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Kalindlara wrote:Sounds like Trelmarixian's style, yeah.*reads section*
Yep.
Yep, it's a practical if watered down (marginally) example of his longstanding flavor element of having placed bits of himself into his own servitor caste and harbingers like a latent, lysogenic virus. Of course the sensory bombardment is arguably driving him bonkers. :)

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*wonders if Luthorne will be doing his usual crunch section...*
Well, I wasn't really planning on it, since a lot of it is just obediences, but if you'd like...
Contracts: Pact of Blood-Taking (CR 5), Shadow Coin Bargain (CR 11), Vow of Heartrime (CR 13), Curse of the Ever-Soul (CR 20)
Domains: Scalykind, Void
Drugs adyton (2,000 gp), daemon seed (1,000 gp)
Feats: Chain Mastery (Combat), Damned Disciple, Damned Soldier, Dance of Chains (Combat), Deadly Horns (Combat), Fiendish Obedience, Fiendish Serpent, Fiendish Wings, Infernal Legist, Nightmare Chains, Sacrificial Potency, Soul-Powered Magic
Fiendish Obediences (Fiendish Divinities): Abraxas, Ahriman, Aldinach, Andirifkhu, Angazhan, Apollyon, Ardad Lili, Areshkagal, Asmodeus, Baalzebul, Baphomet, Barbatos, Belial, Charon, Cyth-V'sug, Dagon, Deskari, Dispater, Doloras, Eiseth, Flauros, Geryon, Gogunta, Haagenti, Jezelda, Jubilex, Kabriri, Kostchtchie, Lamashtu, Mahathallah, Mammon, Mazmezz, Mephistopheles, Mestama, Moloch, Nocticula, Nurgal, Orcus, Pazuzu, Shax, Shivaska, Sifkesh, Socothbenoth, Szuriel, Trelmarixian, Urxhel, Xoveron, Yhidothrus, Zevgavizeb, Zura
Fiendish Obediences (Asura Ranas): Andak, Bohga, Chugarra, Chupurvagasti, Gavidya, Hydim, Ioramvol, Maeha, Onamahli, Rahu, Rytara, Taraksun, Zurapadyn
Fiendish Obediences (Daemon Harbingers): Aesdurath, Ajids, Anogetz, Arlachramas, Braismois, Cixyron, Corosbel, Diceid, Ealdeez, Folca, Geon, Hastrikhal, Jacarkas, Laivatiniel, Llamolaek, Mneoc, Nalmungder, Osolmyr, Pavnuri, Roqorolos, Ruapceras, Slandrais, Stygidvod, Tamede, Tresmalvos, Uaransaph, Vorasha, Xsistaid, Zaigasnar, Zelishkar
Fiendish Obediences (Infernal Dukes): Alocer, Bifrons, Crocell, Deumus, Eaqueo, Eligos, Furcas, Gaap, Haborym, Iaozrael, Jiraviddain, Kalma, Lorcan, Lorthact, Losarkur, Malthus, Nergal, Ose, Pirias, Quindiovatos, Rasvocel, Ruzel, Sabnach, Titivilus, Uruskreil, Vapula, Vois, Wylgart, Xhasnaphar, Yan-gant-y-tan, Zaebos, Zepar
Fiendish Obediences (Kyton Demagogues): Aroggus, Barravoclair, Fharaas, Inkariax, Kaikyton, Morrobahn, Raetorgash, Surgoz, Vevelor
Fiendish Obediences (Malebranche): Alichino, Barbariccia, Cagnazzo, Calcabrina, Circiatto, Draghignazzo, Farfarello, Graffiacane, Libicocco, Malacoda, Rubicante, Scarmiglione
Fiendish Obediences (Nascent Demon Lords): Daclau-Sar, Izyagna, Menxyr, Murnath, Nightripper, Ovonovo, Shamira, Sithhud, Treerazer
Fiendish Obediences (Oni Daimyo): Akuma, Chimon, Guyuku, Inma, Muronna, Nataka, Onmyuza, Ushitora, Uzumae, Yabu
Fiendish Obediences (Qlippoth Lords): Chavazvug, Isph-Aun-Vuln, Oaur-Ooung, Shiggarreb, Thuskchoon, Yamasoth
Fiendish Obediences (Rakshasa Immortals): Aksha, Bundha, Caera, Dradjit, Hudima, Kunkarna, Mursha, Otikaya, Prihasta, Ravana, Surpa, Vibhishah, Zabha
Fiendish Obediences (Sahkil Tormentors): Ananshea, Chamiaholom, Charg, Dachzerul, Hataam, Iggeret, Nameless, Ozranvial, Sharnari, Velgaas, Vermilion Mother, Xiquiripat, Zipacna
Haunt: Servants of the Book (CR 10)
Library: Book of the Damned (CR 20)
Magic Items: amulet of the Abyss (neck, 15,000 gp), asura meditation mat (none, 32,000 gp), candle of abaddon (none, 9,000 gp), grasp of torment (none, 17,025 gp), hydradaemon runestone (none, 3,300 gp), melancholic talisman (neck, 0,000 gp), ring of the cacodaemon (ring, 15,000 gp), sanguine talisman (neck, varies), spiteful shield (shield, 14,170 gp), talisman of soul-eating (neck, 5,400 gp), thanatotic plate (armor, 141,240 gp), thanatotic visage (head, 5,000 gp)
Monsters: Bushyasta (CR 6), Damned Petitioner (Hell) (CR 1), Deinochos (CR 5), Executioner Devil (Munagola) (CR 11), Ghalzarokh (CR 15), Hunted Petitioner (Abaddon) (CR 1), Larva Petitioner (Abyss) (CR 1), Mutilated Petitioner (Shadow Plane) (CR 1), Najikai (CR 8), Nikaramsa (CR 14), Nucol (CR 4), Oitos (CR 11), Orsatka (CR 13), Prey Petitioner (Material Plane) (CR 1), Sepsidaemon (CR 7), Squamous Demodand (CR 20), Terrorized Petitioner (Ethereal Plane) (CR 1), Voice of the Damned (CR 25)
Prestige Classes: Demoniac, Diabolist, Souldrinker
Rituals: fiendish conjuration, first apotheosis, fourth apotheosis, manifest manifestation, quartern disjunction, second apotheosis, soul trap, third apotheosis
Spells: awaken the devoured (cleric 5, inquisitor 4, psychic 5, shaman 5, sorcerer/wizard 5, spiritualist 5, witch 5), Charon's dispensation (cleric 4, inquisitor 4, medium 4, mesmerist 4, psychic 4, shaman 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, spiritualist 4, witch 4), create drug (alchemist 3, cleric 4, druid 3, occultist 3), create soul gem (cleric 3, occultist 3, shaman 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, spiritualist 3, witch 3), hellfire ray (6, magus 6, sorcerer/wizard 6, witch 6), lash of the astradaemon (cleric 6, magus 5, sorcerer/wizard 6, witch 6), malediction (antipaladin 4, cleric 4, shaman 4, spiritualist 4, witch 4), parasitic soul (cleric 9, psychic 9, shaman 9, sorcerer/wizard 9, witch 9), rift of ruin (cleric 8, sorcerer/wizard 8, witch 8), sacrifice (cleric 4, sorcerer/wizard 4), soul transfer (cleric 7, psychic 7, shaman 7, sorcerer/wizard 7, spiritualist 6, witch 7), waters of lamashtu (alchemist 2, antipaladin 2, cleric 3, druid 3, witch 3)
Subdomains: Arson (Fire), Dragon (Scalykind), Entropy (Chaos), Fear (Evil), Flotsam (Water), Isolation (Void), Moon (Darkness), Revelry (Chaos), Rivers (Water), Saurian (Scalykind), Slavery (Law) Torture (Destruction), Tyranny (Law), Venom (Scalykind)
Weapons: war razor

