Charhide Druid

[Steven Bartalamay]

This hasn't come up yet, but I'm curious as to the interaction between the Charhide Goblin's natural tendancies for putting out fire on themselves (Flat DC 10, DC 5 with effective assistance) and the Fire Druid's Fire Lung (same thing).

They both have similar language.

Charhide:

Your flat check to remove persistent fire damage is DC 10 instead of DC 15, which is reduced to DC 5 if another creature uses a particularly appropriate action to help.

Fire Lung:

You need only a successful DC 10 flat check to recover from persistent fire damage, rather than DC 15 (and the DC when receiving particularly effective assistance is 5 instead of 10).

I'm going to presume that, since the languages are similar, that they do not stack (DC 5 to put themselves out, DC 0 with assistance) Is this correct?

[thenobledrake]

They are not "reduce the DC by 5" abilities, so there's no way for them to do anything other than exactly what they say they do and set the DC to 10 normally and 5 with appropriate assistance.

Things have to be presented as modifiers to be treated as modifiers, and that is what it would require to bring up any potential for them to both modify the same thing at the same time.

[Nelzy]

A more important question is what happens when a monster sets the DC to 20, and you set it to 10?

Example a Barbazu (which makes persistent bleed damage require a DC 20 check to recover from.)

bleeds a Naari(ifrit) with Cindersoul (The DC for you to recover from persistent acid, bleed, and poison damage is 10 instead of 15 (or 5 if you have particularly effective assistance).)

they are both try to override the normal 15, neither of them lower or increases the DC.