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p. 235 Storm Hag

naming -- shouldn't it be "Hag, Storm"?

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I'm not far into B5 yet, but wanted to say that so far I've found nothing that jumped out at me, and my initial impression is that there's far fewer errors or unclear rules.

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p. 257 Turul

Feat Pre Req: Deflect Arrows is missing prereq feat Improved Unarmed Strike

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p. 272 Vukodlak

"Terrifying Gaze" special ability has no type (Su, Ex, or Sp)

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p. 285 Yangethe

stat block order -- "Psychic Magic" should come before "Spell-Like Abilities"

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p. 289 Zygomind

minor formatting-- should be semicolon between "Defensive Abilities" and DR not comma "Defensive Abilities all-around vision, DR"


p.59
The Wood Colossus has 3 slams... but has a humanoid shape... Where does the 3rd slam come from?

p.77
The Devastator attacks using "vile arms", but in the description, it's written "vile strikes". While they are the same, it is a little mistake to have 2 names.

p.134
I feel like something should be added that the Grim Reaper is constantly under the effect of haste.

p.166
The "SOLAR PITRI (AGNISHVATTA)" name is long enough to push one line down the CR rating :P

p.230
If the Shen has "all the natural attacks of a true dragon", where are the wing attacks? Something is missing that the Shen doesn't get them.

p.246
The Danava has 3 slams... What's the 3rd one if it only has 2 fists?

p.276
Shouldn't the Narwhal have a standard gore attack?


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JiCi wrote:

p.246
The Danava has 3 slams... What's the 3rd one if it only has 2 fists?

Oh my.


Nightterror wrote:
JiCi wrote:

p.246
The Danava has 3 slams... What's the 3rd one if it only has 2 fists?

Oh my.

Yeah, don't ask XS


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Sounds like Gorbacz's kind of monster:-D

He's always saying the need to be more risque:-D


Beside the fact that I don't have a personal copy of Bestiary 5 yet, I'm really unsure if I want to check this one (even assuming I'll have time). Mythic rules were already enough of an added pain, but now psychic stuff too... and even worse, psychic Dragons...

Anyway, I can't check at the moment, so I don't even recall its name, but reading here and there I saw that Aeon who has four ranged that deal 10d6 force damage (10d6 each, not in total) and is, if I recall correctly, CR 18.
The attacks don't even have a short range. The guy can basically bomb from afar anyone and anything, including incorporeal beings, and there's little defense against force damage; so isn't either the damage too high or the CR too low (maybe even just for some typo)? That ability alone makes it a devastating war engine no less dangerous than a Balor. Possibly more.

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JoelF847 wrote:
I'm not far into B5 yet, but wanted to say that so far I've found nothing that jumped out at me, and my initial impression is that there's far fewer errors or unclear rules.

Awesome!


JiCi wrote:

p.59

The Wood Colossus has 3 slams... but has a humanoid shape... Where does the 3rd slam come from?
...

p.246
The Danava has 3 slams... What's the 3rd one if it only has 2 fists?

See this thread.


Mark Seifter wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
I'm not far into B5 yet, but wanted to say that so far I've found nothing that jumped out at me, and my initial impression is that there's far fewer errors or unclear rules.
Awesome!

I haven't even STARTED reading B5 yet, but I have to say that the editing is horrible. I have yet to see ONE SINGLE MONSTER without rampant errors!

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Sarcasm Dragon wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
I'm not far into B5 yet, but wanted to say that so far I've found nothing that jumped out at me, and my initial impression is that there's far fewer errors or unclear rules.
Awesome!
I haven't even STARTED reading B5 yet, but I have to say that the editing is horrible. I have yet to see ONE SINGLE MONSTER without rampant errors!

Awww man! ;)

But more seriously, having seen how many little low-impact errors that every bestiary and monster book seems to slip through, and specifically having been the person to go through the recent bestiary errata and check to see which ones in these threads were correct (while applying the others we found elsewhere), I tried to use my knowledge of what types of errors were common in these threads to wipe them out early and with swift vengeance. Also, I think I caught all examples of the not-an-error but personal pet peeve of outsiders and aberrations that don't take ranks in their flexible class skills while taking ranks in other skills (for outsiders) or other Knowledge skills (for aberrations).

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This book has too few robots. Paizo errata now.

