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Trapfinding, melee, ranged, diplomacy, arcane, etc..? What does the current party wish they had?
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Not for spoilers, but ultimately (OOC or meta)... are we the good guys or bad guys? I can easily come up with reasons to work with Sharran, but not to the end of oppressing, enslaving, killing or destroying populations. Is it a lesser of two evils angle? Pure chaos or law (or alien) vs maintaining balance? That's quite doable.
My concern is more the mind/head games or psychology around being forced to kill others to survive. It gets dark pretty fast. Is it a simulation of some sort and the folks being killed aren't real? Is it like infinite mirrors... Where the player controls the character and the character controls an avatar?
Create Water
Paladin is the only Full BAB that can cast it, and only starting at Level 4 (spell slot, not at will). Create Food and Water
Considering there are other scarcity aspects to the game, it's not really a game changer... It just creates another dynamic.
I'd think let those spells happen... as with other abilities, makes certain classes more desirable. Also puts a target on their back. Just another version of old school... Protect the Magic-User.
Would removing Conjuration work?
Upon further consideration, there may be too many non-standard factors, meaning I may not have as firm a grasp on the rules and tactics as I'd like. Apologies for my withdrawal.
@GM DarkLightHitomi - why not just play it vanilla and select which books you're willing to use, for simplicity instead of hand-picking this or that mechanic. I suppose options presented within said books could be a yay/nay... Automatic Bonus Progression? Background Skills? Although not core, Elephant in the Room? Will we need to craft arrows & bolts or can we craft weapons? Or even craft magic items? Does surrender count as defeat (gain their XP)? I'd rather not kill/slaughter anyone/anything unless we have to. Also, when we defeat an enemy, their XP is split evenly among the team (my suggestion). Future Regulators could work on: * a Wizard (Evocation?)
Keep it limited to Core and we can adjust when we know more. My preference would be alignments of LG (not lawful stupid), NG, CG (not anarchist), LN or CN (not anarchist) for Regulators.
25 Point Buy & Multi-Classing? With the level of deadliness, lack of resources and PvP, that should be fair.
I know you said you'd fill, but what do you like playing best? Rogues... :)
Ah, team names! I think I can work that into the narrative. I just meant for OOC ease of reference. Team Loyalty is the more important aspect.
I'd suggest considering a team loyalty mandate. Max team size being 6, no "need" to turn on teammates, you can all escape. You cannot turn on your team and if you do, your XP gets distributed across the team. The game will be hard enough without a distrust of teammates. If that works, I'm interested and would love to start a team... as a working name, The Regulators. If anyone would like to join, please express interest with a character concept and role, niche(s), specialt(y/ies), etc... melee, range, battlefield control, arcane, divine, stealth, recon, healing, AoE, etc... Would love to get 6 members (5 + myself), I can create my character last to fill any voids in team balance.
Also, to be clear... I like the game and would love to join, should an opening presents itself in the future. It's just that the name picking and "questions" got me thinking and got pretty deep. Monk led to Monkey (Business) and Vanara... Herman Hesse got in on the action... Mind blown! I've really enjoyed the recruitment, thank you!
Thanks for the response. I question was more, were these characters supposed to have been through the initial portion of the AP? Or had they heard about the ugliness, and therefore could use that in their background and reasons for continuing the efforts. Home town was overrun with Kyuss-loveliness, monastery/keep was secured and holding out against the walking dead, waiting for them to succeed, etc... That sort of thing. Maybe it can helps someone else.
Good morning folks... I'll be withdrawing as well. Happy gaming. Game on!
Regarding the AP and starting at Level 12 confusion... Are we starting with the first book, modified for 12th level? Or are we jumping in on book 3 or 4. I'm only asking so that I know of Kyuss can play a part in the background... Or if no one knows anything about the Kyuss threat, yet.
As luck would have it, with a Monk submission... I'm at the Korean Martial Arts Championship (regional)... in Atlantic City, NJ. For my son, 13 yr old, Tang Soo Do Black Belt. I've never seen such a concentration of people that could kick my butt across all ages!
Also, oopsie... Bane and Vicious weapon qualities are from Ultimate Equipment, not CRB - me thinks.
