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Joana wrote:
Lico wrote:

【1】、How does the 【Thistle Arrow】 in 【Adventurer's Armory】 actually works. According to the text, it will "deal damage as a bleed effect for 1d6 rounds after a hit". But it doesn't describe the actual damage of this "bleed effect". So I wonder how should I deal with it.

Someone believe that this "bleed damage" is equal to the damage of the range attack (which means bleed damage = weapon damage + damage from other sources - DR(if couldn't passed) - hardness (if couldn't ignore)). And it wouldn't deal the normal damage in the attacker's round. Instead, the target will take the bleed damage at the beginning of its turn.

But I couldn't find any evidence to support or deny this opinion. Thus I wonder the design purpose of this equipmet and suggestions from you.

I am not Mark, but the thistle arrow was reprinted/updated to PfRPG in Adventurer's Armory from the old, out-of-print 3.5 Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting book, where it read like this:

Thistle Arrow wrote:
These arrows are a specialty of the Ekujae shamans, who craft the arrowheads out of the thistles of a toxic plant that most creatures find highly caustic. They deal normal damage but then become embedded in the wound and deal an additional 1 point of damage each round for 1d6 rounds from their irritating sap. Creatures immune to poison are immune to this extra damage. A creature can remove an embedded thistle arrow as a move action without provoking attacks of opportunity, but doing so deals an additional 1d3 points of damage as the thorny barbs are pulled free. A DC 12 Heal check (made as a standard action) can pull free a thistle arrow's head without dealing any additional damage. A single thistle arrow costs 1 gp.

Knowing the original text might help you make a ruling on the PfRPG version.

I have already read that text. But according to the Adventurer's Armory, it says "This book updates several items from the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting to the Pathfinder RPG rules.Items not listed may be used without conversion." Which means the effect of this equipment has already been changed to some extent. However it doesn't provide a clear statement (not as clear as the old version) about how it works. Thus I want to know the design purpose of these special arrows.

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Greetings, Mark, I have met a few new questions while playing pathfinder games with my friends. And I check numbers of sources and couldn't find precise answers Thus I pray for your wisdom again.

【1】、How does the 【Thistle Arrow】 in 【Adventurer's Armory】 actually works. According to the text, it will "deal damage as a bleed effect for 1d6 rounds after a hit". But it doesn't describe the actual damage of this "bleed effect". So I wonder how should I deal with it.

Someone believe that this "bleed damage" is equal to the damage of the range attack (which means bleed damage = weapon damage + damage from other sources - DR(if couldn't passed) - hardness (if couldn't ignore)). And it wouldn't deal the normal damage in the attacker's round. Instead, the target will take the bleed damage at the beginning of its turn.

But I couldn't find any evidence to support or deny this opinion. Thus I wonder the design purpose of this equipmet and suggestions from you.

【2】Do nature attacks such as claws or other options count as "wielded"? This question really puzzle me since there is no clearly statement about it in Pathfinder Games(Although it is clear in Starfinder).

Sincerely thanks and looking forward to your reply.

(I have check the whole text before it was submitted to the thread thus there will be no more "Second Question One" this time ^0^)

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Mark Seifter wrote:
Lico wrote:

Greetings, Mark, as a new Pathfinder player, I quite puzzle about the description of 【blunt arrow】 in Ultimate Equipment and have a few questions about it.

1,According to the statement of these ammunitions, their blunt arrowheads are made of wood. Thus I wonder whether blunt arrows with metal arrowheads are leagl in games. (Although it seems make sense in reality.)

1,I check the whole Ultimate Equipment and didn't find any description about "blunt bolts" or "blunt type" of other ammunitions. Does it means that only "arrows" has blunt version in Pathfinder games?

Looking forward to you reply.

Question 1: It says they are made of wood, so by strict rules they surely are made of wood. However, if you want to dig deeper and enter the deep end of gray areas, you could try to stick your wooden arrow over a fire and melt a metal weapon blanch onto it somehow without harming the wood. Perhaps fire protection magic would help? (it usually protects your gear too)

Question 1 (the second Question 1): This is also technically true, though blunt bolts are not exactly a stretch either if your group is cool with them.

Sincerely thanks for your suggestion, sorry for my mistake of "Second Question 1" XD

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Greetings, Mark, as a new Pathfinder player, I quite puzzle about the description of 【blunt arrow】 in Ultimate Equipment and have a few questions about it.

1,According to the statement of these ammunitions, their blunt arrowheads are made of wood. Thus I wonder whether blunt arrows with metal arrowheads are leagl in games. (Although it seems make sense in reality.)

1,I check the whole Ultimate Equipment and didn't find any description about "blunt bolts" or "blunt type" of other ammunitions. Does it means that only "arrows" has blunt version in Pathfinder games?

Looking forward to you reply.