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p. 7 Aatheriexa

Skill Points Unused : 3

Skills Ranks: 104 = 0 class skills +104 race skills
Total Ranks Used 101
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Acrobatics +21 = +13 ranks, +5 Dex, +3 class skill
Diplomacy +17 = +13 ranks, +4 Cha
Fly +20 = +8 ranks, +5 Dex, +3 class skill +0 Medium +4 good
Knowledge (arcana) +14 = +7 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +28 = +13 ranks, +0 Wis, +3 class skill +3 SkillFocus +6
racial mod+3 SkillFocus-Perception 10 ranks
Sense Motive +13 = +13 ranks, +0 Wis
Spellcraft +15 = +8 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Stealth +21 = +13 ranks, +5 Dex, +3 class skill +0 Medium
Use Magic Device +17 = +13 ranks, +4 Cha

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p. 8 Aeon, Lipika

CMB: Computed: 31 Stat Block: +30
24 BAB +1 SizeMod +6 Strength AbilityMod

CMD: Computed: 54 Stat Block: 53
10 +24 BAB +6 StrModUsed +6 DexMod +1 SizeMod +1 DodgeBonus +6 ACBonus-1 negative AC mods

many skills are over the HD max such as
Skill Over HD Max:Knowledge (arcana): Computed: 27 HD: 24

Skill Points Exceeded : -5
Skills Ranks: 288 = 0 class skills +288 race skills
Total Ranks Used 293
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Bluff +33 = +24 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill
Diplomacy +30 = +21 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill*
Fly +41 = +26 ranks, +6 Dex, +3 class skill -2 Large +8 perfect
Intimidate +30 = +21 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill*
Perception +34 = +24 ranks, +7 Wis, +3 class skill
Sense Motive +34 = +24 ranks, +7 Wis, +3 class skill
Spellcraft +20 = +11 ranks, +6 Int, +3 class skill*
Knowledge (dungeoneering) +20 = +2 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (engineering) +20 = +2 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (geography) +20 = +2 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (local) +20 = +2 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (nature) +20 = +2 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (arcana) +45 = +27 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (history) +45 = +27 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (nobility) +45 = +27 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all
Knowledge (planes) +45 = +24 ranks, +6 Int, +3 class skill +12 extension of all
Knowledge (religion) +45 = +27 ranks, +6 Int +12 extension of all


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Someone give this guy a job already!

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p. 10 Aeon, Othaos

deflection should be +1 not +2
"An aeon’s void form grants it a deflection bonus equal to 1/4 its Hit
Dice (rounded down)."
HD = 6, 6 /4 = 1

CMB: Computed: 10 Stat Block: +9
6 BAB 0 SizeMod +4 Strength AbilityMod

contingent on the deflection being properly adjusted to +1. If it's supposed to be +2, then the CMD is indeed 1 low
CMD: Computed: 26 Stat Block: 25
10 +6 BAB +4 StrModUsed +3 DexMod +0 SizeMod +1 DodgeBonus +2 ACBonus

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p. 12 Agathion, Cervinal

SLA DC-dismissal: Computed: 19 Stat Block: 18
10 +5 Spell.SLA_Level +4 AbilityBonus

SLA DC-plane shift: Computed: 21 Stat Block: 19
10 +7 Spell.SLA_Level +4 AbilityBonus


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p. 19 Android

incorrect XP for given CR of 1
XP CR: Computed: 400 Stat Block: 200

Correction: it's not the XP listing that is incorrect, it's the CR. A humanoid level 1 character (with PC class) is a CR 1/2 unless the race has an explicit CR modifier, which is not the case for androids.#

The same is true for the ghoran on page 119.


Why in the Peuchen entry there it starts with saying the creature is enormous/gigantic/huge (something like that) but the actual creature is only medium sized?


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Well, it's a snake. I'd say Medium-sized snakes qualify as "enormous".

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p. 13 Agathion, Reptial

Feat Count: Computed: 3 Stat Block: 4
0 classes +3 Hit Dice

Skill:Knowledge (nature): Computed: 4 Stat Block: 6
Skill:Knowledge (nobility): Computed: 4 Stat Block: 6
Skill:Knowledge (religion): Computed: 4 Stat Block: 6

Skill Over HD Max:Intimidate: Computed: 8 HD: 5
Skill Over HD Max:Spellcraft: Computed: 8 HD: 5

