Cil'dr's page

to be clear i don't think what the universe is, or what is in it, matters all that much.

Atheos, God of Skepticism wrote:

Or, say, Ringworld. o.o

I'm actually liking that idea more and more. It would make the "main" planet physically much larger, with vast unexplored frontiers, and give it a sort of special value above all other worlds.

Plus, ringworlds can be constructed around a star of any size (the goldilocks zone scales); and often out of the planets in a single solar system.

The big difference of a Ringworld is that "dawn" and "dusk" no longer exist. Objects orbiting the sun eclipse it on a regular day-night cycle as the ring rotates, so there is only "day" and "night." Also, the horizon curves up instead of down, meaning you could theoretically see forever, though some combination of fog and air interference causes the horizon to eventually turn into a blue-white sky. (You could also see farther than on Earth with a telescope, but not a ton farther)

Other than that, gravity would be the same. You could tunnel through the world and to the other side, but this would require a lot of work, and might let some air escape (so likely there are outsiders/gods willing to patch up these holes). There might be gravity on the outer side of the world, but it would be extremely light, and the temperature would be extremely cold.

Mountains would have "footprints"; a tall mountain might have caverns beneath it 5 miles deep, which would allow substitute "Underdarks" to occur beneath mountain ranges, though Drow living on the far side of the ring could also be an option.

To the North and South, the ring would end (it would still be as wide in that direction as our world), with great barrier mountains, covered in snow and with very low atmosphere, holding in the air.

That sounds good. Is anyone objecting to this?

I like the idea of Zodaxus' Empire sending colonists to such a world.

My brain is still stuck on Halo, though. I cannot picture a ringworld that isn't a technological construct, or that doesn't house some horrific threat to life in the galaxy. Then again, this...

Ringworlds and dyson spheres have a number of problems namely a lack of an electromagnetosphere, meaning radiation is intense. The rotation wouldn't be able to exert a force on the air and keep it tethered to the ground, since the air would have to be rotating too and there is no way to really to get the air rotating with the ring. In fact the speed required to keep the air down would tear apart any substance humanity can currently thing of.

I really don't want to take over a NPC god.

Well if stuff starts happening again, PM me, i'm going to stop monitoring the thread until then. :P

So, here is the situation; I've been having some computer issues for a bit but I didn't think much of them but now it looks like my comp is going kaput and, being the poor person I am, I can't easily afford a new one. Not to sure what to do at this point, I can post on my phone but it's glitchy and really not suited to long posts.

As much as it galls me I may have to suspend the games I'm in til I get a replacement comp but I don't know when that will be. I think my only real choice right now is to just put my games I GM into hibernation then once I am capable again of regular big posts send a PM to each player to see if each is still interested in picking the game up again.

This game is unfortunate in particular because it just started and hasn't finished even been truly established yet so I'm not sure what the survival rate will be when I try to pick it up again but there isn't much I can do about it currently.

If you could PM me with what your computer trouble is, I might be able to help, sometimes you just need to replace a specific part that can be really cheap(for instance you can get 8 GBs of ram for like 20 dollars not including shipping.). Though if it's a laptop that may be harder.

Would the archdevil have ever "found evil more intrinsically attractive than good?" that seems somewhat unlikely for a being of great, ancient and cosmic power who like Asmodeus probably once a god of goodness.

*shrug* I really don't get how the spell works. I'm intelligently lawful evil for instance seeing the ends justifying the means, so if I wasn't a god, I'd just stay the same alignment.

Cil'dr wrote:

back at the party

getting more than a little creeped out at lolth, I decide to go off and wander around the party for something interesting to watch.

"Looks like you feel about her the way I feel about old buckethead," He says referring to Lolth and Helm respectively

"don't even pretend you're disturbed by buckets?"

back at the party

getting more than a little creeped out at lolth, I decide to go off and wander around the party for something interesting to watch.

Not sure if a god can just target another god with a spell, especially at this range, with godly SR and will saves and whatnot. But demigods do sometimes change alignment when they come into the service of other gods, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

On the other hand, Cil'dr, you could just dispel the spell?

nah; one, I think it's more than just a spell; two, I am kind of alright in limiting it some what than pushing to contest; it's not much of a win but the period of contemplation would have really slowed things down. I more just opposed it on principle, but pulled back with some titular cede from Zax(gona be his nickname from me from now on).

I'm fine with this since an assured limit is better that the chance of no limit, but still find the condition creepy, and let it happen so long as the described conditions are met.

