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Game Master Mighty Glacier

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DAY 6


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Completely unrelated, keep your profile pages and statistics updated. Pahleg, what's your armor? Ushio, are you carrying the liar's mail breaker? And so on.

Also Elyna, I got your initiative bonus wrong (forgot the excitable trait apparently). It's fixed now (no effects for this fight).


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Ah, gotcha.

Also, while charging itself does not provoke, any movement during a charge can provoke as normal.

Breastplate I believe.


Er, so what part about charging does not provoke then? The attacking part? The scorpion has 10 feet reach, so Ushio did leave a threatened square during his charge.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Hmm, the attack of opportunity action chart does say that- the action itself doesn't provoke, but movement does. But moving on the charge is part of charging- I would consider the movement in the charge as being part of the action and not provoking, but I could be wrong.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Charging itself does not provoke. For example, if somebody charged Ulrich it would not provoke, because he has no reach. However if Ulrich had a longspear and he was charged, then it would provoke because they would have to leave a threatened square in order to close the gap.

Movement provokes as normal during a charge.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Ah, I stand corrected.


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You won't believe how long I played this game before I learned which part of charging actually provokes. In fact, I believe Pahleg was in that game as well.

Also, the attack v Kekkle didn't carry over into the errata post. To be clear: did it still occur?


So the movement during charge provokes, and since Ushio moved out of a threatened square (boss has reach), he did provoke an AoO. Looks like he really did die. Darn, I need to make another Errata post.

Kekkle Smoughbon wrote:
Also, the attack v Kekkle didn't carry over into the errata post. To be clear: did it still occur?

Yeah, it occurred. The errata addressed changes made, and nothing changed about that attack (that I know of, is there yet another mistake?)

@Pahleg: Remind me, where did you find that breastplate? I honestly cannot remember and it's driving me nuts thinking that I'm forgetting some important event.


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Nyet, just wanted to be super-clear in the face of all the uncertainties flying around.

Once everything has been thoroughly clarified I'll post my actions.


Once again I apologize for this confusion.


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Eh, it happens.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Looted it somewhere. Don't remember myself haha.


It's just that in my folder where I keep all item descriptions as .txt files I can't find a file for breastplate. Are you sure you're not wearing a hollow mercenary armor (which is a scale mail)?


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Pathfinder is a complex game, confusion is going to happen.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

I'll go back and see if I can find it. I thought I remembered something with a +6 bonus.


Sorry for the lack of updates during the weekend, had some overtime.

Any updates, Pahleg?


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Found it. Scale mail, not sure how I messed that up. Updating sheet now.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Are any of you fine folks interested in some Lovecraftian hijinks? I'm trying to get people together for a Trail of Cthulhu campaign on the boards, so I thought I would plug the recruitment thread in case any of you would consider playing. Trail is similar to Call of Cthulhu, except (I feel) that it's even more simple and better tailored to a mystery/investigative game. If you're curious, the recruitment thread is here.


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I tried playing horror/mystery investigations in the past but frankly I think I'm just too dumb to do well in them. Plus, I've never actually played CoC.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Well, the nice thing about the Trail rules is that you can't miss the important clues- if you have a relevant skill in a scene, as long as you say you're using it you'll get the clue you need to progress. Whereas in a lot of games like Call, you have to roll a successful check to get the info you need or else potentially miss the whole picture. But if it's not your cup of tea, that's cool too.


Congratulations on beating the first boss! The real game starts here...

If you have time, please fill this feedback form so the game can be improved!


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5
Feedback Form wrote:
The difficulty is too easy, I haven't even died yet and I'm already past the tutorial!

Hue.


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So obviously Ushio'll be getting a level when he pops back up. What else are we doing with these souls? We got enough for someone to attain 3rd level on top of giving a level to Ushio.

I also wouldn't mind picking up a shade orb.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Did we still want to go for that ring of greed? Better armor would be helpful to me, though that protection from evil buff was just as good. There's also the estus flask shard that Felisse is selling.

However, if we're going to level people up, maybe getting Ushio (assuming he's coming back) to level 2 and Elyna or Pahleg to level 3 would be good. Elyna doesn't have too much in the way of equipment, so another level may help her more. Though it's not a bad idea to keep powering up our healer.


In the interest of making bookkeeping easier:

Level-up to 3rd (Pahleg/Elyna?): 30s
Level-up to 2nd (Ushio?): 20s
Shade Orb: 15s
Ring of Greed: 47s
Estus Flask Shard: 35s
TOTAL: 147

Can't have it all, boys. Or can you?


female Gnome Kineticist 4 | HP (45(41)/45) | AC/Touch/Flat 18/14/15 | Fort/Ref/Will +9/+7/+2 | Init +5 | Percep +9

Ah yes I forgot about the Level limit to the number of burn i can accept per round.

Also I fixed my post with a spoiler.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

Shieldshieldshieldshieldshield!

I would like the shield, please. Even if it will tick off whatever covenant these dead guys were part of. Much as that claymore would also be cool, I'm not sure I want to invest the feat in it, so I'm fine with hawking it to the skeleton merchant for souls.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

What are the stats for the claymore? I know it's not a typical Pathfinder weapon.

Definitely Ushuo to level two if he's coming back. Not trying to be greedy (I always feel bad when I make this argument because I think it sounds selfish) but having Pahleg level 3 would be a huge healing boost. 2d6 on channelling and 2nd level spells.


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It says it's a Mwk bastard sword in the description.

We could gobble up the soul of the roamer, might get us to 145. I wouldn't mind a third level either, somewhere down the line.


