Trill, Lissa's Familiar wrote:
Correct! (as is Emeric Tusan) This is me, at 14th level, assuming I don't get a better headband of inspired wisdom anyway.
My priestess of Shelyn picked up a temporary feat from Crystal's Harrowing at the Grand Convocation, and she chose Heighten Spell. She has been handing out Heightened continual flame each scenario, asking in return only that the player describe a loving act of compassion that their PC performs, invoking Shelyn's name. That's harder for some PCs than others! So far, no converts to Shelyn. Another cleric of Iomedae in our region managed to convert a CN witch to worship the Inheritor (and slowly strive to switch to LN) through his amazing support abilities.
The Beard wrote:
Posting as Lasair Alant, Cleric of Shelyn Depending on the circumstances, this is either contrary to the Eternal Rose's doctrine (and more like her older chaotic self before her mother died) or at least not specifically relevant to fulfilling her code in any way. You may have mistaken her for Calistria, the Savored Sting? Or perhaps Arshea, the Spirit of Abandon. Or one of several evil entities I will not mention here to avoid their eyes upon us. For a concise guide to the Eternal Rose's dogma, I recommend this short description that I previously wrote as a chronicle.
Netopalis wrote:
My -1 character, a cleric of Shelyn, would have not only fully supported every decision but would have also been extremely shocked that the group was shocked. This is exemplary of exactly what you'd expect from a well-RPed paladin of Shelyn. Maybe it's just playing through Council of Thieves with two paladins of Shelyn in the group that has me used to them.
Doriam Karles wrote:
Having read one such mission, if he knew of the treachery, I think he would have mentioned it in his missive rather than the reasons he gave for killing the Pathfinder in question. I do find it strange though not unexpected that your main complaint is with the cannibalism and not anything else she claimed. I feel cannibalism, if it is part of that person's culture, is a far lesser issue than the others she raised, though I know that there is a healthy debate about it. She's seen what she's seen. It's up to us to try to show her what's true by example. If only she had met my friend Karnath, an honorable Mwangi barbarian in service of Andoran, or others like him, perhaps she could see that there are many different sorts among the agents of Andoran.
graywulfe wrote:
From what I recall, she only linked Maldris directly to the assassinations. I can confirm he requested assassinations of fellow Pathfinders on two occasions. In the end, the Pathfinders went rogue and conflict with those fellow Pathfinders proved to be inevitable, but Maldris asked for them to be killed before he or any of us knew that fact. As to the cannibalism, the only Andoran cannibal I know is one of the most honorable members of the faction I've ever met. He's actually a pacifist. However, I doubt that's what she was talking about. From what I've heard, sometimes Andoran faction characters in her area like to eat intelligent creatures that aren't human, like dragons and such. Maybe it's a regional meme like bribing for Dexios's area.
*Stirring from her woodworking in the corner, a strangely fey looking woman with a holy symbol of Shelyn looks up at Fasch's egress then turns to Doriam.* That one speaks from experience, but hers has been clouded by what portions of Andoran and its agents she has seen. Maldris is a pompous arrogant blowhard, but he really does believe that what he is doing is helping people across the Inner Sea. *She turns to introduce herself, smiling.* I am Lasair Alant, devotee of the Eternal Rose. I'll admit that some of the missions I've seen when I've been ask to team up with Andoran because Ollysta Zadrian doesn't have a mission for me have been extremely distasteful, but also sometimes in those situations Colson Maldris has asked me to perform an act of righteousness that pleases the Eternal Rose. I came to the Silver Crusade from the Qadira faction before Ollysta Zadrian founded our glorious crusade, and I am truly grateful for a faction that fits my feelings much better than my former one, but I will say Doriam that from my unique perspective of being sent on Qadiran and Andoran missions as well as Silver Crusade, the Andoran missions were shadier on average than the Qadiran missions, even though the Qadiran missions were issued by Pasha Muhlia al Jakri, who I later discovered to be an assassin!
Mikaze wrote: Having not read The Disappeared, I don't know where that targetted art falls. I can see it going either way. Maybe it's just porn. Or maybe it is something genuinely dangerous, like the abovementioned infohazard. The painting was harmless. If Ollysta had given me that mission, I would have endeavored to enhance the painting into a greater work of art by adding artistic flourishes which hopefully could mollify her ire at seeing her goddess depicted in such a fashion. Although the instruction was to destroy the painting, hopefully she would have seen fit to grant that I had achieved her objective.
Fromper wrote: Yeah, you don't see enough Shelyn worshipers. I keep thinking a cleric of Shelyn would be cool. I've never seen one, and she gets some good domains, plus a reach weapon as her favored weapon, which is great for a melee cleric. [/offtopic] If I ever find my way to your lands, so far afield from the Eternal Rose's message, I shall endeavor to spread her teachings to your people.
Katisha wrote:
The even more intriguing question is whether I can cast heightened continual flame on my friends' gear and have them keep that effect. This is particularly important for me since I will soon be losing the ability to heighten spells, as I only received it from a strange Harrowing--if I want to help my friends in this way, I'll need to do it soon.
The Eternal Rose's love and forgiveness are infinite, Peekasso. It takes great courage and strength of heart to admit your mistakes, reflect on them, and strive to move ever onwards. May Shelyn guide your heart to its truest form of expression, your mind to peace and contentment, and your hands to the canvas of life before you. If you ever seek guidance or counsel, do not hesitate to look for me at the temple of the Eternal Rose or the Grand Lodge.
Mike Lindner wrote:
Anything at hand is great as long as you make sure it's in the possession of your friendly divine caster. ^_~
David Montgomery wrote: Yes, it is a bit of a bummer. But some players who know they are a little squishier have backup plans. Some players will keep a scroll of Breath of Life in case they go down, and have it around for a friendly Cleric to try to revive them quickly after they go down. Others don't, because they don't want to spend money on contingency plans. This is a very good idea, but you need to make sure the cleric is carrying the scroll in a scroll case at her side at all times so she can withdraw it as part of her move action to get up to you and still cast it as her standard. If you forget to hand over the scroll to the cleric, she can't possibly save you unless you lucked out and died adjacent to her. This happened to me on one of my adventures, except that they didn't die, Shelyn be praised. Afterwards the other player mentioned that they had felt safe going in because they knew they had a scroll of Breath of Life, and I pointed out that I, and other clerics like me (or oracles of course, in deference to that Igor fellow I've heard about in the Grand Lodge), can't save you if you don't give me the scroll at the beginning of the adventure, or at least before you get killed.
Son of the Veterinarian wrote:
The Eternal Rose holds the Whisperer of Souls while the Dark Prince holds all that remain of their father Thron. As proud of his handiwork as he may be, surely he would agree to a trade for the powerful glaive, but she still holds out hope that without the glaive's corrupting influence, some day the old Dou Bral will be able to return, allowing her to save both her father and her brother. And so holds an uneasy truce between brother and sister.
Malleus Maleficarum wrote:
No. DCs are never adjusted by anything that gives a bonus on checks. Similarly, something that gives a bonus to "all Dexterity based saves and checks", if it existed, would raise Reflex saves but not AC (which is a static number and not a check). Even though it does not help you in this case, may the blessings of the Eternal Rose be with you. |
