Hackmaster 4e Trails and Errors.


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Grand Lodge

Looking to instead of a DnD 2e Campaign, a Hackmaster 4e campaign.

This is the Fourth Edition of the game.

Rolls to start are 8+1d10 for your seven stats.

I will say I have never DM'd a straight RAW Hackmaster game, but I would love to get one up and going.

Love the System, Love the humor and the danger. Yes, you may die, so I often say have a few backup characters ready to go.

If I get 5 to 7 people interested, I will move forward. If not, I'll go back to My Idea for a DnD 2e campaign.


Interested!


Wow. Interested. Huge fan of KotDT.
Will need to check my bandwidth, but will be watching this progress, nonetheless.

Grand Lodge

I will leave this up for three weeks. If I don't get any more, I'll go forward switch my Original idea.


Ok, though three weeks is a looooong time :)
I feel like usually the peak in interest happens within the first couple of days? Heck, maybe a week, tops.

Grand Lodge

True

Sovereign Court

*raises a cautious hand to indicate interest*

Liberty's Edge

OK..I have always wanted to give Hackmaster a try!! Count me in!


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Bam! We almost have a full group ;)

Been perusing the rules. There is a LOT of interesting stuff there. Including Active Defenses and a crazy interesting Initiative system.

Grand Lodge

4e not 5e

Sovereign Court

Str: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15
Dex: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9
Con: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14
Int: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13
Wis: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14
Cha: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17
Look: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17

...Okay, with that spread, I guess I am looking at a battle cleric?

Grand Lodge

Percentiles next to each stat

Liberty's Edge

OK, here is my first attempt!!!

Str: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15 1d100 ⇒ 14
Dex: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15 1d100 ⇒ 50
Con: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10 1d100 ⇒ 21
Int: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (10) + 8 = 18 1d100 ⇒ 6
Wis: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17 1d100 ⇒ 70
Cha: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 1d100 ⇒ 72
Look: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14 1d100 ⇒ 76

Not too bad for a change lol


I am going to take a look at hackmaster. Assuming we roll in order.

Str: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13 %: 1d100 ⇒ 15
Dex: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 %: 1d100 ⇒ 89
Con: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15 %: 1d100 ⇒ 47
Int: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 %: 1d100 ⇒ 30
Wis: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10 %: 1d100 ⇒ 44
Cha: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (10) + 8 = 18 %: 1d100 ⇒ 99
Com: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9 %: 1d100 ⇒ 74

Grand Lodge

Hackmaster 4e

Grand Lodge

Races Human, Dwarves, Evles (High, Gray, Wood,Curgach,Dark) Gnome, GNomling, Gnome Titan, Halfling (Stout,Tallfellow,Hairfoot, Thug) Half-Elf, Half-Orc, Half-Ogre, and the Pixie Fairy


If everyone is rolling, I might roll as well then.

Str 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17 - 1d100 ⇒ 66
Dex 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14 - 1d100 ⇒ 28
Con 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12 - 1d100 ⇒ 93
Int 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10 - 1d100 ⇒ 18
Wis 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15 - 1d100 ⇒ 8
Cha 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (9) + 8 = 17 - 1d100 ⇒ 72
Com 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14 - 1d100 ⇒ 38

Hmmmm, I am feeling... Maybe a Dwarf Fighter or a Human Paladin?

EDIT: Adding starting Honor = 20 (+7BP)

Grand Lodge

Classing in the Players handbook are

Warrior: Barbarian, Berserker,Figher, Dark Knight, Knight Errant, Paladin, Cavalier, Ranger,Monk

Cleric: Druid, Cleric

Magic-User: Battle Mage, Magic-User,Specialist, Blood mage(I believe its in there)

Thief:Assassin, Thief, Bard

Grand Lodge

Also, do you want Random Quirks and Flaws or can you cherry-pick them? Cherry pick, you get half the BP, and you have to have two minor and 1 major

pr, you can roll a 3+1d6. Penetration does not count on this roll.