It does say it's a masterwork bastard sword, but now I'm considering changing it to a new weapon with new stats. But nah, not worth it.

You have found a soul of a fallen roamer earlier, and that gave you 5 souls.


female Gnome Kineticist 4 | HP (45(41)/45) | AC/Touch/Flat 18/14/15 | Fort/Ref/Will +9/+7/+2 | Init +5 | Percep +9

I think a claymore is the closest thing to what a bastard sword can be if it is not a longsword. (in real life bastard sword and longsword are synonymous; a greatsword is a much larger weapon than that, so a bastard sword in DnD/PF would most likely mean something around the size of a claymore)

Sword-nerding aside, I don't think anyone in the current party would have use for it at the moment so I'm fine with selling it.


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So selling the katana, claymore, and using the soul will net us another 43 souls, putting us up to 154.

Ushio hasn't posted anything in a week with his alias, so I'm not sure if he'll be coming back around.

If he doesn't then we're only three souls short of getting Elyna up to third level as well.

Ulrich: is that shield good enough for your "better armor" for now or did you still want to spring for a breastplate or something?


female Gnome Kineticist 4 | HP (45(41)/45) | AC/Touch/Flat 18/14/15 | Fort/Ref/Will +9/+7/+2 | Init +5 | Percep +9

Another level up would be nice. Level 3 is where this class gets interesting.


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I'm sure we could scrape together some souls if that's the case. We'll have to wait on a verdict on Ushio, though.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Did we ever learn what that ring did?


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage
Kekkle Smoughbon wrote:

So selling the katana, claymore, and using the soul will net us another 43 souls, putting us up to 154.

Ushio hasn't posted anything in a week with his alias, so I'm not sure if he'll be coming back around.

If he doesn't then we're only three souls short of getting Elyna up to third level as well.

Ulrich: is that shield good enough for your "better armor" for now or did you still want to spring for a breastplate or something?

The shield will certainly hold me over for a while. That alone is 2 more points of AC over the buckler.


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Pahleg wrote:
Did we ever learn what that ring did?

The ring of greed? I don't think the merchant ever said. We could try haggling with him. Either he lowers the price or tells us what it does (or let's us find out or own).


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

We had an identification fail; if someone levels up, we might could try again.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

I have added the +1 shield to my inventory- which means there's a buckler up for grabs, should anyone desire it. And when we're spending our souls, let's not forget that Kekkle has a 4 soul/day tithe to the hivesheep.


Actually I'm considering removing the "hivesheep tithe" (good name by the way) and instead increasing the souls needed to level-up for sheeple. That way it won't be a penalty to the entire party, just the individual.

While we are at it, I think the game would benefit from giving everyone unlimited respawns like in DS. Dying would still be penalized (like the hit points loss, and maybe more?) and sheeple do not suffer these penalties, as usual.

Is this a good idea?


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage

I do think it's a good idea; a moderate penalty is good, but if we're undead and modeling the DS experience, I think making death not permanent and being able to keep your levels is a good thing.

Have any of you tried the Darks Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin version? I'm playing through it since I needed something on PS4 besides Bloodborne and I have somewhat mixed feelings.


I own SoTFS and it's okay. All DLC stuff preinstalled was a sweet bonus: I used Artorias's greatsword (Majestic Greatsword from Iron King DLC) on my first playthrough! *spin spin* What's not to like?


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Perhaps a more bloodstain-style way. When an individual dies they drop a chunk of the party's souls and only that individual can recover them.


Good idea, but I'm afraid it might mess with WBL if you fail to recover them, or might encourage "grinding" to make up for the loss. Neither sounds fun.


Male Human Fighter 4, AC 20, Touch 10 (12), FF 19; HP 21/41(47), Fort +8 Ref +1, Will 0; Initiative 0; Perception -2, Bravery +1 (+1 saves vs. fear); Hellfire Private (Order of the Bonfire) 3 Con damage
GM MG wrote:
I own SoTFS and it's okay. All DLC stuff preinstalled was a sweet bonus: I used Artorias's greatsword (Majestic Greatsword from Iron King DLC) on my first playthrough! *spin spin* What's not to like?

I just felt like some of the new enemy placement in areas from the original game amounted to just adding another clown car full of enemies to each area, which rubbed me the wrong way a little.


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I liked SotFS and got to play DS III for a bit at PAX.

Death in DS is a little hard to emulate in PnP, and while I have my own method of how I'd go about it, I don't think it would mesh well with what the GM has already established.

You could do a Demon Souls-esque mechanic. Everytime a character dies they take a penalty (hp damage, ability score, etc.) that is removed when they kill a boss or meet some other criteria.


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17 is too low for the sword! Pahleg, you have diplomacy, right? You should try and haggle it up.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

I'm not sure if things are just priced that way in this game.

GM, is haggling going to be a thing or do shopkeepers just give a fixed amount?


17 is the norm for a masterwork bastard sword: 335gp translates to 34 souls, divided by two is 17. When buying or selling basic items like weapons and armor, haggling is usually out of question. Exceptions can be made primarily for magical or rare items.

This is not a video game so sure, you can try haggling. Just not in this kind of situation, really. Of course, different merchants have different kind of interests: maybe a blacksmith would be more willing to haggle than the generalist-kind skeleton.


Male Aasimar Cleric 4 | AC 15, Touch 10, FF 15 | HP 35/35 | F +7, R +2, W +8 | Init +0 | Perc +5

Yeah I wouldn't worry about normal items like this. If we get something special I might try some convincing.

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