Luthorne |
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So, would it be safe to call this the Pathfinder equivalent of the third edition BOVD? Cause I'm definitely getting that kind of feel here.
Also, what is Kunkarna the Rakshasa immortal. I ask because I used to play smite, and Kumbakharna was one of my favorite characters in that game.

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So, would it be safe to call this the Pathfinder equivalent of the third edition BOVD? Cause I'm definitely getting that kind of feel here.
Is this the PfRPG's equivalent to BoVD? Yes and no. This is a book about the evil entities of the planes of the Pathfinder multiverse, and their servants, and while the old BoVD certainly had quite a bit of that, it was focused first and foremost on crunchy rules content for evil PCs and NPCs, not flavor and setting and worldbuilding.
The Book of Vile Darkness was a 192-page book with maybe 60 or 70 pages of fluff and flavor, and the other 120 or so all taken up by prestige classes and new rules and feats and spells and whatnot.
The Book of the Damned is a 288-page book with about 40 pages of dedicated "crunch" content, along with the Obediences and Boons scattered throughout almost every other section of the book.
Both books have about 16 pages worth of new monsters, though many of those in the BoVD are just updated or newly converted to 3e from previous incarnations of D&D. All of the ones in the Book of the Damned are brand new to PfRPG as far as I am aware.
(Edit: update on the Book of the Damned pagecount. 288, not 256.)