I contest the freedom zap, with a message from my core(not the me at the party) that we should not interfere until Moloch makes a choice(thus giving the option for zodaxus to back off), and that I do not mind the freedom zap in principle but find it unfair to subject someone to it when several gods are interested in the subject in question. Though, I do find "Freedom" Zap creepy.

I won't roll until Zodaxus confirms he's going through with it anyway, so that the chances aren't known to him.

freedom zap doesn't force an alignment change right? it just allows one?

An envelope appears before Moloch, It is sealed with Cil'dr's symbol, drifting slightly in the astral plane.

inside A message reads:
Cil'dr has heard of your application and is interested in what you may possibly offer him, enclosed you will also find a blank Resume that should filled out and then Sign your true name, He will get back to you immediately upon completion

The Resume has the following entries all to be filled with about a paragraph of writing, or at least so much space is given.
Past work experience:
Why do you wish to serve Cil'dr as opposed to anyone else who accepted your offer?
Place of birth:
Please explain how being betrayed by your master makes you feel:
Education:
If you could choose your position under Cil'dr, what would your preferred position be?
True Name:

I thought the point of this is that the material plane is ultimately inconsequential to the gods. In other words, it doesn't matter how much or little influence you have, since I think the greater story will primarily just be on a godly level.

Though I don't care so much if, other people are having trouble grasping onto the universe but want to, and thus want the setting to be smaller, I'd be fine with that. I'll just have a cold distant planet as my main base with then a few kingdoms in the main setting.

yeah, the universe doesn't really do anything to the gods, Ishalla doesn't even need followers to be the god of nature for instance. :/

I was... REALLY under the impression that this is all taking place in a world pre-electricity (and pre-industrial revolution), just like every major D&D/etc. setting. Otherwise, deities like Cil'dr and Mikraza would be taking on a massively different tone, and we wouldn't really have any nomadic tribes left to worship Ishalla or Babaki.

i've specifically referred to the majority of my followers being on a specific planet with a dying star...

Atheos invented Atheism!

suppose this is only possible in a universe with gods, for a god to invent atheism. :3

Atheos, God of Skepticism wrote:

Osoro—what about Lions, Leonals, Gryphons, or those good-aligned lion-taur thingies?

Oh, I meant like, new additions to the world, like Zodaxus' neon dragons.

I made corn

makes me think of Farcry blood dragon.

I'm prayed to by slaves and revolutionaries so I think liberation fits, also was considering dropping law for protection.

Cil'dr wrote:

"regardless, if someone asked you to improve their crop yields, couldn't you? and if they described a being capable of such as a god, would they be incorrect? Just food for thought, I don't think I've really had a chance to chat with you since you "ascended" since it was only such a short time ago."

Whoops

"Do I have the power to improve the growth of vegetation? Yes, as would any talented Druid or Hunter. But I don't believe I have the power to boost the growth of all plants on all worlds continuously. If a man prays to me, why should his crops grow faster than another man who spends that time actually working his fields with more care? If I started rewarding everyone who 'prayed' for better crops, pretty soon everyone would be spending less time and effort on actual farming techniques, and I'd need to spend more and more effort making up the difference. It's a dismal thought."

"Hmm, I think we're mostly on the same page. It's why when someone prayed for more food, I originally created Corn and Wheat and what not, but soon they wanted more, so after that I decided to teach them how to grow more of it on their own. Now thankfully I'm at the point where I don't need to directly intervene for most of my followers. My goal is self sufficiency in my followers, they feel the happiest with this outcome as well, from what I've seen. I don't know, maybe you're just young, you'll get used to people thinking you're a god."

if you look at your thing, i've already had it edited with nationalism for a while.

I look down for a moment, hesitantly at Zordaxus' fist. A reciprocating fist appears after a moment and completes the bump. "remember, Zodaxus, I don't normally have a corporeal form, and I don't think me just pushing back on your fist is what you were looking for. Anyway, most of it should go to you, when you mentioned flooding a world with liquid nitrogen, it made me realize an infinite weight sits at the back of that cup traveling at a sound wave, that's the core of a star, not a whole star just the core, the brightest point." As i say that last bit, i kind of step away from it slightly.

I decided to trade up from thieves and rogues to spies and assassins.

Yuugasa wrote:

Lolth is followed next by Helm of all people, though he doesn't seem to join in the festivities but just stands there at the outskirts looking intently around.

Any delight Scrapeknee felt at seeing on of his occasional lovers among the goddesses enter dimmed as his eyes fell on Helm coming in shortly after.

"And there goes half the party."