The Temple upon the Mount, literally justted from the mountainside midway up the cliff-face. For centuries, they have watched and waited... countless prophecies both true and false. The Kyuss threat had become real, growing too quickly and disrupting the balance. In this enemy's wake, chaos and death that was in no living thing's best interest. So, they sent an agent... to assess, report back and act as needed. No Matter the Cost:
...or if you prefer, Monkey Business! Male human monk 12
Init +9; Senses Perception +16
hp 94 (12d8+36) Fort +13, Ref +18, Will +15; +2 vs. enchantments Defensive Abilities improved evasion; Immune disease, poison
Melee unarmed strike +18/+13 (2d8+2/19-20 plus 2d6 vs. Undead and 2d6) or
Special Attacks flurry of blows, stunning fist (13/day, DC 20)
Base Atk +9; CMB +19; CMD 36 Feats Agile Maneuvers, Blind-fight, Combat Reflexes, Craft Wondrous Item, Dodge, Improved Critical (unarmed strike), Improved Unarmed Strike, Master Craftsman, Mobility, Spring Attack, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike) Traits caretaker, reactionary Skills Acrobatics +20 (+48 to jump), Climb +19, Craft (leather) +18, Escape Artist +12, Heal +18, Knowledge (history) +11, Knowledge (religion) +13, Linguistics +5, Perception +16, Ride +11, Sense Motive +16, Stealth +19, Swim +10 Languages Abyssal, Aklo, Celestial, Common, Elven, Vanaran SQ abundant step, fast movement, high jump, ki pool (10 points cold iron, lawful, magic, silver), maneuver training, slow fall 60 ft., wholeness of body (12 hit points) Other Gear +1 undead-bane vicious amulet of mighty fists, belt of incredible dexterity +4, bracers of armor +4, cloak of resistance +3, headband of inspired wisdom +2, monk's robe, ring of climbing, rope of climbing, masterwork tool, 8,450 gp
For your review of mechanics & crunch. He's all about movement. I think it's all CRB.
Excellent point. Which is my point kinda... You're not making a weapon attack with the gauntlet. You're making an unarmed strike. Your hand is just sheathed. Once the item allows an unarmed strike, Monk class features should be applicable.
Don't like touching ikky stuff :) Couldn't you then enchant them? Mithral gauntlets, or even some leather gloves. My point is, by CRB... Transitive property, inference or Aristotelian logic seems to indicate that a Monk (using unarmed strike) can wear something on his hands like anyone else using unarmed strike. Agreed? Extending that logic, they are not required to be barefoot. They can wear boots and slippers, footwear. And still make unarmed strikes with feet. So, if feet don't need to be uncovered... hands shouldn't need to be either.
Not a popular choice for Age of Worms, but I'm thinking pure Monk of Lendor. Preserving the balance. The Prophecies have always been true... Now they have become real. It's time to come down from the Mountain. ------- I do have a question about gauntlets. If a non-Monk can use a gauntlet to make an unarmed strike... why can't a Monk? CRB states: "Gauntlet: This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack..." Certainly, Monks don't need to use gauntlets... but they should be able to.
Lore Warden/Scout... Exotic Weapon Fauchard and let the battlefield control and crits begin!No archetypes. Fighter/Rogue... Tada! Elephant in the Room, Feat Tax... shenanigans?
Markus the Librarian was created for Age of Worms... Can be leveled up, easily enough. That was some good RP! Lore Warden/Scout... Exotic Weapon Fauchard and let the battlefield control and crits begin! If you end up needing to fill that niche, I'm your huckleberry!
And I've lied again. Have you guys given up on me? Nope, just let us know when you are ready!
Ape is an interesting choice! Please teach it to flank!
