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Personally I am loving all the new information on the Draconic Codex. I was worried that it would only reprint dragons from the three 2e bestiaries, but I am glad that there are some returning dragons from 1e like the time dragon, and brand new dragons like the mocking dragon.

The Mocking Dragon was from the first Bestiary. It just happened to be more copper-colored.

Never played SF1e, but I'm very interested in jumping in with 2e.

Six classes for the Core book seems low though, how does that compare to what's in 1e?

Technically Starfinder includes the classes in Pathfinder 2e as well. Give that fighter a Doshko.

Luis Loza confirmed in today's Paizo LIVE! that the dragon on the cover is in fact a Cinder Dragon. And as his spoiler for the segment, he's said that we'll get stats for the Cinder Dragon before the end of 2025!

(So, likely, stats for the Cinder Dragon won't be in *this* book, but in a future book to come out in 2025).

Dragon book, maybe?

I don't have divine mysteries on demiplane and I was able to see link to Naderi you posted .-. Turns out you can witness deities list without book I guess? I'm slightly confused

(Either way its handy, I can now update my PFS Damerrich champion without needing to wait web supplemental table to be out xD)

(nexus seems to have missed book had two versions of Lissala, the ancient version and modern version)

Yep... some data is free like on AoN.

I will them know about Lissala's second.

So no mention of Naderi in the book? Did she wander into the Hole of Disappearance along with the Egyptians or what?

Naderi is probably in a supplement. I see her in the table in the Nexus version of Divine Mysteries and here https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/naderi-rm

The Osirian gods are also in it as well.. so yeah...a supplement.

https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/sobek-rm

Can anyone link to or export the nexus supplement? Does anyone have a link/copy that can be shared. Note if its part of purchase just say so, not trying to request pay for content, but in the past online supplementals were not part of purchase and were issued for free.

The Nexus version of Divine Mysteries is a bit extra cost.. though if you have the Paizo pdf you pay less than if you do not. If you purchase books at Nexus,you get the pdf as well.

That said, you can find the info from the table on this link as well. https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities or specifically https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/naderi-rm and https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/milani-rm

Evan Tarlton wrote:

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

Evan Tarlton wrote:

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Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.

Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...

It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.

Naderi is in there.

Which page?

I'm assuming they mean the web supplemental table that only the subscribers got early and we haven't seen final version of it on public yet? But now I'm confused with mixed info

That must be it because I see Milani, Naderi, and others in the Nexus version of Divine Mysteries... but I just downloaded the pdf, and they are not in that.

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

Evan Tarlton wrote:

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Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.

Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...

Naderi is in the table... right after Milani.

Neither Milani nor Naderi are in the supplemental table.

They are in the Nexus version. I haven't downloaded the pdf yet.

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

Evan Tarlton wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.

Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...

It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.

Naderi is in there.

CorvusMask wrote:

Evan Tarlton wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.

Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...

Naderi is in the table... right after Milani.

Great job to the team for fixing it.

It may not be your first rodeo, but if you haven't heard they don't answer individual problems on the product discussions, so it might help to email CS or use the new portal to submit a ticket, if you haven't already.

Hopefully enough people are reporting the problem to get attention on it sooner, but that's not guaranteed to work.

Edit: Looks like it works for me, so it might be account specific.

I figured it was being worked on because others reported it. I actually haven't reported it because of that. But if people are going to discuss it in the thread, I should be able to reply with my experience. I wasn't asking for help. Just going along with the conversation.

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

Yep. And it just stays personalizing.

Yep, it stays like that until you click the title you're trying to download again.

So when you click the title the second time, does anything change?

I've been buying Paizo books for ages.. not my first rodeo.. yeah.. I've tried clicking on it more. It has no effect.

I've checked other downloads and they all work fine.

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

The problem is mine never gets to the point where there is a "problems link" because nothing is being downloaded at all.

Do you see the "Personalizing" notification?

Yep. And it just stays personalizing.

So yesterday, as reported, I couldn't download this. Today...