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The Apocrypha are, essentially, the various notes and scraps of Tabris's work. They serve as a source of power for those seeking mastery over outsider types other than the primary three - kytons, asura, demodands, and so on.
The demodand parts are written on coffee house napkins, aren't they?

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Also, geez, many really disturbing fiendish demigods and almost demigods in that list ._.; Even Zepar is featured? I'm almost afraid to ask what his obedience is, but it can't be worse then Folca's I guess, so umm, yeah, what it is?

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Oh yeah, almost forgot about that. And now I really want campaign setting books for titans/gigases(and not just because I want to plan year ahead were my party could find fitting titan if I continue certain ap after final boss in order to destroy one artifact. Totes not just because of that.)
BTW, out of curisioty, does this book reprint anything from Hell Unleashed? Like details on plane inside the book or the research rules for using Book of the Damned as "library"?
Also, I think I asked this before, but now that some people have access to the book, does the book actually go into about "Sacred Apocrypha" aka bad things celestials and good deities have done that book of the damned in lore apparently has? I'm still salty considering even Chronicles of the Righteous artifact statblock mentions it having "unsettling truths" about good outsiders, I mean seriously Paizo, give a break to good guys :' D I'm bit confused about why they are good aligned if writers keep insisting they have a dark side
I once had an idea for a magical item which was a pamphlet written by a Diviner that was actually ghost written as a joint effort by Geryon and Sifkesh. The Pamphlet identifies Iomedae as Aroden's murderer, and that the act condemned humanity to a slow and inexorable decline. Although the Pamphlet is false, because it was written by Geryon anyone who reads it or a copy of it will believe its true. When it was initially released it caused chaos and nearly destroyed Iomedae's entire religion, but eventually the combined forces of Ghenshau and Zohls were able to stem the Pamhplets spread and help free those enchanted by it. All the copies were burned except for the original (which is a minor artifact) which was sealed away at a magical library guarded by worshipers and good aligned monsters of both Empyreal Lords (Can you say Dungeon crawl for evil PCs?)

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Scholar of Damnation wrote:The Apocrypha are, essentially, the various notes and scraps of Tabris's work. They serve as a source of power for those seeking mastery over outsider types other than the primary three - kytons, asura, demodands, and so on.The demodand parts are written on coffee house napkins, aren't they?
I always thought the Kytons were written on human skin served at coffee houses for Kytons...

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CrinosG wrote:So, would it be safe to call this the Pathfinder equivalent of the third edition BOVD? Cause I'm definitely getting that kind of feel here.Is this the PfRPG's equivalent to BoVD? Yes and no. This is a book about the evil entities of the planes of the Pathfinder multiverse, and their servants, and while the old BoVD certainly had quite a bit of that, it was focused first and foremost on crunchy rules content for evil PCs and NPCs, not flavor and setting and worldbuilding.
The Book of Vile Darkness was a 192-page book with maybe 60 or 70 pages of fluff and flavor, and the other 120 or so all taken up by prestige classes and new rules and feats and spells and whatnot.
The Book of the Damned is a 288-page book with about 40 pages of dedicated "crunch" content, along with the Obediences and Boons scattered throughout almost every other section of the book.
Both books have about 16 pages worth of new monsters, though many of those in the BoVD are just updated or newly converted to 3e from previous incarnations of D&D. All of the ones in the Book of the Damned are brand new to PfRPG as far as I am aware.
(Edit: update on the Book of the Damned pagecount. 288, not 256.)
288 pages? Man alive, Paizo really went all out on this one. I know Todd Stewart James Jacobs did a probably large job, but who else worked on this monolith?