Check this guy out... he can dish it. The Un-Tank: Tanker
Human (Varisian) brawler (snakebite striker) 2/unchained rogue 3 (Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide 23, 88, Pathfinder Unchained 20) NG Medium humanoid (human) Init +11; Senses Perception +9 -------------------- Defense -------------------- AC 24, touch 17, flat-footed 18 (+5 armor, +1 deflection, +5 Dex, +1 dodge, +2 shield) hp 53 (5 HD; 3d8+2d10+22) Fort +7, Ref +11, Will +2 Defensive Abilities danger sense +1, evasion -------------------- Offense -------------------- Speed 30 ft. Melee unarmed strike +10 (1d6+5) or . . unarmed strike flurry of blows +8/+8 (1d6+5) Special Attacks brawler's flurry, sneak attack (unchained) +2d6, sneak attack +1d6 plus 3 bleed -------------------- Statistics -------------------- Str 10, Dex 20, Con 16, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 11 Base Atk +4; CMB +4; CMD 21 Feats Dodge, Improved Initiative, Improved Unarmed Strike, Skill Focus (Bluff), Toughness, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike) Traits freedom fighter, reactionary Skills Acrobatics +13, Bluff +10, Climb +4, Diplomacy +4, Disguise +4, Escape Artist +11, Intimidate +4, Perception +9, Ride +9, Sense Motive +9, Sleight of Hand +9, Stealth +14, Swim +5, Use Magic Device +5 Languages Common, Varisian SQ brawler's cunning, martial training, rogue talent (bleeding attack +3), trapfinding +1 Combat Gear potion of cure light wounds (4), potion of shield of faith +2 (2); Other Gear +1 mithral chain shirt, darkwood heavy wooden shield, belt of incredible dexterity +2, daredevil boots[ARG], ring of protection +1, 443 gp -------------------- Special Abilities -------------------- Bleeding Attack +3 (Ex) Sneak attacks also deal 3 bleed damage/round. Brawler's Cunning (Ex) Count as Int 13 for the purpose of combat feat pre-requisites. Brawler's Flurry +2/+2 (Ex) Can make full attack & gain two-wep fighting, but only with unarmed strike, close, or monk wep. Danger Sense +1 (Ex) +1 bonus on reflex saves and AC against traps. Evasion (Ex) If succeed on Reflex save for half dam, take none instead. Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal. Martial Training (Ex) Brawler levels count as fighter/monk levels for feat/item pre-reqs and effects. Sneak Attack (Unchained) +2d6 Attacks deal extra dam if flank foe or if foe is flat-footed. Sneak Attack +1d6 Attacks deal extra dam if flank foe or if foe is flat-footed. Trapfinding +1 Gain a bonus to find or disable traps, including magical ones.
I can play both, maybe I can go for Herald Caller cleric if you like, a more ranged divine, but with summons to help melee (hoping it's pfs legal) xD Herald Caller is PFS legal, and the summoned creatures make for great flanking buddies. I'll create a "tank" or suitable melee character.
Hey guys, I'm a bit late to the party, and I'm actually a lot interested in this stuff. I think 4 is better than 3. We have a Sorcerer, Kineticist, you and me. PFS legal, level 5. What should we make?
@Helix Missionary & Saashaa What do you want for a 3rd or 3rd & 4th? I'm open... Melee? Ranged? Cleric?
I need to get to my copy of Hero Lab, but will whip someone up!
Dammit. I keep forgetting to say that now that 2nd ed is a thing. yes. first ed. No worries, confirming because I started using HeroLab and I only have 1E. Grazie!
PF 1E?
I think it's all just a misunderstanding. Everyone had their points and perspectives. I'm happy to help you, Wilhim. I've not been a DM (old school) but am very interested in class combinations/synergies and tactical encounters. Peace! ps: when you say Amazonian, do you mean... jungle, strapping female warrior or... e-commerce advocate :)
Sounds almost like recruiting encounter playtesters.
I'm your huckleberry...
GM Rutseg, This is an amazing opportunity, and your players are luck to have you as GM. Good luck and happy gaming, all! Markus
I got waylaid this weekend and no character build time. Will withdraw from consideration. But, VMC Summoner (tweaked for Synthesist) isn't over powered at all. You get no spells, no summoning monsters... Just your Eidelon for 3 times a day, for as many rounds as your character level. Evolution points are nerfed, it's Summoner level -4 (with Half-Dragon, that's Max 14) and then half the evolutions. I think it's 9 points. Hardly a worry. I saw what you offered with VMC Sorcerer (get them closer to dragon)... and thought of another way. Could be neutral with good tendencies (except where it comes to his father)... But slowly accepting his own destiny and becoming less angry.
What if... just to consider: Asterion Cleric 12 or 10 (w/Half-Dragon)
DM minor tweaks the VMC (it's homebrew), all evolutions go towards Black Dragon-esque features: flight/wings, claws, tail, natural armor, etc... channeling his inner dragon. Ultimately, he can take "evolved" dragon form 3x/day, with duration 1 round/level.
