| Orphania |
So if a character has a BAB of +1 or more, they can draw their weapon as a free action as part of a move action. Does that mean that with greater grapple, I can draw my weapon when I make a move action to maintain or pin a character in a grapple? Or do i need the quick draw feat? I've seen mixed comments on what a "regular move" counts as and am starting to think it's just a dm discretion thing.
| Pizza Lord |
To my reading, a regular move is using a move-action to actually move. I do not consider a 5-foot step to be a regular move, but moving 5 feet with a move action would. I do not consider a charge or run to be a 'regular move'. I do not consider moving while falling to be a regular move (I might allow it on a purposeful jumping up or down movement). I do not consider swimming or climbing or other actions to be a 'regular move' (unless they have that movement type), even if doing so uses a move action. I do not consider the movement made by dragging or carrying grappled creatures a regular move. I do not consider standing up from prone a 'regular movement', even if it takes a movement to do so.
Others may agree or disagree with some or all of my thoughts.
| I grok do u |
From the quick draw feat:
Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.
From rules footnote:
3 If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you can combine one of these actions with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would normally take you to draw one.
I would say that the "regular move" is actual movement based on the clarification from the feat. Additionally, one could also argue that the move action of greater grapple is not a regular move, as it is a special case provided by the feat.
Also note that having a weapon in hand (both hands not free) does impose a -4 penalty on the grapple check. Not RAW, but I would require the penalty even if the character had quick draw, and thus could unequivocally draw as a free action.
| Anonymous Visitor 542 424 |
From the quick draw feat:
Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.
From rules footnote:
3 If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you can combine one of these actions with a regular move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would normally take you to draw one.I would say that the "regular move" is actual movement based on the clarification from the feat. Additionally, one could also argue that the move action of greater grapple is not a regular move, as it is a special case provided by the feat.
Also note that having a weapon in hand (both hands not free) does impose a -4 penalty on the grapple check. Not RAW, but I would require the penalty even if the character had quick draw, and thus could unequivocally draw as a free action speed stars .
In the absence of this ability, you can draw a weapon as a move action or as a free action as part of movement if your base attack bonus is +1 or greater. You can draw a hidden weapon as a regular action without this feat