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On behalf of more than one of my players (mostly one but two others have also expressed less-than-happiness)

One thing is the part where every last one of my players appear to have decided that high dex and studded leather is the universal only solution to AC that's worth it to them, and heavy armors are really much too bad to be considered.

Another is that they are currently refusing to consider special materials due to price scaling.

A third is that they are really, remarkably less than fond of noisy (I have yet to see ONE noisy armor in play, possibly because they like their stealth).

I'm sure all those things have been covered wall up and down (a solution soon would be appreciated, but alas, not the point here).

But the thing I am here to mention is the armor potency difference for heavy armors and all the other armors.
So what I have experienced is an enormous dissatisfaction with the part where heavy armor is one magic item level higher than all the other magic armors.

I think the point here is that the players don't really feel that the heavy armors are so much better for their AC that they are worth the higher level enchantment. Were their bonuses actually remarkably better than lighter armors, that would be a different case, but currently, the difference in heavy armors is causing enough anooyance that out of 5 sessions we have yet to have one where heavy armor was not the main point of complaint.


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Sounds interesting - I have had a number of players talking about making weapons feel more distinctive. For my group, one of the problems is the lacking lethality of polearms, as they would like to see them correspond more to just how deadly those weapons were in reality. I think some of the things you have here for a large number of weapon groups with different styles might speak to quite a number of the things we're currently concerned about.

A bit amusing, but we actually discussed something a little similar for armor (making heavy armor have a trait/type that makes it more effective (damage blocking or some such), making leather armor less effeicient against, say, piercing damage to better reflect that materials are really different.

Anyway, interesting idea.

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Congratulations on making the top 16! I did vote for this even if I really wanted a side view/cross section/some sort of third dimension. But that is forever my disagreement with caves and indoors maps, when it isn't there.

Still the concept and idea and great Golarion tie-in really worked for me.

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Congratulations on the top 16! I couldn't find it in me to vote for this based on clarity - I am not certain how exactly the place goes together, but I am happy to see it here, as the concept and idea is really one of the cooler ones.

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Congratulations on the top 16. I had this map in my personal top 8 as well as many others. I actually really liked the unusual shaped design - I mean, on an underground map, why ever not?

The lack of more Golarion tie-in and the fact that dwarves bore me a little bit was probably the least likeable parts of this map. Oh, that and the hand-writing could be more legible, but that might be a classicist/teacher pet peeve. It's not like I can't read it.

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I am pleased to see this in the top 16 and was pleased to place it my own top 8. The execution is excellent. The idea is... well, it's not the best in here, but it has some shine and that is counting that I don't much like dwarves. Sorry, but I don't. I have (recently, even) played the PFS scenario that references this, but I couldn't place it in Golarion, so that does trouble me. The tie in could be so much more, fairly easily.

Still, it a really good map and the volcano IS interesting.

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Congratulations on making it!

I will admit to not voting for this map - I simply could not figure it out and no matter how much I wanted to like it, I would be downright terrified of presenting something like it to my players as a GM.

Still the idea is both novel and interesting, so I am please to see it in the top 16, even if it wasn't in my personal top 8. I kind of wish the execution had made more sense to me, but I'm just too unclear on a few to many things.

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I am exceedingly happy to see this map in the top 16 and I was happy to vote for it to get there.

I do agree with the ever so many mentions of three dimensionality being a lack, probably to me the singularly greatest lack, as I can scarcely imagine even one group of players I know, that would not someone make that information relevant - regardless of how you give that information, it is necessary for the map.

Artistically (much as we should judge based on that) this is beautiful work.

Conceptually most of the choices feel good, even if your story idea for the map is more complex than what I would have deduced from the map alone, but that is to be expected.

So far a really strong set of entries.

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Congratulations on the top 32. I will admit to being a bit on the line where either this item was a great and funny idea or it was a joke item. That, for me, was a bit difficult in the voting.

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Congratulations on the third repeat of top 32. I on the... what? camp for the imagery, but it is thematically a tight item.

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Congratulations on the top 32! Good visual, but why at will abilities... also cold does feel a touch done, but when it all comes down to it, I think this is a good item. Do recall voting for it most of the times I saw it.

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Congratulations on making it into the top 32. Sadly I do not like earthbreaker, sundering or the somewhat misleading name. Great visuals and such, but... well, good work but the name itself is too much of an annoyance.

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Congratulations on the top 32! Neat item, but as has been said a little itsy bit boring. Neat, just... boring. Also I know this combat maneuver oriented bunch of characters, that would just go for trip instead, no matter what.