Always an outsider, hiding his black scaly hide... Never accepted fully. He was different, he just didn't know how different. He learned all he could from his mother, his people... and stuck out to find out more about his father, and finally his father's progeny. Asterion (Half-Dragon) Cleric - Knowledge & Travel domains. Wyrm Blooded
Knowledge is power, precious... But, he's come to discover that the feeling from "learning" is incredible, it's own high. And as sickeningly sweet as the adage was, to know a thing or someone was to love them. What better way to expand knowledge than to travel? New mysteries, puzzles, conundrums... Approaching situations with an open mind leads to the best results. If we could just control how emotions, his hubris. Confident in his abilities, he feels he is inevitable, an irresistible force. Please let me know if this treatment is off interest and I should continue.
They might craft different things... Wondrous vs. Arms and Armor. Asterion Druid with Rhino Hide armor, Gore feat. Don't mention Sneak Attack! Can he have black scales all over, rather than hair/fur? Thinking Cleric... anyone suggest a good Archetype?
Have fun guys! If you ever need an old man... I am the entertainer!
A week of camping with the family can be debilitating, yes! This is what happens when you read all too quickly. But, I believe I gleaned the gist of it. Enjoy your time!
I just like the idea of him with a mule-pulled small wagon where he had his supplies, pens, paints, dyes, paper, vellums and fabric. Traveling from town to town and setting up shop in markets. Sounded by the laughter of children by day.
Might I suggest a theme song? Last in Line, by Dio:
We're a ship without a storm Cold without the warm Light inside the darkness lit at peace We're a laugh without a tear
We're off to the witch
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll know for the first time
Two eyes from the east
We search for the truth
We'll know for the first time
Yeah We're off to the witch
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll know for the first time
See how we shine We're the last in line
Songwriters: Jimmy Bain / Ronnie James Dio / Vivian Patrick Campbell
We can do a Seven Samurai thing... Actually, if anyone wants to have loosely linked backgrounds... I'm open to it. @Helix Missionary
Guess the question is, is that rate enough that it would be a dead giveaway if we operated wearing a mask (or several different ones)? Or are there enough artisans and demand that it wouldn't be a problem, especially in the big city. He would of course be using less ornate masks, perhaps made of paper or parchment and easily disposed of.
Spare the rod, Robbet. Let me see if they'd rather join us for a spot of tea. I love tea parties. His voice changing slightly, deeper then. Either way, the gate shall be taken. The old man starts a whispered song, as he approaches the night watchman. I see a little silhouetto of a man,
... dammit, I always get stuck right there. Oh well. This is weird, in starting to imagine him is some kind of harlequin mask, or a la V for Vendetta. OMG, just looked it up... Wikipedia: Scaramouche (from Italian scaramuccia, literally "little skirmisher"), also known as scaramouch, is a stock clown character of the 16th century commedia dell'arte (comic theatrical arts of Italian literature). The role combined characteristics of the Zanni (servant) and the Capitano (masked henchman), with some assortment of villainous traits. Usually attired in black Spanish dress and burlesquing a Don, he was often beaten by Harlequin for his boasting and cowardice.
There is the enjoyment of creating exactly what you want... or finding a system that allows you to. Spheres of Power/Spheres of Might is a system I've discovered recently. It seems to suit my style of character creation. On the other hand, I always like to be the pick up or replacement character, filling in the party gaps (with my own twist, the un-cola)... and RPing into role that I didn't have in mind, but is needed. It's a welcome mental challenge. This system is close to that, I think. But we're all doing it, in a sense. Circumstance, serendipity, etc...
Unsure of they're quite opposites, but "Markus" has... ORDER/Ferocity: The will you possess is capable of moving mountains and comes with such a rush of passion and vigor that others are often forced into stunned awe. You are unlikely to break under torture or mental duress, possessing a well of emotional strength that at times seems unending. CHAOS/Hypocrisy: Others see you for what you are; a charlatan and a liar, unwilling or unable to be held to your words. Your judgments and insights are seen as false, unlikely to be followed or trusted. I think the juxtaposition of Order and Chaos is intended to create that real world personal tension, as order and chaos themselves are opposing forces. The convergence and path to reconciliation is fertile soil for RP. I personally like that he is seen as a charlatan, which he literally is (entertainer) but that itself was the lie - to make jokes and be one, bring levity and be light hearted - because he's incapable of ought else, that folks choose to believe... Beneath it all, the heart of stalwart nobility.
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