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Rise from the dead and breath new life into this debate!

Examples:

The guy that complained about reach weapons.

Every other diagonal being double movement.

These aren't new concepts and if people don't get them they need to go back to math class. They existed in 3.5, 3.0 and other games as well.

I hate the rules that a few of you got wrong and then posted in a thread about hating.

Please go re-read rules before you rant about hating them.

Interesting...interesting...

Elamdri wrote:

One cannot mathematically be Half Orc, Half Elf, and Half Human. ;)

No, but you could be 1/2 Orc, 3/8 Human, and 1/8 Elf.

Generation 1:
Elf + Human A = Half-Elf
Human B + Human C = Human D

Orc A + Orc B = Orc C
Orc D + Orc E = Orc F

Generation 2:
Half-Elf + Human D = Human E (w/ Racial Heritage(elf))
Orc C + Orc F = Orc G

Generation 3:
Human E + Orc G = Half-Orc (w/ Racial Heritage(elf))

So in this situation since he doesn't actually meet the prerequisite of being HALF-Elf does that mean you can't be a Bramble Brewer?

One cannot mathematically be Half Orc, Half Elf, and Half Human. ;)

Hey keep your reality out of my phantasy!

I'm not trying to be. Maybe I'm failing to understand what you're asking?

I am just trying to clarify where everyone is coming from in relation to everything so I can possibly use this information in the future.

Invisible Fog wrote:

But a Half-Orc is both Human and Orc. Therefore he qualifies for Racial Heritage and can add Half-Elf or even Elf to his subtypes making him Half Orc, Human and Elf.

Yes. As we both said. That's what Racial Heritage does. Takes anyone with the human subtype and adds another.

If you are a Half-Orc with Racial Heritage (Half-Elf) you can be a Bramble Brewer, because you are treated as a Half-elf. Arguably, if you go Racial Heritage(Elf), you also qualify, since you are both Human and Elf. If you are just a Half-Orc, you can't. You have the Human Subtype, but that isn't enough.
Why is this hard?

Why is not being a jerk so hard?

But a Half-Orc is both Human and Orc. Therefore he qualifies for Racial Heritage and can add Half-Elf or even Elf to his subtypes making him Half Orc, Human and Elf.

Furthermore, from the ARG

ARG wrote:

Humanoid races have few or no supernatural or spell-like abilities, but most can speak and have well-developed societies. Humanoids are usually Small or Medium, unless they have the giant subtype, in which case they are Large. Every humanoid creature also has a subtype to match its race, such as human, giant, goblinoid, reptilian, or tengu. If you are making a new humanoid race, you should either find an existing subtype to match or make a new one by using the name of the race as the subtype. If you are making a half-breed race, it should have the racial type of both parent races. For example, a half-elf has both the human and the elf subtypes. Subtypes are often important to qualify for other racial abilities and feats. If a humanoid has a racial subtype, it is considered a member of that race in the case of race prerequisites. A humanoid race has the following features.

source

Half-Orc is a Humanoid(human, orc). Having the appropriate racial sub-type qualifies you for racial abilities and feats in the case of race prereqs. It's right there in black and white.

So what you are saying is if I am Half-Orc then I qualify to be a Bramble Brewer because I meet half of the requirements to be one?

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