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Igdus had remained at the camp, atop the wagon he had been perched on. Someone needed to keep watch for threats. Seeing as their plan had glaring holes to be exploited by enemies in it. He had ignored all the baseless nonsense Rhun had gone on about. She was just justifying his original reasons for secrecy, recklessness. He kept vigilant for real dangers regardless, if he was an enemy this would be a good opportunity. "Cityfolk." He whispered the curse, let the Gnarley have them and their holier then thou dogma. At least with no one near by he could make use of his abilities without worry of discovery. Making sure the coast is clear before doing so. His senses extending beyond their already exceptional range. Granted they still fell short of his true form's reach, such were the drawbacks of his lesser self.
That's the second post that was ruined. Bloody maintenance. I think I'm going to have the DM bot me until this little part is over. I may break something if I fail on a third attempt. -.-
I'm semi back, internet is up by moving is still going on. Also I had a post but took to long in writing it. So now it's worthless and you crazy people are in the forest poking around in the dark. xP I'll have something tomorrow hopefully.
We are not taking over a city. We are building our own. Also it takes more then a rumor to do anything to a settlement of Lycan. At that point it wouldn't matter or could be countered. This is all assuming they survive us telling the city their staying in about them.
That doesn't make sense to me. Your going to blame vampires getting into your city on random caravan guards who are guarding? Your expecting more from hired muscle then actual government law enforcement. Sense the vamps got out of one city already in order to get to a new one. Which they will have to get pass again to enter I will add. Their is no reasonable way to blame us for the vamps. Anyways who is to say this is the first or only vamp run. They may already have vamps in our destination waiting for their fellows. A lot of assumptions and what if. Igdus stance is doing his job, not going to involve himself in a deathwish.
I doubt Marya has been dominated. If she was then she would have done more to shut Rhun down. Also our secret would be exposed or used against us. That aside we can't beat a vampire, no matter how you slice it at the moment. You will only get yourself and others killed while dooming our mission. Possibly unleashing a undead plague upon the forest if they end up trapped rather then moving through as intended. Which will cause all sorts of problems for the region. I don't see the issue with doing our job. Letting the cities guards and church know after we arrive. Then go about our business while they do there's. No one is going to blame common caravan guards for not picking a fight with legendary monsters like vampires without so much as a vial of holy water.
Still sick, still moving, and internet has fallen. So any post will likely be from my phone for a while. Now to the game. Igdus did keep his beak shut and ran interference to avoid this very thing, so some PCs forced the issue not all thank you very much. This bird don't play with vamps. ;)
This time Marya was in the wrong and he would be clear why even with a lowered voice. "She is to volatile, reckless, and overestimates herself. You should not have left her alone. A lot of harm can come from untended talk." He had warned of this, Marya had just gambled with their mission.
The move is back on and now I am sick. So my posting may be slow.
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Our bonus abilities only apply when we are in hybrid or animal form. I have had Igdus hybrid sheet in his profile sense we started as he gets a good boast in abilities while in his hybrid form. Our abilities are drawn from our animals. In the case of werebats that would be the Dire Bat which has a blindsense of 40 ft. But I would still wait for the DM to confirm.
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Igdus shakes his head at Gerwyn. "Leave it. It's not our business what goes on inside the wagon. More so the merchants guards will stop you or have words for you after if your lucky. Worse if your not, they'll be in the right at that. Wait for Marya, we don't need to start trouble behind her back." They needed to get to their destination quickly. The sooner the questionable cargo was delivered the better for all involved. The Gnarley most of all, the home of his people.
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I have access to the web again but the move is still being problematic, so expect a slow down in my posting from normal. But the silence has hopefully ended.
I am packing up the computer today to move. So I won't be posting for a while. DM PC me as needed. I'll let you know when I am up and running again.
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Nope direct sunlight is not just sunlight of any kind. Tree cover does effect it which gives it time to attack, escape, or hide. Also consider how the merchant and his personal bodyguards are, your not getting near it without them getting in the way is my guess. As for vampires sleeping during the day. That's a DM call. Undead don't need sleep and nothing in the template requires it from the vampire as far as I know. As for the wooden stake, that renders them permanently helpless until removed. Unless you cut off their head and use holy water on them. So even if we did all that, we have no holy water. Granted if you managed to stake them you could just drag them out into the open and cut some tree cover out of the way. At which point the sunlight would do your work for you.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, that was in response to Vaki's quote.
Yeah, call me a realist. I would never consider not risking your life and safety on a suspicion to be a kind of evil. I'm a fan of reasonable folk, very much against the self righteous in all forms. That's how holy wars come about. Also I think we are missing the point a little. Why not simply wait until we get to the city and let the local guard and church know. They unlike us have both the ability and resources to deal with vampires. Not to mention the legal right to search and seize the merchant's goods. Committing criminal acts in the course of doing "good" is not going to go over well with anyone in authority or serve anyone. OOC we can't fight a vampire. We have nothing that will bypass their defenses. We would have to pour on a ton of damage to weaken them enough to incapacitate them. Something I doubt considering we are only level 2. That's assuming they don't just run or dominate everyone thanks to their many granted abilities and 5 HD requirement. Which brings me to another point, how do you know who is working with the vampire or simple under it's mental control. You could kill innocent people that are just being magically controlled. Which if they are then the vampire will be well aware and prepared for anything we do. Sense they can spy on the camp through the eyes of the very people they control. Not much else to do in a wagon/coffin all the time.