Skill Points Exceeded : -1
Skills Ranks: 50 = 0 class skills +50 race skills
Total Ranks Used 51
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Acrobatics +10 = +4 ranks, +3 Dex, +3 class skill*
Climb +9 = +0 ranks, +1 Str +8 climb speed
Diplomacy +9 = +2 ranks, +4 Cha, +3 class skill*
Intimidate +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Cha
Knowledge (arcana) +9 = +5 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (planes) +12 = +5 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +11 = +5 ranks, +3 Wis, +3 class skill
Sense Motive +11 = +5 ranks, +3 Wis, +3 class skill
Spellcraft +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Stealth +15 = +5 ranks, +3 Dex, +3 class skill +4 Small
Knowledge (geography) +6 = +2 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (history) +6 = +2 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (nature) +4 = +0 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (nobility) +4 = +0 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (religion) +4 = +0 ranks, +4 Int


p.264

Is it me, or is the Earth Veela missing a Burrow speed?

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p. 20 Anemos

CMD: Computed: 56 Stat Block: 57
10 +22 BAB +4 StrModUsed +10 DexMod +0 SizeMod +10 ACBonus

Skill Over HD Max:Perform [wind instruments]: Computed: 24 HD: 22
Skill Over HD Max:Use Magic Device: Computed: 25 HD: 22

the "wind orchestra" ability gives him effective and infinite masterwork instrument on perform (wind) (I bet it was supposed to give him a bonus discretionary class skill too
Skill Points Exceeded : -5
Skills Ranks: 264 = 0 class skills +264 race skills
Total Ranks Used 269
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Acrobatics +35 = +22 ranks, +10 Dex, +3 class skill*
Fly +43 = +22 ranks, +10 Dex, +3 class skill +0 Medium +8 perfect
Knowledge (geography) +31 = +22 ranks, +6 Int, +3 class skill*
Knowledge (nature) +31 = +22 ranks, +6 Int, +3 class skill*
Knowledge (planes) +31 = +22 ranks, +6 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +33 = +22 ranks, +8 Wis, +3 class skill
Perform (wind instruments) +37 = +24 ranks, +10 Cha, +3 class skill*
Sense Motive +33 = +22 ranks, +8 Wis, +3 class skill
Spellcraft +28 = +22 ranks, +6 Int
Stealth +35 = +22 ranks, +10 Dex, +3 class skill +0 Medium
Survival +30 = +22 ranks, +8 Wis
Use Magic Device +35 = +25 ranks, +10 Cha

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p. 22 Angel, Balisse

SLA DC-hold person: Computed: 17 Stat Block: 16
10 +3 Spell.SLA_Level +4 AbilityBonus


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pg 185 Ophiotaurus:

The DC for Confounding Coils is wrong. Listed DC is 21. It should be either 22 or 26.

10+Wis(8)= base of 18. Then either +8 for 1/2 HD or +4 for Spell level. I would lean towards 26 since it is an Su instead of Sp.

DC for trample is listed at 27, should be 33 (10+8[HD]+15[Str]), also Damage should be 2d6 (garg slam dmg per universal monster rules)+23(1.5x15 Str mod). Although the 4d6 could be a mythic ability.

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p 45 bone ship:

text says "even known to continue the chase on land, the many bones of their hull pulling them over the ground." However, it only has a swim speed, so how does it do that?

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p. 47 Brain Mole Monarch:

The monarch second sight acts as thought sense, but the regular brain mole has second sight that acts as blindsight. While these are similar, thoughtsense has additional limitations for creatures with under 3 Intelligence. Shouldn't these be the same, or at least have the monarch have the version with fewer restrictions?

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p. 51 Blood Caterpillar:

what does it turn into after it's cocoon? A particular giant butterfly or moth? some monster not yet created? The horn caterpillar says it stays in caterpillar form forever, but not the blood one.

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p. 59 Wood Colussus:

Why does selective the antimagic aura have a saving throw DC and duration? Isn't it constant? The spell antimagic field doesn't have a saving throw.

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p 64 Kabandha Cyclops:

How does it wear a breastplate? Wouldn't that cover it's face and blind it and prevent it from using its bite attack? The description of the monster says it wears open shirts and armored coats, which wouldn't interfere with its face.

Also, its treasure says it has a greatclub, but its attack line in the stat block says 2 slams and a bite.

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p. 75 Cambion Demon:

Sadistic Strike ability is not applied to its stat block - the scimitar attack should have a threat range of 15-20 from this.

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p. 119 Ghoran:

Is the light dependent feature correct? Does that mean that if it's cloudy for a week it will take 7d4 points of Constitution damage and die? That seems a lot harsher than regular plants when there's a week of storms an no sunlight.