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Congratulations on the top 32! Very fond of the name and imagery and the theme works and I generally do not mind the abilities... but I'm not fond of this many penalties. Still, great job tying the abilities together.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I'm (like many) not much for single class items, but I am really very fond of investigators, and I do like that having an inspiration pool from a different source will also work. So I liked some things about this. But it not really terribly inspired, so it's a decent/good item, but I'm not amazed.

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Congratulations on the top 32!

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Congratulation on the top 32. I swear I still cannot decide if I rather like this or really do not like it. I do like that name and the idea is... interesting, but something is just not. Oh, well, anyway, congratulations.

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Congratulations on the top 32! I shall only add to the other comments that I too was rather fond of this item and that I forgive that spelling preference completely. I forever have to remember not to do it.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

Strangely, I do not at all remember this item from voting, so perhaps it's one I just haven't seen. Weee, new item.

Interesting function, little bit spell in a can. I'm somewhat happy that it isn't tower shield, for some reason.

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Congratulations on the top 32.

Unlike many, I saw this twice, both times very early on, and consequently, I barely remembered it now. I do remember liking it somewhat but not strongly, and while the imagery does appeal to me and the extra uses for poison are interesting, I do not think it completely caught my attention, due to so many already mentioned problems.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I agree with the majority of comments, as I consider this particular item neat in description, a little boring otherwise. Probably wouldn't take me many minutes to put the exact same range of abilities together on an underwater gun, so that's troublesome.

However, I really do like the imagery.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I like this item a lot for the flavor and the ability and I'm not greatly opposed to the resistance.

The name is a little unusual and do be careful with that, not everyone is like me and enjoys unusual words.

Also, it could be so much detailed and many of the critiques are valuable, but then I cannot at all resist the option of scaring lava-fearing players with this item. And the visuals are very nice.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

Not much to say that hasn't been said elsewhere, I think, but the difficult terrain was definitely the most inspiring part of this item for me. I'm suddenly happy most of my earthbreaker loving players do not vote or pay much attention to the contest.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I saw this item quite a few times and while I did not consider it among my very favorites, I do believe it got a some upvotes.

I could do something more impressive than the size changing, next to it, perhaps.

Well, regardless, congratulations.

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Congratulations on the top 32 and on apparently returning to it altogether frequently.

I do not like items with "fate" in the name or too intense in the concept... but this doesn't do any of the things that usually annoy me about those and with the theme the name even works, sort of. In other words, reading the name I think "oh no" and the, reading the items I find it extremely good.

I saw this a few times in voting and it was definitely among the items I greatly enjoyed.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I'm not as such opposed to the name, though it seems strange to call something a fang and then do a resizing shatter-y thing.

Most of this item seems solid and interesting though... I'm not really seeing the impressive.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

For many of the reasons already mentioned I really liked this item, even though I only ever saw it once or twice.
I like the name (a lot), but careful with ancient-esque or special words that are not commonly known. However, I like them, so don't leave them out on my account.

My primary problem would probably be that while the extra powers are fun, they don't really interact very much with the spells, except for thematically, which I really prefer to avoid an potential multiple spells in cans issues and I do wish that had been some.

Oh, and what is spiritual weapon doing here? I know it (kind of) fits the theme, but then again by that logic every spirit-themed, incorporeal oriented spell could fit. I personally think it might have been a better piece without it... I do not really see the purpose of having it there.

Still, congratulations again.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

I am not fond of at will use items. I'm just not overly fond of them. If priced correctly (which is an issue), they are typically too expensive for how often you really need them.

However, what I do like about this item is the visuals, which are both strong and evocative, so that part is definitely a strength. As mechanics and such goes, it could be much, much more elegant.

I don't know about the "humanoid face" I tend to like specific imagery, not picks something you find appropriate imagery.

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Congratulations on making the top 32.

Strangely I recall seeing your item maybe once... and that was early in the voting. The function is interesting, but as has been remarked, ghostbane dirge would really work well with this item.

Still, the basic idea works for me. Most things that need commenting have been said. With the word count being what it is I would have likely a little bit more description/flavor to make it look and sound interesting in some way.

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First of all, congratulations on making the top 32.

I saw this item a few times, though I'd have to look up my voting notes to tell you exactly how I felt at each point. In other words, I didn't feel captivated by it.

I like the idea of this staff and I do like the making it a non-staff item (a crook).

