Some time ago I posted the following question.
link the 1st
Today I came across the following.
In short, the relevance of the 1st link to the 2nd, for the purpose of my original question (1st link), is that the encumbrance by armor is deemed adequate unless you have a lot of gear. Fleet pretty explicitly makes knowing what kind of a load you are carrying very important; thus requiring the use of encumbrance by weight (not needing to use encumbrance by weight, renders my question moot).
Fleet offers an option where Armor Training appears to make one eligible for the benefit (since the fighter treats his armor like light armor, normal movement, for purposes of encumbrance by armor) but would otherwise not qualify for (he is not wearing light armor).
So...
How is Armor Training affected by Encumbrance by Weight?
Does Armor Training make wearing Medium(3rd) and Heavy(7th) armor count as wearing light armor (for purposes of feats like Fleet)?
Specifically, is there some errata or ruling, that I am unaware of/missed that answers these questions? Or, am I left with my own interpretation of the rules?
Armor training doesn't make wearing medium or heavy as wear light armor. All it allows you do is at move at your normal speed. So you can't use Fleet in medium or heavy armor with or with out armor training by RAW but you can always house rule it.
From the PRD: "In addition, a fighter can also move at his normal speed while wearing medium armor. At 7th level, a fighter can move at his normal speed while wearing heavy armor."
No mention of considering heavy armor to be light armor. The effect is the same though.
Thank you for the well argued response. Any thoughts on Armor Training and Encumbrance by Weight (Additional Rules - Carrying Capacity)?
Thank you and well said.
This is a serious hinderance on Armor Training, as it is very easy to negate the benefits of Armor Training(with encumbrance by weight).
I had hoped, again, that a designer might comment. Providing a insight into what the intent of Armor Training was (the spirit of the rule, if you will). In part to make sure my fix, was in keeping with that intent, and in part to determine if the interesting new idea regarding that intent might be more accurate.
Saying "a Fighter with Armor Training treats his medium and heavy armor as light armor" is so much cleaner a statement. It also opens up Feats like Fleet for fighters in all armors, adding mileage to, IMO, an otherwise never used feat.
Now I will be altering not only Armor Proficiency (see 1st link); I will also have to alter Armor Training. Adding "Fighters with Armor Training treat their medium(3rd) and heavy(7th) armor as light armor."
Completely unrelated,
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