Alignments don't enforce behavior, they are a product of behavior. If your alignment needs to be changed then that's the DMs realm. Also you can live in a evil place and be good. Good does not mean being foolish or reckless. Someone who helps the sick for free but does not try to take on the evil guardsmen in charge of the evil city in a evil nation, would still be good in my book for example. One evil or neutral act does not shift your alignment, unless it's a huge one, the same for inaction. Here is a good guideline but I wouldn't consider it set in stone. Their is a level of perspective to this stuff after all. :) Edit- Rhun we are still pretty much in the start. In game we have not gotten very far, still on the first mission. A common thing in pbp, wouldn't make snap judgements. You could PM the DM or ask here.
Igdus is N and that's how I play him. :) Igdus is not going to challenge vampires, he knows enough that it's a no win fight. More so to what end, provoke said vampires by robbing them of a food supply that's not him. Even if he survived said vampires will now be unleashed in the forest his people and family call home. He prefers they stay hidden, well fed, and leave the forest without incident. As to Rhun's options. Igdus was just practical about it as always. Frankly he considers Rhun the most "evil" of the group based off her behavior. Griswold comes in second as aggressive but not evil, he swings more the other way. I think your mistaking people not giving you blow back over it as approval. Seems more like people trying to avoid a conflict or arguement with no progressive end with Rhun. She tends to attack anyone that openly disagrees. The majority chose not to kill or maim them in any way, while Rhun and Vaki were the odd ones out if I remember right. That should really say it all.
I just wanted to say that's why everything is "lemon fresh" and was setting you up. But yeah a 0 level spell can clean up anything. :P As for alias, it keeps things on track and separated to me. Personally it helps remember things about my own PC and others when used. I tend not to connect people's main with their alias. Also I see no need to as every game is different and has nothing to do with others. Some people also tend to connect PCs with people as if their character is their actually personality. Like you think a actor is evil in real life because he plays alot of bad guy roles for example. When it should be a similar disconnect here. Every game is it's own isolated experience and staying in that alias helps. At least that's the way I see it. Yeah I'm thinking vampire or vampire spawn is around ninety-ish percent it. Started picking up the clues sense our first face to face meeting with the merchant. More started dropping from there. Our DM drops them similar to a good writer. Granted I missed a few that I only realized later after I reread, again like a good book. >.<
Mix it with something to neutralize it maybe? Like lemons. Their are things that can mask or throw off scent you know. xP
It's not hard to drain nearly all the blood out of a body. You just hang the animal and let gravity do the work, even if it's mostly bled out already. You do that sense if you don't the blood could spoil the meat from my understanding. Also a simple bucket could be used to keep from making a mess on the floor. So it's completely do able. That said Igdus and myself think it's vampires and not just because of the body. My sharp eyed PC picked up on alot more stuff. But he is not about to rock the boat on that subject. ;P
"I have no use for much of this. The monies should be an even cut for us. While I have no objection to loaning what we do not use. I see no point in giving away anything that can be sold when we get to town." If the daytime guards had proven useful he would have offered a fair share. But those that do not hunt and contribute nothing will starve, not be rewarded for their inaction. Igdus catches the bat's act. He points to the offending hand. "You can leave that diamond your trying to palm. It would be best that what can not be valued out here be left with Maya, to be converted later for equal shares." He did not know if the man was insulting him or not. Considering he had seen nearly every danger they came across, some they did not. What else could it be to make the attempt in his presence. Then again he just gambled with trust out of greed. An unwise thing to do, perhaps more so with this group.
"Killing them in our custody once they have surrendered would be murder. Committing one crime for the attempt of another makes as much sense as punishing them for one yet committed. If it's decided and our employers have nothing to add, we have work to do." He looks over the collected spoils, they had to have some food. They didn't need more of their resources being drained. Just because they were spared did not mean they needed to feed them. A few days without food would not kill them and likely make them better prisoners, if they lacked any of their own.
Igdus still invisible moves to where no one will see him reappear, he then circles back into the group. Just in time to hear Rhun speak, if anyone knew what they were would they make the same or worse suggestions. He wasn't going to feed that fire anymore then he would any casual cruelty. "I suggest we strip them of their gear, bind them, and leave their fate to the law. Which happens to be our destination." If the bandits wanted to take their chances in the Gnarley without supplies or gear, he would let them. He doubted they would try the guards twice with their numbers lower and surprise lost. They would likely seek escape if anything else under their care.
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They weren't going to escape him that easily. Anyways the more prisoners they took, the more information they could gain about the area these bandits worked. Not to mention if his suspicions were correct, more blood on hand that was not his own the better. He picks out a fleeing bandit and sends his unseen magic to bring to life the very ground under his feet, the dirt opening like a maw to bite the bandit. Changing not only it's shape but substance as it became crystal.