Also, for the Ghorus seed ability, is there anything preventing a ghoran from planting multiple seeds, as long as not more than its HD due to the gaining of the negative levels? When the first one hatches, the original Ghorus dies, but when the others hatch, would the re-born versions die, since they weren't the ones who planted the seeds?


p. 134 Should the Grim Reaper's Death Strike ability be stated as being a death effect? You know, Save or Die.


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p 64 Kabandha Cyclops:

How does it wear a breastplate? Wouldn't that cover it's face and blind it and prevent it from using its bite attack?

It wears one of those breastplates they make for female barbarians that somehow provides full protection without covering much skin.


p. 276 Blue Whale
Hold Breath (Ex) A blue whale can hold its breath a number of rounds equal to 10 times its Constitution score.

Wait... "rounds"? Don't you guys mean "minutes"?

p. 276 Narwhal
Hold Breath (Ex) Narwhals are expert deep divers, and a narwhal can hold its breath a number of minutes equal to 2 times its Constitution score.

The standard ability stats "6 times its Constitution score." If Narwhals are "expert deep divers", why should they hold their breaths 3 times less?


A human can survive underwater for 2 rounds per point of Constitution according to the Suffocation rules. (2 minutes at 10 Constitution.)

The Narwhal one is 2 minutes per Con point - that works out at 28 minutes.

The Blue Whale one works out at 250 rounds or 25 minutes.

Real life whales rarely stay more than 20 minutes underwater, so it's fairly realistic.

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p. 26 Animate Hair

It would appear that the DexMod got changed at some point, but it didn't propagate to all the derived stats.

Init Mod: Computed: 5 Stat Block: +4
+1 Dex Mod +4 Improved Initiative

CMB: Computed: 0 Stat Block: -1
1 BAB -2 SizeMod +1 Dexterity AbilityMod

Skill:Climb: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 8

Skills Ranks: 2 = 0 class skills +2 race skills
Dex used for tiny or smaller in skill-Climb
Total Ranks Used 2
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Climb +9 = +0 ranks, +1 Dex +8 climb speed
Disguise +4 = +2 ranks, +2 Cha

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p. 28 Anunnaki

Large creature with Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
should be more?

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p. 32 Apkallu

Feats: Mythic Crafter is a mythic feat and should have an "M" superscript

SLA DC-plane shift: Computed: 26 Stat Block: 24
10 +7 Spell.SLA_Level +9 AbilityBonus

Melee Attack Bonus-Bite: Computed: 27 Stat Block: 24
23 BAB +10 AbilityBonus -1 SizeMod -5 secondary

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p. 161 Lusca - Does poison only apply as part of the constrict damage and not with the actual tentacle attack if it doesn't successfully grab? Seems odd that the tentacles wouldn't if the constrict does.

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p. 177 Mummy Lord - to permanently destroy without rejuvenation activating requires consecrate, hallow, and dispel evil in consecutive rounds or the mummy lord rises 1-10 days later. However, hallow has a 24 hour casting time, which a) is hard to time inbetween the casting of consecrate and dispel evil, and b) means 10% of the time the mummy lord rejuvenates before you can even finish casting hallow.

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p. 184 nullmind -

1) What range do mind spores have? They are listed as a ranged attack but no range is given.

2) Mind drain aura should indicate that it allows control if the Intelligence damage equals or is greater than the Intelligence score I'm assuming, not greater than the score as written.

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p. 187 Ostovite - why isn't its bite damage applying the Strength penalty of -3?

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p. 309 Sahkil subtype - the look of fear ability doesn't really need to mention that Sahkils are immune to it, since their subtype is already immune to fear. Same applies to the Kimenhul Sahkil Eternal Rest ability on p. 215.

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p. 241 Taxidermic Creature - the understuffed defect is off. It states that only creatures of Medium size or smaller can have this defect, but it grants half the bonus hp based on size. However, Tiny or smaller creatures don't get bonus hp based on size. Either this should be limited to Medium and Small creatures, or Small and larger creatures to cover all sizes that get bonus hp, or Medium and larger creatures if Small was supposed to be excluded.

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p. 242 giant termite and termite swarm - There are some odd inconsistencies between these. The swarm has the lingering sting special ability, but the giant termite does not. Also, is the swarm supposed to be blind, as indicated in the weaknesses, because it has darkvision which seems to contradict this. Also, if the swarm is blind, I would guess the giant termite would be also.

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