However, all problems aside, I just couldn't quite see this staff as more than a very large collection of spells and abilities, that tied together too loosely to really get to me.

Regardless, the idea has some shine and I wouldn't say I couldn't like this staff, but I do see issues, which when added to things like pricing, do find troublesome.

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First, congratulations on making the top 32.

I will admit that I'm not overly fond of this staff, though I do consider it interesting. I saw it a lot of times in voting and voted both for and against it at different points.

I do like the idea of spell stealing and I'm mostly fond of the name. However, I do agree with most of the objections noted in other comments.

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First, I just want to join everyone saying congratulations on making the top 32. I would definitely consider it deserved, though I don't remember seeing the staff more than once it does have one major advantage on me: particularly, I'm presently translating a different part of Aristotle's metaphysics into Danish, one which the entire "prime mover" argument relies heavily on. I am ever so happy the inspiration was Aristotle and will instantly forgive any incidental side connotations, because obviously, his ideas has influenced so many thoughts that avoiding them is... difficult.

So congratulations.

I do find the spell selection and theme very nice. I very much enjoy that it changes the spells it casts, something I considered very essential for staves to do, to avoid being mildly boring. It was not, I will admit, my nr. 1 favorite staff, maybe because I only saw it once or so, so it never got time to grow on me.

The first line of text is probably the single thing about this item that annoys me the most. "This slender silver cane feels more unwieldy than its low weight might suggest, as if a hidden force impeded any attempts to change its state of motion." That feels like it does something - as in somehow effectively weighs more or otherwise is not what it seems, which would be neat but... isn't there? Also "it's state of motion" is - while a very Aristotelian turn of phrase - somewhat exemplary of why Aristotle is sometimes considered a little weird to read - in other words the Platonist in me wants to ask "But what is a state of motion even?" And how does a staff have a state (somehow a constant attribute) of motion (meaning moving) when it is consistently carried around and such - does it somehow try not to be carried in anything but one particular way? I would go insane over that particular piece of flavor. I want to like it, but it confuses me.

I might also agree a bit on the spell selection needing to match class better. Could be circumvented, but... it's not neat.

But in total, I really do like this item. Congratulation again.

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The size for the map is jarring with my usual sense of metric measurements. It is so very close to a standard A4 page, and yet not there. How much easier sketching would be. I guess I can spend some preparation time adjusting sketching paper sizes.

Can't help thinking of the map as not just a location, but a location in some sort of situation, with something dynamic to the style. Difficult to put in clear 2 dimensional mapping.

How would adding side views or in other ways different perspectives on the same location conform to the contest rules? I can imagine a number of situations where it would substantially increase clarity and several of the published maps does use such techniques.

And how about (if one chooses to add it) the legend for the map (^ = mountain, green circle = tree, etc)? Does that go into the dimensions or separate?

Others have asked about title and brief descriptive text, so I'll just add that I'm curious to see what the rules will say for those points as well.

All in all, interesting round.

Unlike many, who worry about artistic talent being weighed too highly, I kind of worry about getting carried away artistically, to begin adding all manner of touches that would not assist the clarity but only the appearance or realism. Going too far in any direction seems... well, risky.

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Ah, it is indeed

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So next countdown is 7 days to the reveal, yes/no?

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But I swear, 10 votes more should have done it. Sigh. Oh well... it's not like there isn't five pages of translation and less than 2 weeks to finish them... and that deadline is some kind of important so I am at peace about the relative dedications... anyone else having "one-more-vote" regrets?

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Oh, I guess I wasn't meant to be Marathon voter anyway... but it was hardly the third most important thing today... (maybe the fourth or fifth)

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Hmm, discovered the miscount for my supposed to be 1020+ votes.

Well, still plenty of time to fix that, now, and I'm enjoying the item pairs I'm seeing at this point immensely.

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Well, due unexpected illness and important exams and whatnot, I can look in peace at the champion voter and think... "some other year. Maybe."

Enjoying the post-cull items, but that's to be expected, I guess. Haven't seen mine, but I feel peaceful about it. By now, I've seen enough items that I would enjoy seeing in the top 32.

Oh, who am I kidding as much time as I can manage up to the deadline later today shall be spent voting until I see my own item. Or resign myself to looking at the list. Hmm. Oh well.

Still, I have seen a few items that I would have THOUGHT to have been culled. Someone must like these things a lot more than I do. Not many of them, but then taste is individual.

Edit: Well, huh, by my count that was over 1000 votes. Guess I'll give it a dozen more and an hour to see if it changes it's mind.