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I went into this with the thought of 1 of 3 character options. I am always trying to recreate my very first character ever who was an Evoker and adventured in the FR. Another idea was one of the most fun character's I ever played a cleric/illusionist. And the third idea was a fighter mage thief. I always had one of those in the party whenever I played a SSI AD&D game.

Based on what I rolled the cleric/illusionist is out.

After reading the PHB a pixie fairy sounds interesting as well.

Are we using the methods from the PHB where we can change stats?

Str: 13/15
Dex: 16/89
Con: 15/47
Int: 16/30
Wis: 10/44
Cha: 18/99
Com: 9/74

Dark Archive

Str: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 64
Dex: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 47
Con: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 43
Int: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 63
Wis: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 74
Cha: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 91
Com: 1d10 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 Percentage: 1d100 ⇒ 41

2 numbers above 5. Awesome. So I am looking at an attractive archer.

I will try and build something in the next day or two.

Liberty's Edge

well with an 18 INT, I think some sort of wizard is in the cards....will work on it over the next day or so


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@Critzible - would we start at level 1?

Grand Lodge

Albion, The Eye wrote:
@Critzible - would we start at level 1?

Y3wn there is a coupon you can take to get you bonus xp. You only get 1 coupon per session and once used its done.

This coupon gives you 3000 xp but you have ro randomly roll for a Major Quirk or Flaw.


Critzible wrote:
Albion, The Eye wrote:
@Critzible - would we start at level 1?

Y3wn there is a coupon you can take to get you bonus xp. You only get 1 coupon per session and once used its done.

This coupon gives you 3000 xp but you have ro randomly roll for a Major Quirk or Flaw.

Eeeeeesh, that is a very tough choice - I took a look at the Quirks and Flaws, and damn... It is cherry picking for me (and maybe not even that). Some/most of them are just too damn harsh! :D


Age: 15 + 1d4 + 1d6 ⇒ 15 + (3) + (1) = 19
Handedness: 1d100 ⇒ 39 = Right handed
Height: 60 + 2d10 ⇒ 60 + (10, 2) = 72
Weight: 140 + 6d10 ⇒ 140 + (4, 8, 3, 3, 7, 7) = 172
Social Class: 1d100 ⇒ 45 = Middle Middle
Circumstances of Birth: 1d100 ⇒ 10 = Legitimate
Status of Parents (Mother): 1d100 ⇒ 34 = Living
Status of Parents (Father): 1d100 ⇒ 49 = Living
Quality of Parent (Mother): 1d100 ⇒ 20 = Loving Parent (+5BP)
Quality of Parent (Father): 1d100 ⇒ 8 = Loving Parent (+5BP)
Family Heritage: 1d100 ⇒ 92 = Great Honor (+5 Honor)
Number of siblings: 1d100 ⇒ 11 = None

Will roll starting gold and consider if I want to reroll any Background, after spending BPS on Skills, Talents and Proficiencies.


Ok, I think I have my initial BPs spent - wow, there is a LOT of stuff :O

BPs Spent:

Culture (Race Specific) 1 Wisdom
Customs and Etiquette (Culture Specific) 1 Wisdom
Heraldry 1 Int
Local History 1 (Cha+Wis)/2
World History 1 Wisdom
Basic Leadership 3 (Cha+Wis)/2
Military: Leadership 4 (Int+Wis+Cha)/3
Religion, general 1 Wisdom
Armor Maintenance 1 (Int+Dex)/2
Shaving/Grooming 1 Int
Weapon Maintenance 1 Dex
Attitude Adjustment 1 (Str+Cha)/2
Brawler 2 (Str+Dex)/2
Singing 1 Cha
Endurance 4 (Wis+Con(/2
Healing 2 Wis
Jumping 1 Str
Riding 1 (Dex+Wis)/2
Tracking 2 Wis
Diplomacy 2 Cha
Blind fighting 10

Which means I have 5BP left.
Chose no Quirks or Flaws. Still mulling it over.

Grand Lodge

trawets71 wrote:

I went into this with the thought of 1 of 3 character options. I am always trying to recreate my very first character ever who was an Evoker and adventured in the FR. Another idea was one of the most fun character's I ever played a cleric/illusionist. And the third idea was a fighter mage thief. I always had one of those in the party whenever I played a SSI AD&D game.

