I've made a number of characters with the statue spell who would cast it as a long-term buff and when it wasn't their turn they would turn into a statue as a free action in order to gain the benefit of 10 hardness (which wreaks havoc against energy damage, among other things)--kind of like the opposite the twins from Matrix Reloaded (whereas they would become insubstantial, I would become extremely dense and hard to hurt).
My question is this: What exactly are your stats when you are a statue? What's your AC? Can you still make Reflex saves? What if someone cast shatter on you? Do you count as an object?
In short, how does this spell effect interact with a myriad of other game mechanics? The spell is extremely vague on the matter.
Personally, I like to think that you get the hardness with few to no drawbacks. It is a 7th-level spell after all. However, I wanted to know what other people thought, and to find out if there was a clear answer that I had missed somewhere.
First, its hardness 8, not 10.
Your strength would be unchanged, but as you can't move, you can't use it anyway. And since you can't move, your dexterity should be treated as a 0 (or possibly a -). Constitution and your mental stats would be totally unaffected.
Yes you can still make reflex saves. But as your Dexterity is now a 0 (so a -5 modifier), you have less chance to succeed. If a paralyzed character can make a reflex saye, then so can a statued character.
You may be be a statue, but you are not an object. Objects have no mental scores at all. Since you retain those, you are not an object. Shatter won't affect you.
Your dexterity doesn't become 0. If it did, you would be unconscious. Of that much I'm sure.
8. 10. Simple slip up.
What if someone animates you while a statue?
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It looks to me like it would take a standard action to turn back into flesh. It says its only a free action to turn into a statue, so I think the other would be as directing an active spell.
Your dexterity doesn't become 0. If it did, you would be unconscious.
Only in 3.5. Pathfinder removed that. (At least for dexterity. 0 constitution still kills you, and 0 in a mental score still makes you fall unconscious. See the descriptions of the ability scores in the front of the core rulebook.
And there are several conditions that give you a 0 in a score, but you don't fall unconscious. Like paralyed.
Wow. There are far fewer ways to get a 0 ability score than I had imagined... Forgot about that too, Jeraa. :P
Still, the spell doesn't say anything about making you paralyzed. That would make you susceptible to a coup de grace--a strange thing for a supposedly beneficial 7th-level spell buff to do.
Wow. There are far fewer ways to get a 0 ability score than I had imagined... Forgot about that too, Jeraa. :P
Still, the spell doesn't say anything about making you paralyzed. That would make you susceptible to a coup de grace--a strange thing for a supposedly beneficial 7th-level spell buff to do.
No, you don't become paralyzed. I only used that as an example to show you still stay conscious with a Dexterity of 0. But in statue form you can't move at all. That would mean a Dexterity of 0 (but not the paralyzed condition)
(Edited my previous post to remove the part about ability damage. Didn't have anything to do with the thread.)
Your dexterity doesn't become 0. If it did, you would be unconscious.Only in 3.5. Pathfinder removed that.
In 3.5, a dexterity of 0 made you paralyzed (strength of 0 made you helpless, any mental score of 0 made you unconscious, and constitution of 0 made you dead).
Those differences among the ability scores are one of the things I think 3.5 did right compared to Pathfinder; it makes more sense that you're paralyzed than unconscious if you have taken so much dexterity damage that you have no agility left.
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As to the topic at hand: Statue is an odd spell. I think most groups/DMs will have their own way of handling it, since the description is fairly vague. For instance, what does "significant damage" mean?
coup de grace... can you crit inanimate objects?
Yar!
Dexterity 0 does not make unconscious. Each ability gives a specific condition upon becoming 0, as stated in the descriptions of each ability at the beginning of the book, also found HERE.
A character with a Dexterity score of 0 is incapable of moving and is effectively immobile (but not unconscious).
etc.
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coup de grace... can you crit inanimate objects?
No. Coup de grace only applies against creatures, not objects. Besides, objects are immune to critical hits (An so are immune to coup de grace attempts).
Immunities: Objects are immune to nonlethal damage and to critical hits. Even animated objects, which are otherwise considered creatures, have these immunities.
Wow. This is a tricky subject with a lot of rules pit traps. Watch where you step.
Coming late 2012. Pathfinder Companion: Book of Statue.
Coming late 2012. Pathfinder Companion: Book of Statue.
I wouldn't buy that.