The website says the zip file is 63.95 MB. Downloaded, got a 177 byte zip file. Tried the "problems? click here" link, got a 177 byte zip file. Unzipped it, got a zero byte file named "PZO2106E (ORC) - Flip-Mat". :-(

The problem is mine never gets to the point where there is a "problems link" because nothing is being downloaded at all.

Beginner Box Bestiary changes: (I have ommitted certain changes that are most likely made for the beginner box (like simplifying poisons) or a couple creatures that had ONLY some small numerical changes)

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Sounds good! Wish I could download. lol

I had the problem with both the Beginner Boxes (ORC AND OGL). I had to click the link that said, "Problems downloading this file? Click here.” and it refreshed the links and they worked today, about an hour ago. Although it didn’t work last night. I noticed that the file size went from something like 177 bytes to 63.94 MB. So try that, it might work for you too.

For me it gets stuck on personalizing.. so that link never comes up.

Neither the ORC version or OGL version are working for me.

I really wish the samsaran was a versatile heritage, mostly to make the options it would open up in Starfinder 2E. It seems really limiting that only human/humanoids would be able to begin a cycle of earthly reincarnations. In Starfinder it would be pretty cool if you could have samsaran from all the various galactic cultures and heritages.

Samsarans are just humanoids that reincarnate as part of their life cycle as long as they maintain harmony. Basically they become their own child. There is nothing to say there can be no other reincarnating ancestries, but Samsarans are their own thing. I do think a reincarnation versatile heritage would be neat though.

Huh, I was not expecting three entirely new ancestries, I was expecting like the Impossible Kingdom Book.

Did they explain anything about the Wayang?

There are more than 3 new... Tanuki as well.

In the Sky King Tomb's Players Guide -- there are two Dwarven high priests listed as Vanth and Arridor Orridus. As far as I can see no additional description of a clan by this name exists anywhere. However, a clan called Oriddus exists in Lost Omens Highhelm. Coincidence or misprint? Does anyone know if they're two separate clans or just a minor mistake?

Considering those characters are mentioned in Highhelm, that's a typo In fact, their names are spelled the same in Highhelm, even though the Clan is spelled differently in Highhelm... so my guess is the clan write-up is where the typo lies...

Either that or it is similar to the difference between Kelly, Kelley and Kelli.

JiCi wrote:

Ravingdork wrote:

Rock Hound, a gnoll bard/metal kineticist with a penchant for extravagant trend-defying garb and hair styles, and who loves to rock hardcore music from his resonant guitar. He hopes to bring his unique brand of metal rock music to all corners of Golarion and beyond.

You might want to look for another ancestry... if gnolls are gonna get removed... An awakened hyena, wolf or other canine could be your alternative ^^;

Kholo are not only not being removed, they’re being promoted up into Player Core 2!

Off-topic, and don't know how true it is... but a post on Names.org said this about the name Kholo.

"A user from South Africa says the name Kholo means "Kholofelo means having a faith or hope that something will happen or something will be fine"."

I mean Pathfinder Hobgoblins seem pretty similar to DnD Hobgoblins apart from some small details so not saying they will be dropped but I wouldn't be surprised and the same goes for Bugbears

Hobgoblins are in the Player Core 2 remaster.

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

Set wrote:

Years ago I had expressed a desire for elemental planes of metal and wood, and elementals, mephits and perhaps even genies (and other creatures, such as dragons, with the plant or metal 'types') of those sorts, and I'm psyched that it might finally be happening.

There is no 'might'... though Mephits are now Elemental Scamps.

Awesome!

And now I'm all curious about whether elemental 'wood' type dragons could exist as a part of a current paradigm, or be their own 'five man band' with cruel shrike-like Thorn Dragons, symbiotic-swarm-controlling Acacia Dragons, sinuous aquatic Kelp Dragons and ginormous, but ponderous, Redwood Dragons...

So many options!