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288 pages? Man alive, Paizo really went all out on this one. I know Todd Stewart did a huge job, but who else worked on this monolith?
This book is a collection of the three previously-published softcover books of the damned.
Wes Schneider wrote the first 64 page book (Hell and archdevils)
I wrote the 2nd 64 page book (Abyss and demon lords)
Todd Stewart wrote the 3rd 64 page book (Abaddon and horsemen)
For the new content (which amounted to well over 64 pages, since we didn't reprint information from the previous 3 books that has already been reprinted in hardcover format; namely, all the monsters), the new authors (and what they wrote) are...
Amanda Hamon Kunz (wrote the Queens of the Night and the Archdevil boons, wrote the infernal duke section, wrote the maelbranche section, wrote the Rakshasa Immortals section, the Rakshasa realm section, the worshiping fiends section for divs, kytons, asuras, oni, rakshasas, sahkils, and qlippoth, and the new demodand and the new devil and the new rakshasa and the new petitioners)
John Compton (wrote the Asura Rana section and a fair amount of the info about other fiends, and the new asura and the new qlippoth)
Adam Daigle (wrote Ahriman, wrote the Sahkil Tormentors, wrote the Xibalba section, and the new div and the new sahkil)
James Jacobs (wrote additional flavor text for demon lords and developed the whole book)
Isabelle Lee (wrote additional boons for demon lords, wrote additional content for some Abyss locations, some additional stuff for magic items and rituals, several new spells, and many of the feats, and the new demon)
Wes Schneider (wrote the kyton demagogue section, wrote the kyton realm section, came up with the new name for kytons (YAY THANKS!), and other kyton details including the new kyton monster)
Todd Stewart (wrote boons for the four Horsemen and the daemon harbingers, and the new daemon
Josh Vogt (wrote the Oni Daimyo section and the Oni realms section and the other oni info, including the new oni monster)
(APOLOGIES to anyone above who I misrepresented or forgot something you wrote!)

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May someone please tell me what the obedience is for Slandrais, the daemon harbinger of obsession and love potions? And do we find out what he looks like? Personally I'm hoping he looks kind of like a shlub -- and is still dangerous.
And what's the new name for the kytons that Mister Jacob mentioned?

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Wait... is Folca seriously supposed to be the daemonic harbinger of pedophiles?! I thought his purview was just kidnapping and being creepy.
Paizo will never come out and say it I don't think. But lets look at the evidence.
*His areas of focus include Abductions, Strangers and sweets (So he's literally a stranger with candy).
*He grants his worshipers the Lust subdomain.
*Then there his obedience which is under spoilers upthread.
I think the writers have come as close to saying it as they are comfortable with without actually saying it, but yeah. That's what Folca is about.
I mean when I first read up on Folca it took a few seconds for it to click with me too, it was like "Wait, there's a Daemon whose focus is on sweets? What the Hell does that... oh....OHHHHHHHH).
Now of course, its up to the GM on how explicit they want to make this based on the comfort level of their players dealing with these issues. And its vague enough that you can probably run Folca without having any reference to.... that (Like maybe he kidnaps the kids to make them into candy, like he's a patron to Gingerbread witches) But yeah, Paizo really went there. I think they wanted to make sure that it was explicit that Daemons were the worst of the worst. In which case mission accomplished there guys.

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Wait... is Folca seriously supposed to be the daemonic harbinger of pedophiles?! I thought his purview was just kidnapping and being creepy.
His portfolio is "abduction, strangers, sweets" and he gives access to lust subdomain.
I'm relieved that Zepar's obedience isn't as creepy as his portfolio, assuming his portfolio wasn't toned down from "abduction, rape, transformation". Seriously, Zepar is most disturbing Infernal Duke and beats some demons and daemons with that portfolio and the implications of it

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You all realise that these are fictional entities, rights?
If that is joke about being disturbed by fictional entities, then please don't make it since that is just belittling fiction if you are saying "eh, don't be disturbed by fictional stuff". Fiction is supposed to evoke feelings and emotions, so if you feel nothing after reading something disturbing, then the fiction isn't doing it's job.

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Yeah, plus if you were someone who was unfortunate enough to have experienced this sort of abuse, playing in a game where one of the bad guys is a literal Demigod of child abuse can potentially tear open old wounds.
There is a reason that "Trigger warnings" are a thing. Because its not nice to accidentally hit someone's hot button and unintentionally upset them.

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Gorbacz wrote:You all realise that these are fictional entities, rights?If that is joke about being disturbed by fictional entities, then please don't make it since that is just belittling fiction if you are saying "eh, don't be disturbed by fictional stuff". Fiction is supposed to evoke feelings and emotions, so if you feel nothing after reading something disturbing, then the fiction isn't doing it's job.
The line between "being moved by art" and "freaking out because you believe that art represents some actual desire or will of the author or support for some kind of activity or view" is quite blurred.

