Shoving with a maul with a crushing rune


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A maul has the shove trait. If equipped with a crushing rune, does a critical shove impose clumsy 1 and enfeebled 1? Or is that limited to only strikes?

The crushing rune states that it imposes the conditions when you “critically hit a target.” A shove has the attack trait, so is a critical shove a “hit” that inflicts the conditions?

Thanks!


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No. Critical Hits are exclusive to Strikes. Critical Successes of other forms are not critical hits (pg. 275 of the Player Core).


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Critical Fumble wrote:

A maul has the shove trait. If equipped with a crushing rune, does a critical shove impose clumsy 1 and enfeebled 1? Or is that limited to only strikes?

The crushing rune states that it imposes the conditions when you “critically hit a target.” A shove has the attack trait, so is a critical shove a “hit” that inflicts the conditions?

Thanks!

The Remastered versions of property traits changes language from "attack" to "Strike." However, crushing rune hasn't been remastered yet. The Remastered rules would certainly dictate my ruling that a crushing rune wouldn't apply to the Shove action, and only on a Strike action.


Makes sense, thank you. And adding those conditions would be crazy with a centaur’s Practiced Brawn feat! (And the auto-crit)

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