Fungal Dragons scratch my itch too. Though Roll for Combat at least already has one of those, so that's nice.

bsmith709 wrote:

They give us at least a peak at the ToC during the Paizocon previews:

-Introduction
-Elemental Characters
..........Kineticist Class
..........Elemental Impulses
..........Elemental Allies
..........Elemental Backgrounds
..........Ardande Geniekin
..........Talos Geniekin
..........Elemental Instinct
..........Elemental Spell Changes
..........Elemental Archetypes
-Air
-Earth
-Fire
-Metal
-Water
-Wood
-Churn of Elements
-Appendix
-Glossary and Index

Years ago I had expressed a desire for elemental planes of metal and wood, and elementals, mephits and perhaps even genies (and other creatures, such as dragons, with the plant or metal 'types') of those sorts, and I'm psyched that it might finally be happening.

There is no 'might'... though Mephits are now Elemental Scamps.

The one captaining the boat looks like a sahuagin.

I think Locathah live in one of the nations.

scipion wrote:

I hate this crap, dont ever mix sci fi with fantasy or include any sci fi elemnts in fantasy worlds

Welcome to the forums! Digging up a thread from two years ago to bash the topic’s an interesting introduction; I hope you can share what you like with us all soon :)

Looks like they deleted it. So now it looks like my "yes" dug this thread up.

Mark Seifter wrote:

Let me know if you have any questions!

Is it / will it be possible to pick up individual ancestries? I am interested in the slime, but not so much in the others.

I was a backer... and the Slimes alone made it worth it. I can't wait to see the next ones.

Yes

I'm surprised to not see Battlezoo listed.

That's Roll for Combat.

If you get the Pathfinder Nexus version you can share your library with your friends and family if you subscribe for.. I think it is 5/mo

Yay, ORCs!

Gaulin wrote:

A second article is also around on Wargamer, spoils a few other things including elemental barbarian (I was so hoping to see it!) and metal order druids?! Cannot wait for this book.

Interestingly, the Wargamer article mentions the Iron Druid ARCHETYPE, not order...So, maybe a class archetype? Or maybe just a mistake, who knows.

Maybe Class Archetype because it can wear... hrm... heavy metal armor... And other major changes?

This... totally this.

I kinda agree?

Dwarves having slower speed is bioessentialism obviously

25ft speed please

No don't give me the they are always slow argument. If we want to go Tolkien I find his orcs are not represented well their either.

I love the new changes.

But if ancestries are no longer monolithic, then dwarves should cease being an ancestry that is stuck in the mud as a species.

It also makes certain concepts worse... Monks, swashbucklers, pirates...

But also... It's the only slowpoke ancestry.

I would like drow to exist as a separate ancestry for the reasons Keftiu states, so you could make drow with versatile heritages. Demonic drow are cool.

Hard to say if this post will be considered on or off-topic....

Honestly, when a High Seas book comes, Aquatic Elves should be a separate thing as well so you can have separate heritages for them rather than a single one added to the landlubbers... and also versatile... Maybe even including a Darklands Aquatic Elf heritage for Aquatic Drow.

For me, not quite "afraid" just a bit worried about the next couple years of Starfinder and the direction the AP's, modules and one shots might be going.

Not the right thread for this for that topic me thinks!!

My group I'm running this and I are looking forward to this AP, once they survive the first one that is, LOL

Tom

From what I understand... one shots aren't going anywhere... there won't be anymore.

I’m hearing that the Wyvaran dream is dead. At this point, I’m wondering if they aren’t canon anymore.

Keep the dream. I'm sure there will be a future Book of the Dead-style book about dragons... and they'll need ancestries.

Cthulhusquatch wrote:

It would be interesting if the surprise land turned out to be Holomog. I doubt it... probably Bhopan. But as that was announced, it makes it less of a surprise.

It can't be Holomog -- the Impossible Lands are a known specified region of a few specific nations, and Holomog is off the Inner Sea map on the other side of the Mwangi Expanse from the Impossible Lands.

Maybe they are subdividing one of those known nations in the region, or focusing on an island or enclave that just didn't show up on previous maps?

While I don't disagree... we won't know until the book starts going out. And many believe it is Bhopan .. which is currently as much of an Impossible Land as Holomog right now. So.. I dunno.

They never said they wouldn't expand regions. I can think of at least one nation that could possibly get added to the Broken Lands, as an example. Iobaria.

