pre-gen Seelah skill proficiency


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


I may be missing something. But as I read the L1 Seelah pre-gen, I see 9 trained skills, as expected. I see the same number, 9, in the L3 pre-gen. Shouldn't Seelah have received a skill increase at L3? If my reading is correct, the problem persists in the L5 pre-gen where there are only 11 proficiencies, one gained as Skilled Human and another gained as a skill increase at L5.


That sounds right. By far not the only error on the pre-gens.


1st-level Seelah has the following trained skills:
Athletics +6, Crafting +3, Diplomacy +6, Intimidation +6, Absolom Lore +3, Religion +3, Society +3, Stealth +4, Thievery +4
3rd-level Seelah has:
Athletics +8, Crafting +5, Diplomacy +8, Intimidation +8, Absolom Lore +5, Religion +5, Society +5, Stealth +6, Thievery +6
5th-level Seelah has:
Athletics +11, Crafting +7, Diplomacy +11, Absolom Lore +7, Religion +8, Society +7, Stealth +8. Furthermore, Intimidation +13 and Thievery +6 moved up to expert. (She also boosted her Strength, Constitution, Wisdom, and Charisma.)

Yes, x x 342 spotted a real mistake.

At 1st level, Seelah trained in Religion and 2 other skills as a champion, also in Intimidation due to Iomedae's divine skill, Thievery and Absolom Lore from Street Urchin background, 1 more skill from Skilled Human heritage, and 2 more skills from Natural Skill human ancestry feat. Her Intelligence modifier is +0, so she has no additional training from Intelligence. Okay, 9 trained skills.

The skill increase at 3rd level should have given another trained skill or boosted a trained skill to expert. Nothing changed except for the proficiency increase from level. I recommend giving 3rd-level Seelah expert proficiency in Athletics to correct the oversight.

The skill increase at 5th level should have given another trained skill or boosted a trained skill to expert. And Skilled Human would have boosted a particular trained skill to expert. The skill increase is appears to have made Intimidation expert. Thievery also became expert, an unusual choice for a champion of Iomedae, but Seelah could have chosen Thievery as her Skilled Human skill, and used the redundant training from Street Urchin to train another skill. The 5th level changes were applied accurately, except for the error carried over from 3rd level.


Yeah the pregens have errors like this sometimes. Sometimes they get fixed, and sometimes they don't. I'm not really sure who at Paizo "owns" the pregens so it seems hard to flag them to get fixed.

This is a frustrating one because skills get used a lot, but it's not the worst I've seen. Korakai (the Oracle pregen) has the class mechanics themselves wrong both in terms of having Cursebound focus spells (which aren't a thing anymore) and also having an incorrect number of spells known. At least it did last I checked, which was before the last round of errata.

Liberty's Edge

I guess the pregens fall under the purview of PFS.

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