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CorvusMask wrote:Gorbacz wrote:You all realise that these are fictional entities, rights?If that is joke about being disturbed by fictional entities, then please don't make it since that is just belittling fiction if you are saying "eh, don't be disturbed by fictional stuff". Fiction is supposed to evoke feelings and emotions, so if you feel nothing after reading something disturbing, then the fiction isn't doing it's job.The line between "being moved by art" and "freaking out because you believe that art represents some actual desire or will of the author or support for some kind of activity or view" is quite blurred.
Huh? I don't think anyone was freaking out or accusing writers of anything. I think you are reading too much into that.
Anyhoo, I would like to point out that trigger warning is supposed to warn about content that might trigger PTSD, not "this content is offensive and might upset someone's sensibilities". <_< CrinosG sounded like they were clearly talking about PTSD yeah, but I wanted to point it out since I hate how parts of Internet has warped the meaning to refer being offended.

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Yeah, plus if you were someone who was unfortunate enough to have experienced this sort of abuse, playing in a game where one of the bad guys is a literal Demigod of child abuse can potentially tear open old wounds.
There is a reason that "Trigger warnings" are a thing. Because its not nice to accidentally hit someone's hot button and unintentionally upset them.
As somebody who earns his living by, among other, triggering people so that they flip out in the courtroom, I can relate. But since this is supposed to be a game played by adult people in a consenting manner that's bound by a social contract AND victims of child abuse don't go into double digits percentage of the population, I think we're safe here. It's bad enough already that Paizo had to surrender to triggers of religious puritans, I'm fine with stepping out of Saturday Kids' Cartoon territory that traditionally was D&D and moving towards "shocking" content that RPGs first handled 25 years ago. World of Darkness did this and that and went even further, and they're still around.

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May someone please tell me what the obedience is for Slandrais, the daemon harbinger of obsession and love potions? And do we find out what he looks like? Personally I'm hoping he looks kind of like a shlub -- and is still dangerous.
He looks like a wasp made of ashes and bloody ice with two scorpion tails.
And what's the new name for the kytons that Mister Jacob mentioned?

CrinosG |
... I love how the Daemons' stuff flip between "KILL IT WITH NAPALM" and "Awwwww" *offers hugs*
Maybe its me, but not seeing the cuddliness of a giant wasp who is the patron of Necrophiles and date rapists.
(Or are you speaking in general regarding the Harbingers? I don't have the book yet, but from what I have seen they are the worst of the fiendish Demigods).
Anyways, can't wait till the PDF comes out. Gonna be staying up late tonight so I can pick it up in the early morning.

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... I love how the Daemons' stuff flip between "KILL IT WITH NAPALM" and "Awwwww" *offers hugs*
I know, right! Slandrais' obedience is oddly sanguine and sincere if you look at it in a certain way.
Folca, on the other hand, needs to get killed by Folgrit or Cayden "Friend to all orphans" Cailean.

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As an entity who falls in the CR 21-25 range, Folca is perfectly killable by high level PCs.
While it's deliberately vague, I'd suspect that Folca, as a daemon, is way, way more interested in murder than pedophilia. Folca is basically It as a spellgranting quasigod, after all.
Socoth-Benoth, on the other hand...

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Eric Hinkle wrote:May someone please tell me what the obedience is for Slandrais, the daemon harbinger of obsession and love potions? And do we find out what he looks like? Personally I'm hoping he looks kind of like a shlub -- and is still dangerous.** spoiler omitted **
Eric Hinkle wrote:And what's the new name for the kytons that Mister Jacob mentioned?** spoiler omitted **
Yeesh. :shudder: Slandrais sounds like a charmer.
And who or what is Kaikyton? Yes, I''ll be getting the PDF in a few days but a few more spoilers won't hurt me. And I'll love the work in any event.

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Rysky wrote:... I love how the Daemons' stuff flip between "KILL IT WITH NAPALM" and "Awwwww" *offers hugs*Folca, on the other hand, needs to get killed by Folgrit or Cayden "Friend to all orphans" Cailean.
I can imagine Lamashtu being willing to destroy Folca.
Now there's an idea, your group of noble PCs gets approached by the local Lamashtans, who ask for help to hunt down the sicko who's been doing... things, to the beloved get of the Mother of Monsters.

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And who or what is Kaikyton? Yes, I'll be getting the PDF in a few days but a few more spoilers won't hurt me. And I'll love the work in any event.