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So I’ve had two rounds of voting, I feel. One pre-break, one after. Generally I would say that the early parts of the first voting period and the early parts of the post-break voting period have been the most enjoyable. More items are unfamiliar, exciting and do not come with strong feelings attached (positive or negative). This means I may have voted very differently on some items.

I have been shifting back and forth on practically all manners of voting (not entirely a bad thing, I believe). Some days/hours, the shorter entry has an advantage (I just don’t feel like reading long, complicated entries just now). Other times, the shorter entry gets a lot of scrutiny about the details it for some reason did NOT choose to spend the last 100+ words including. Sometimes, bad format is just too much. Other times, as long as there’s some pretense at formatting, I’m good.

So important fields have been:

  • Name. Not an auto-downvote thing (nothing is), but apart from a quick sense of apparent length, name will always be my first impression.
  • Formatting. Really, just having the right things, in a reasonable layout works.
  • Novelty. I dislike items that do something I have seen (not in the contest or from books, but in the game, before). It’s boring.
  • Comprehensibility. I’m not talking perfect writing, with no grammar mistakes, no spelling errors and no passives. Just... understandable. If I do not understand what an item is even trying to tell me it does, I cannot in good conscience vote for it. *]Continuous, at will or otherwise constant-whenever-even-remotely-relevant spell-effects. For one, it takes me less than a minute to write up an item that does any spell, all the time and find its price. That will never, ever be Superstar and nor should a Superstar item have any realistic need to do it, even as a side effect.
  • Items that bypass Spellcraft, either by not needing it to be understood or by fooling it or by being incomprehensible even to it. They’re either making a choice they have no right to (GMs may house rule as they wish), cursed items (or playing far too much with the line) or just plain breaking the rules. Except the one item that does something perfectly brilliant, that I wish more items did, with a perfectly sensible reason.
  • Items with drawbacks. Not that THE right drawback cannot make an item perfect, but adding drawback messes with the line to cursed items, pricing and a whole host of other things, that just aren’t worthwhile for what they do.
  • Items that a) kills you or b) only does something upon killing you. A) is probably a cursed item, b) is likely to be sold in favor of something that keeps you from dying or at least does something until you die.
  • Camping/Safety/Mapping items. Partially because the advice against these exist, partially because honestly, it creates GM/player hostility by messing around with the game plan, partially because it isn’t likely to be interesting anyway.
  • Background story. The key here is hint, don’t give detail. No one (Not that many, anyway) will blame you for having a single line giving some vague, but generally useful piece of tie in to the campaign. Equally few are likely to mind if you have Golarion deity, location or such somewhere in the description. But don’t give me line upon line of background, character dialogue, etc. While amusing, well-written and interesting, this is neither the place, nor the time, nor something, that actually improves the item. Often, it provides a perfectly spurious theme for unrelated item powers.

    Essentially my voting process comes down to “being the last item of the pair to give me an excuse to vote for the other one”.
    I have in no way mentioned everything (but most things I care about have been mentioned), but essentially, items I enjoy voting for are flavorful, elegant, (somewhat formatted), novel, useful, unique, memorable and in general does not give any reason to dislike them.

    I rather do like tech items. Most are in my opinion carefully and thoughtfully done compared to comparable non-tech items.
    Regarding earthbreakers, wind items, dimension door items, etc. I have probably seen about as many "channeling" or "fire" or "ice" related items. I believe that the primary reason the less common things, that occur multiple times in the pile of items, get noticed more (from a psychological/behavioral science point of view, I believe that makes sense). Ergo even if there is only 3 of 1000+ items, that does something with glass-blowing, these three items would be enormously remarkable next to dozens of items that are related to running (I have not seen any items that does any of these things and as such I think them safe examples). The small, unique repeat as such is far more attention-demanding than the large, common repeat. This is not (only) a bad thing for the unique items. It just means they get talked about because people notice them (actually, this might, scientifically speaking, correlate vaguely with them acquiring more votes on average, than the average "common" item).

    But I ramble. Most of this has been said before.

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    Mantra: Trust the voting process. Trust that there is enough great, superstar items that not even good, but annoying items will get close to the top 32. Trust the judges to pick the very best of the very best.

    Remain sane. Over 700 votes given now. Think I'm around 600 unique items, though I haven't crosschecked my lists yet.

    Time to call it a ... hmm, very early morning actually. Well, then. Merry Christmas everyone. May your voting be bright and inspiring and not too troublesome.

