Cole Deschain wrote: Yeah, the fact that a Succubus can kill the average farmer with a smooch kind of limits their ability to meddle in low-grade temptations over time... That's just being uncreative. Think of all you can do with just words - suggestions, promises, and tempting implications. The kiss is just the coup de grace.
thecursor wrote: Not that I'm not excited but since I play PFS mostly and I love new archetypes...I am dead certain none of them are gonna make em into organized play. At least one of the prestige classes here, the diabolist, is already legal for PFS. Some of the deities are as well. With such a major product release, who knows - there may even be a few new legalizations*. After all, if they'll let the destructive followers of Rovagug join the Society, a priestess of Nocticula shouldn't be that hard a sell. *: This is merely speculation on my part; I have no insider information to support this notion.
Dragon78 wrote: I think oni fit the mortal transformation thing better then kytons and it is not just mostly humans but any humanoids can "play". I'm... really not sure why you would think that. Kytons are pretty much 100% about apotheosis into greater forms as a philosophy, usually through pain and torment, and especially where mortality is concerned. Their most common representatives are called "evangelists", after all. The theme of transfiguration is evident both in their inspirations and in the forms and themes of many of Pathfinder's kytons. Oni, by contrast, are evil spirits made flesh. They take on humanoid forms to experience the hedonistic pleasures of the physical world, but there's no particular reason they'd want to turn humanoids into oni - in fact, that means less food/drink/companionship for them. At best, they might want slaves or minions... and humanoids serve just fine in that regard as they are. (It also bears noting that the only known example of a humanoid becoming an oni was presented as a terrible curse.)
dharkus wrote: what we really need is a way to become a Qlippoth, Demodand or Div Well, there's already a way to become a qlippoth. See the iathavos's Bestiary entry for more information. Spoiler:
I know it's not what you're looking for. Of all the outsider races, though, qlippoth are the least appropriate for that sort of thing.
Any transformation into a qlippoth should be completely destructive of mortal identity. It's happened in an AP, and that should serve as a good example of how such transfiguration should play out. As for becoming a div, one of the APs features an NPC who became one through ritual infection. So there's definitely precedent. No method of demodand transformation is currently known. I suppose it's not impossible, though...
Marco Massoudi wrote:
It must be counting nascent demon lords and such; I was only counting those with full obediences and boons in BotD2, from Abraxas to Zura. |