It would be interesting if the surprise land turned out to be Holomog. I doubt it... probably Bhopan. But as that was announced, it makes it less of a surprise.

Squiggit wrote:

Classes: Inquisitor (or some other aggressive magical divine thing), the medium (or something similar that fulfills the space of channeling different things for radically different benefits).

I want a martial that does crazy weird things with special attacks and stances too. Less a concrete class idea and more just a general want.

Ancestries: Wyvaran, Stheno.

Class options: I want them to exist in general, pretty please. Like g$*#$!n the Investigator is two years old and it's got one new feat (and it's a capstone).

Give me a psychic detective investigator. A TWF magus.... maybe a feat for sparkling targe magi who use the shield spell. Gimme a weird aberration barbarian. And a weird aberration summoner. Also literally any other arcane witch patron please.

I'm onboard with basically all of this! I do think the 2e Shaman might end up in the Medium design space you mention, but I'm very eager to see both in some form.

Part of me is holding out hope for Wyvarans to sneak into LOIL somewhere, but I think we would've heard about such a thing by now... we'll find out soon enough. If they aren't mentioned there, I feel comfortable thinking they've been removed from canon.

An occult/psychic Methodology is painfully overdue. I'd gladly welcome Aberration Sorcerers, especially once Synthesists make their return.

If they do a book on Dragons in the Book of the Dead style... that would probably be a great place for Wyvarans.

Zi Mishkal wrote:

I'd be curious to see what's actually new and different with their take on dwarves here. Giving each clan a "theme" is nice and makes for good storytelling, but I feel that it hardly expands what it means to be a dwarf. If anything, this feels more like dwarven society is bounded like a caste system. How will that play in Paizo's usually diverse and opportune-rich world?

It's mentioned in the Wargamer articles that non Dwarves can join a clan, and dwarves born in a clan can join another. So there are clans, but the opportunity to switch is always there.

I wonder what they do with the dagger. Probable that they keep the original dagger, but change the stone to fit the new clan? Or create a new scabbard that denote the new clan? Both would still keep some root of the origin of the dwarf, while still honoring the new clan. :O

Yeah... seems more like Clan-Guilds than Clan-Castes.

It would be nice to see a "universal" ancestry feat that anyone can take to pick up a Clan Dagger. (Or at least a way to access clan daggers if you are not a dwarf... even if it isn't as a feat)

Interesting.

I'm not sure that a city warrants an entire splat but hopefully there's some more info about the greater Five Kings Mountains region to warrant the page count.

I would've liked maybe a Cities-of-Golarion style book about multiple locations but attention to dwarves is never a bad thing.

Well.... a single bazaar got an entire splat previously and this does seem to include info on many clans, ancestry things, Dwarven equipment, Dwarven pantheon... etc...

Me like dwarves.

Radiation Druid, please :p

It would actually make good sense for Numeria and the Darklands!

I want one of those as well.

PossibleCabbage wrote:

Since metal is getting its own elemental plane, is it natural enough to get a Metal Druid? Maybe a Druidic Order that's considered possibly heretical by other Druids?

Like you can argue that making Steel (which you do by mixing carbon and iron at high temperatures) is no less natural than making Leather.

Metal Druid sounds paradoxical, largely because of the whole "Can't wear Metal Armor" anathema. So I'm not sure how that would function to begin with, given that something they would value and revere is something they can't even realistically wear, and probably shouldn't even be brandishing as weaponry to begin with (even if just because they're bad with weapons).

Maybe it will be some Uncommon Order to choose from, which alters the original anathema and puts in a new one, but it's hard to say if that's going to be put to print at all.

Metal Druid might be able to wear metal armor because it could be a class archetype as well as an order.

My kingdom for an Acid Blast.

The four elements… fire, bludgeoning, bludgeoning, and slashing. Super bummed to not see any cold damage options in here, and nothing for acid or sonic either.

I see cold in the water feat section. Just not the base blast.

Big class, even during the play test. No wonder there is only one class.

Mephits *would* be awesome. Also the new Planetouched. Radioactivity. Metal and Blight Druids.