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    I want to vote for you, sort of almost wondrous item. But honestly, you could at least pretend a little harder to be what you should be to belong in this competition. Well, I guess the actually belonging item that I do not like will get the vote. This once.

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    Oh there's a lance. I'd been wondering if I was going to get to see one of those. Neat enough. And it's up against the pen, which thinks it's mightier. I disagree in this case. The longer piece of weaponry wins the day.

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    Goes to show that I am indeed crazy that I missed this place, while of for one awkward celebration. And here I thought it would be semi-full of hate.

    Okay, I know...

    Do I ever not want to vote for you item vs. Item that I really, really will not vote for... Oh, well, turns out I did in fact want to vote for item 1.

    With that name, item, I have to really dislike the other one to vote for you. Look, I didn't dislike the other one enough. There you go. Stop being called that, and we'll talk. Maybe. (I don't actually like what you do either, though, but it would improve you)

    I'm on-and-of making up different names that I like better for items. Some of them might deserve it, but mostly I'm a bit bored.

    Shield that does not so shield-ly thing vs. this pesky rod that does... something. Oh, well, I kind of like you anyway not-shield-ly shield.

    Hey! New item! Shiny! Now why do you have to do something horrible with no understanding of variance of power? Oh well, I like this rod anyhow, I want to go vote of this perfectly nice rod.

    On a side note all this talk about pricing is making me wish I hadn't gotten the idea for my item 2 days before deadline and written it up on deadline day AFTER my exam. I would have liked to do some semi-decent calculations. But I really didn't have time in the two hours I spent on it. Well. Hopefully my more go-with-what-feels-right price will work. I do so wish there had been something remotely similar to compare to or a spell that did something more like what I wanted to base the price on. Bah. You guys are making me paranoid after all. I promise, I'll never, ever price something based on what feels nice again. I'll do the boring calculation and feel justified about my pricing.

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    I do not like - really, not at all - items that cannot even make up their mind about what they want to be called. Your title calls you one thing, silly item, but literally the next line calls you something else.

    And you, other item, I don't NEED three different names for the same thing. I'm not against high word count, but spend it telling me something I care about. Please?

    Other than that, I actually feel that most votes at this point are between items that are close enough that sorting which one is better is actually relevant. Even if I know which one that is 10-20 seconds into the timer. That just means I get to work on map idea #3 for a while. Wait, make that #4. #3 doesn't need more development at this point.

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    I neeeeeveeer get to sneak attack item. Blah. You're not trying hard enough. Declaring Sneak attack regardless... oh stop it. Oh well, I guess the rod that modifies walking when you hold it (in your HAND) wins.

    Rods that are held shouldn't affect how you walk. If your really cool wondrous item (boots) did something with movement, couldn't you have put it in an armor? That annoys me less.

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    I am no longer reading items I have seen more than twice. If they haven't impressed me yet then... well, then they are not likely to. Only in very close ties do I reread things I've seen more than twice. As an aside, I get relatively few things, that I haven't seen twice, and most of those are all new and never to be seen again, apparently. With all the triple views I am starting to hope to see my own item again, if only to see what it comes up paired against. Haven't seen it since around vote 50 or so and that was much too early to judge anything by what things came up against.

    Armors are either cursed or boring or pretty awesome.
    Shields are either strange, boring or awesome.
    Weapons come in everything from cursed to artifact to boring to mediocre to awesome.
    Rods are typically decent, with a few falling into either slightly worse or slightly more awesome. And generally, I like rod that affect other things or do things with skills. Rods that try to be weapons, should just go be weapons.
    Rings are... all over the place, much like weapons. Fewer of the cursed or artifact ones, but more of the vaguely boring.
    Staves are... either kind of horrifying, kind of okay, but boring, or really awesome. No real middle ground.

    I'm becoming immune to items that tell me that they usually or often something or appear like something but isn't. Yeah, yeah, heard it before, now what do you actually DO? However, I guess that means I down vote them less?

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    Why are you all so keen on betraying people, items? Haven't you been told it isn't nice?

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    On one hand, I don't want to vote for:
    X boring weapon that is really just a siac with no description or excitement

    On the other hand, the other one is:
    Multiple items
    Also undescribed
    Also pretty much a few canned spells.

    Oh, well, there you go boring siac - at least I liked your name. Now don't come back until you get paired with something that I want to vote for.

    Oh, and hello dedicated voter tag. Now I don't have to feel like I'm being like the last years where I totally missed the voting.

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