"maybe for you, I love seeing him awkwardly mingle, I've more a mind to say the earlier... specimen took half the party.". Whispering "I hate Spiders". I look back at my orb of darkness with the three infinite cups sticking out of it. "guess orange will have to do" I say as I plunge the last cup into the orb.

The orb immediately gives off the bright glow of a sun, thankfully the Orb is absorbing all normally harmful radiation, but it definitely is a nuclear reaction going on inside the orb. The light is mostly Orange but changes slightly and changes the direction occasionally giving it an interesting display.

"Zodaxus! this is for you" I yell as I toss it at him.

I'm kind of thinking of changing myself a bit to become sort of a more general god of civilization, especially since we got so many thief and assassin gods.

I'll make the demi-god of divine relations. he'll be miserable for all of existence.

Cil'dr wrote:

"Hey, I don't mind it when they can't defend themselves, but I can tell when alterations were made, divine alterations. Particularly when predators attack settlements beyond their fill."

Slowly shaking her head, Ishalla's tone changes to that of an instructor teaching a particularly stubborn student. "My own interference not only saved many Human lives that would have otherwise been lost, but turned those same lives to a greater purpose."

She idly pets the head of her snake as it rests in the crook of her elbow, slowing its agitated slithering.

"And they were hardly defenseless. The town's destruction was the natural culmination of two apex predators trying to inhabit the same area; it is impossible for both groups to exist in such close proximity. I will not condemn the actions of that lands' original inhabitants, who were only acting to protect their own resources."

Ishalla didn't make the animals attack, she saved what people would follow her before allowing the animals to attack. She actually prevented them from doing so before she was able to bring her attention to the town (& save what people she could, without directly affecting their free will). I'm at work now, closing up for the night. I'll respond further once I get home.

To be clear, Cil'dr has a bit of a reputation usually of disliking divine intervention in most forms

shifting to a more thinking posture, "I'm more inclined to think they should be able to choose their own purpose with out being subjected to your "natural" sense of life. Mortals aren't capable of understanding that, so the ones that joined up with you were probably driven insane. At least I don't consider dropping everything you've been working for sane."

also IDK, you basically told that tiger in your story to kill everyone who stayed

Annnd Atheos returns to ignoring Scrapeknee, knowing that he's responded to the same taunt before, and turns to address Cil'dr's comment.

"Believe in myself how?" he asks. "I possess consciousness, and greater magical skill than I once held. I do not believe, as I have heard some mortals claim, that I was 'carried up to heaven on a fiery chariot borne of four horned angels,' and I do not believe that anyone foolish enough to pray to me directly will receive better crop yields. But I inform this with observation, not dogma."

Responding now to Atheos I don't really talk, people just hear what I'm saying in their mind, even gods, since I don't actually have form, so i can easily talk to multiple people at once. "hmm, I suppose, it's never really so thematic either, but one of the things I enjoy most about mortals is how they make up stories. regardless, if someone asked you to improve their crop yields, couldn't you? and if they described a being capable of such as a god, would they be incorrect? Just food for thought, I don't think I've really had a chance to chat with you since you "ascended" since it was only such a short time ago."

"Hey, I don't mind it when they can't defend themselves, but I can tell when alterations were made, divine alterations. Particularly when predators attack settlements beyond their fill."

"oh yeah Atheos, been meaning to ask you something as well... do you not believe in yourself?"

Been brainstorming a bit since Tharros isn't a party person and wasn't invited anyway. The "Liked by" section in the spreadsheet is even empty. You're hurting poor Tharros' feelings guys. =(

you literally came into existence to ruin all the gods playthings... XD

Gently shooing a few fawning spirits out of her way, Ishalla meanders over to Scrapeknee and the others.

"Oh, hey Ishalla, been meaning to ask, can you stop encouraging animals to eat my pioneers. that'd be great."

shots fired

"hmm, orange... any colors go good with orange? i'm not really a colorful god ... but I think Zodaxus is..." I simply look around.

I added some, but the excel sheet appears to be an enigma to me, some of the formatting doesn't work for me, such as being unable to bold thing... (the bold button appears to do nothing)

edit: just copy pasted from elsewhere for the formatting.

edit: this document is going to be more accurate than my profile page, later might put a link there instead of domains and all that shiz.

on the document, there's no option for Cil'dr's if you die and made a deal with Cil'dr you go to Visgar and help other followers.

oh and in relationship, I like Zodaxus, we both favor revolution and dislike slavery.

"unfortunately no, when I left the people on one of my major planets were suffering from a low solar period, plants aren't growing as quickly, or as well, and there is famine... but this portion of me is here to get away from all that. I'm not even in direct communication with the rest of me right now." I pause looking back at the remaining infinite plastic cup. "pick a color, and please make it one most of the mortals can actually perceive."

