanced Weapon Training) that requires Fighter 5th and Weapon Training that allows you to take AWT options. Can normally only be taken once every five levels. WMs can take it a 4th and beyond and taking it as a fighter bonus combat feat does not count against the once per five levels limit.
Except that, by the FAQ, the feat would have no effect as the Weapon Master would then have no "Weapon Training modifier" to base anything off of. The exemption noted does not state that the modifier applies, just that the benefits (if any) only work on the chosen weapon. Either the Weapon Master has Weapon Training or not. Also, the class feature referred to is just Weapon Training, not Fighter Weapon Training. There is no class feature called "Fighter Weapon Training", and such a class feature would not work with the gloves or this feat. A Weapon Master is a Fighter with a class feature called Weapon Training. I am not arguing that they have the ability to get the swap outs like a normal fighter (they clearly don't) or that they have the same weapon training as said normal fighter. Just that they are a fighter with a class feature named weapon training, and as such meet all requirements for the Gloves of Dueling (which only specifies "weapon training") and the benefits of the feat. I see nothing in the FAQ that would preclude that. Also, please note that I am posting after working on a night off (shift 6 of 5) and while rather ticked (because of that). Any incoherency or anger should be attributed to that and not the topic at hand or any posters.
Except that the feat has an explicit call out for the archetype, allowing them to take it, but does not then say anything like "and their weapon training counts as weapon training" and Gloves of Dueling only says that if the PC has the weapon training class feature, not if they have the fighter weapon training class feature. Those two things to me say that the archetype, the gloves, and the feat all work together. |