My fault for the misinterpretation, Igdus used his invisibility power and moved to get a line of sight on the most bandits. Will post his round 4 actions shortly. He isn't going to let them run that easily. >:) Edit- At low levels combat never last long. Besides the meat shields no one really has the hp to take alot of hits on ether side. That's also the reason PC deaths happen very easy at low levels. Mooks are no joke at the beginning. :P
@Rhun
With everyone far enough away and with their own problems, he didn't intend on taking anymore wounds. In a blink he is gone both from sight and his cover as he moves to a better position with some distance between him and the enemies.
Igdus stays behind his cover, the enemies were being engaged by the others good enough. The bandits didn't seem to be very experienced.
Igdus simply keeps his cover and an eye out. He had warned them and the enemy did not seem very lethal. He felt no need to use his abilities in this case just yet.
Igdus was glad at least Marya was sense able. Who would have thought the wolf was the one listening to advice the most. He admitted he did not expect it. Sadly the bats were not surprising him. It had cost him his vantage point, not that he needed it with his abilities but it was a better cover, not to mention some of these people were starting to smell. His head suddenly flies towards a different direction, breaking his thoughts. He saw them, to close to waste any time. He backs up drawing his dagger. "On Guard! We got sneaks coming in from the forest fast!"
Igdus is just plain neutral. He only cares about what he is shown and treated like, could care less about that good and evil nonsense. People call lycans evil, when really some are just jerks like every other race has. :)
Your in the Gnarley, which means even at high noon your not getting direct sunlight. Which is why Igdus wants them out of the Gnarley. If they get loose they will effectively be trapped in the forest his people call home. That's going to get a lot of factions besides his own mad at you lot. Also pretty sure Rhun does not have that much gunpowder. Vampires are tough and heal quickly.
When you talk about wanting to beat/kill someone you don't like. Blood thirsty is being nice. ;P Yeah we may want to get a roll call going. OOC Sidenote: Most of us have no real way of hurting vampires much less killing them. Wooden objects don't do anything, unless their helpless. Silver only works if it's got magic in it as well, such as a +1 silver dagger. A silver dagger does not cut it. Sorry for the pun.
Igdus did not have infinite patience, more so for a blood thirsty dwarf. "I agree on keeping up our guard, as I have been doing from the start. Just as I have given warnings before. But if you think the merchant and his associates weak or foolish, your wrong." Did they think vampires or those that served them were easy enemies. It was only their desire to reach their destination that kept them in check. "If they suspect or are provoked, then without a doubt innocents will die. Considering how easy it was for one of them to get near you two and pass me. I suggest you leave well enough alone and do nothing to draw attention." He motions towards Rhun and Griswold. While he had not seen the event, based on what he was told after the fact. They already nearly met one of their cargo, only it's restraint saved them. It seemed they hadn't pieced it together.
Don't worry about Igdus, he may be crusty sense we are all still new (IC) but he is not evil or aggressive. Also while he likes meat, it's the animal kind, he does not nor has he ever eaten people. By the same token he does not begrudge nature and survival. So long as it's not his or kinsmen survival that is involved, fighting to stay alive is part of nature too. ;)
Was it so surprising that he did not share every suspicion with someone that dismissed them or acted impulsively. "My rights are my own. I have no interest in debating you, I rather deal with the problem at hand. Not throw a tantrum." He expected another rebuttal that he intended to ignore. City folk would talk themselves into the ground after all. That's why they were so blind to everything around them.
Igdus sighs, making no attempts to hide it. He ignored some of the nonsense to focus on the point. "I was hoping they would not be so sloppy. Even before we left their were signs, the gnolls were a blessing really. Yet it seems they have gotten comfortable and now noticed." He raises a hand at any incoming accusations. "I had no proof and thought it best not to share suspicions for this very reason." He looks at the dwarf, as he was reacting in the exact manner that would get them all killed. Justifying his predictions all to well. "At first I thought Maya knew of our employer's association, I noticed at our first meeting with him. Over time it became clear that was not true. Unless I am mistaken in that." He glances at Maya. "Ether way our job remains the same. As does the merchants objective, safe passage through the forest. Nothing good with come of pushing the merchant or his cargo. Their only interest seems to pass, I say let them."
Did anyone tell everyone else about whatever went on in the forest? I may have missed it but it seems like everyone is telling certain people, not the group.
Due to the hurricanes I may be slow to post or unable to. DM PC me if I don't post.
That's a "campaign" site, that could all be homebrew. May want to check with the DM about any lore not from an official source. As that tends to be the baseline, at least I use it that way. Werebears from the source books have a good alignment, that's why I figured they get along with others. All other lycans are neutral or evil inclined. Making good ones an exception not the rule. Flip that with the werebears, hence the odd one out dynamic between them. That was my understanding anyways. Edit- I just used the word "hence", I'm taking a break. -.-
Griswold, what book has all this werebear stuff?
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