Based on what I rolled the cleric/illusionist is out.

After reading the PHB a pixie fairy sounds interesting as well.

Are we using the methods from the PHB where we can change stats?

Str: 13/15
Dex: 16/89
Con: 15/47
Int: 16/30
Wis: 10/44
Cha: 18/99
Com: 9/74

Yes, that would work

Grand Lodge

Albion, The Eye wrote:
Critzible wrote:
Albion, The Eye wrote:
@Critzible - would we start at level 1?

Y3wn there is a coupon you can take to get you bonus xp. You only get 1 coupon per session and once used its done.

This coupon gives you 3000 xp but you have ro randomly roll for a Major Quirk or Flaw.

Eeeeeesh, that is a very tough choice - I took a look at the Quirks and Flaws, and damn... It is cherry picking for me (and maybe not even that). Some/most of them are just too damn harsh! :D

Cherry picking or roll, Trust me you want that BP. Besides if you die and are brought back by Diminished Rite you will get more and get no BP

Grand Lodge

Albion, The Eye wrote:

Ok, I think I have my initial BPs spent - wow, there is a LOT of stuff :O

** spoiler omitted **

Which means I have 5BP left.
Chose no Quirks or Flaws. Still mulling it over.

When buying Skills you have to have the prerequisite skill at 51% before you can get the next skill.

Also Your Stats go up as you level. At least the precentiles. You can use BP on Money and/or Stats.

All parties will have Quirks and Flaws its your Choice to Cerry pick, 2 minor and 1 major or roll 3+1d6 for random.

Dark Archive

I have a bunch of 2e books, but not Hackmaster. Are the rules available for free online somewhere?

Grand Lodge

If you know where to find them...yes

Dark Archive

I don't, so I will have to drop out. Have a fun game.

Liberty's Edge

OK, borrowing Albion's setup

Age: 2 + 1d3 ⇒ 2 + (2) = 4
Handedness: 1d100 ⇒ 96
Height: 18 + 1d4 ⇒ 18 + (4) = 22
Weight: 24 + 1d6 ⇒ 24 + (1) = 25
Social Class: 1d100 ⇒ 36 MMC
Circumstances of Birth: 15 + 1d100 ⇒ 15 + (19) = 34 Legitimate
Status of Parents (Mother): 1d100 ⇒ 79 Living
Status of Parents (Father): 1d100 ⇒ 25 Living
Quality of Parent (Mother): 1d100 ⇒ 65 Ill-equipped
Quality of Parent (Father): 1d100 ⇒ 89 Indifferent
Family Heritage: 1d100 ⇒ 54 Honourable (+2)
Number of siblings: 1d100 ⇒ 32 1 sibling

Grand Lodge

Daniel Stewart wrote:

OK, borrowing Albion's setup

Age: 2 + 1d3
Handedness: 1d100
Height: 18+1d4
Weight: 24+1d6
Social Class: 1d100 MMC
Circumstances of Birth: 15+1d100 Legitimate
Status of Parents (Mother): 1d100 Living
Status of Parents (Father): 1d100 Living
Quality of Parent (Mother): 1d100 Ill-equipped
Quality of Parent (Father): 1d100 Indifferent
Family Heritage: 1d100 Honourable (+2)
Number of siblings: 1d100 1 sibling

Does your Sibling Like you are they a twin, what sex, did they live

Liberty's Edge

getting there...lol

Sibling Sex: 1d20 ⇒ 20 Sister
Living ?: 1d100 ⇒ 21 Yes
Sibling Riverly: 16 + 1d100 ⇒ 16 + (85) = 101 Extremely Devoted
Twin? :1d100 ⇒ 93 Close, but not quite!!
Order of Birth: 1d100 ⇒ 34 Second

Liberty's Edge

Thanks to my indifferent father, I now have to check the minor quirk table
(Lucky I get to choose one and not roll!!)

Minor Quirk: Superstition (The World is flat)

Liberty's Edge

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ok, so I am looking to build a pixie fairy fighter/magic user. Will start to get it all pulled together asap

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