Then comes in Babaki, who heads straight to the bar, "This evening is not going to be dull."

Teleporting near by, holding one of the infinite plastic cups and a dark orb about the size of a small cauldron, with 3 infinite plastic cups attached. noticing the hug between Babaki and Lathander. "I do believe you are correct".

Sure... and the entirety of Ancient Greece, with its large and famous pantheon, had a population of around 1-3 million. A lot of it depends on historical era and continent, but there are plenty of modern religions around today that you might learn about in school with only a few million followers.

Zodaxus seems to have been created post-space flight, so a single planet could have billions and there are multiple planets as the majority of my followers have been from a single planet.

Cil'dr wrote:

after teleporting away for a bit... "he apparently wanted it so he could fill a tub full of honey... I think I brought a weird one." A sudden realization seems to overtake me "wait... these can make liquid nitrogen?". you can see I'm thinking about something.

"If I give you one..." I say. "They can make any liquid one desires. However, it sounds like it might be better for me to simply give your friend a tub of honey."

Cil'dr is kinda famous as a god who doesn't really ever make or create things with his divinity, corn and what not being made when he was very young

"perhaps..." I teleport away again.

Later on in the party you might find Cil'dr has acquired 4 bottomless cups. He apparently is up to something as he also makes an orb of pure darkness form and then starts plugging the bottomless cups into the orbs one at a time after carefully considering their contents.

A mortal at the party meekly approaches me looking concerned "what... exactly, are you doing?"

to which I reply with "you know, I really don't know. I left most of my power at home."

okay, good, hong kong has a population of 7 million people.

think my plane would lie close to shadow and/or material plane.

after teleporting away for a bit... "he apparently wanted it so he could fill a tub full of honey... I think I brought a weird one." A sudden realization seems to overtake me "wait... these can make liquid nitrogen?". you can see I'm thinking about something.

I teleport immediately in front of Zodaxus. "hey, so Myzzy over there". I point at the shadow I brought along "wants to know if he can keep one of your infinite cups of liquid?". Upon receiving an answer, I immediately teleport back.

I created Cattle, Corn and Wheat.

I have destroyed several thousand species of spiders, diseases, insects, basically anything that spreads disease or scares sentient life arbitrarily.

I arrive with one of my shadows in tow. To any trying to observe me, I simply appear to be their own shadow projected from their point of view or possible as a featureless silhouette. Everyone can "feel" his expressions and his location, however their eyes give them no such data.

"okay, so, come back here everyday at noon so I can check up on you, if anything goes wrong you can contact me anytime as per usual, I've put some money in your bag in-case you want to buy anything or trade." taking one last look at everything I've equipped the shadow with, "Okay, have fun hun, stay here as long as you like"

The shadow, which appears to be made of pure darkness, except what it is wearing (which are what appear to be winter clothes a small backpack and a fannypack), immediately runs off and jumps in the pool still wearing everything.

"No! No! you'll get everything wet" I yell as I walk off after him.

I didn't know the party bird used to be mortal...

One other thing I should point out is that you can't spy on Adriel when he's in Avalon. This isn't his doing but the plane's doing! Avalon has existed before him and once was the home of ancient and now forgotten deities. The nine sisters ie nuns and the lady of the lake have maintained it until Adriel arrived. They still maintain it when he's not around. Also evil beings are not able to get near it and why would they when the lake is 100% holy water! And the mists are also holy! I'm trying to incorporate Arthurian Avalon in here so bear with me.

Also would anyone be opposed to the idea of Adriel uncovering a scheme where the temple of elemental evil and the cult of dragon are in cahoots with one another?

I thought we couldn't spy on each other at all when in our planes...

Maybe there's some sort of ritual involved to let them know it's never free? minor blood letting etc?

Cil'dr's call, of course

well, my god doesn't think he should directly interfere, he just organizes everything, I've had it so far that everything I use to help them came from another Cal'drian somewhere else who sacrificed it.

edit: think my spell will be Contact Shadow, it simply allows you to communicate with one of my shadows for duration of concentration.

mine... honestly would be create food/water...

the thing is though... i'm not the kind of god to give out spells...

”Tomorrow, after the Warden leaves, you may eat any Humans that do not leave with her.” Ishalla says to the tiger, mourning already evident in her voice.

Why, Mother?

”Because, my child, the Humans must make their decision. But first they must understand that a Mother’s Love is not easy.”

sounds like tomorrow I may have new worshipers.