| Saens_Danse |
Since the change to monster warden in the last errata to become a +2 bonus either AC or Saves instead of +1 to both, Legendary Monster Hunter no longer interacts with Monster Warden.
This seems like an oversight and, as a level 16 feat, this seems deeply weak, so I'm thinking I'm going to give a PC who picks it the original effect of a +2 to both.
Can anyone think of any way this might break anything?
| NorrKnekten |
I dont think the feat is meant to mention Monster Warden at all after the Remaster. After all its +2 bonus to the next attack or save whatever comes first but its clear they just lifted the text from legacy.
I do think handing out +2 AC to the next attack AND +2 to your next save with a single action is a little nutty when we give it to the entire party. But as said it is a level 16 feat.
| Saens_Danse |
Yeah, it being a lift and shift makes sense, it just sounds kind of weak given that it's conditional, and the original version did give a +2 to all 3 of the attack, AC, and saves, and never seemed to break the game anywhere.
As an aside, the best Ranger edge for recall knowledge, Outwit, only benefits from the AC bonus for 1 level until 17, and can't choose to use the save bonus because they're forced to use it on the next attack or save given the new wording. This might be an interesting, albeit maybe unintended balancing lever to keep an Outwit ranger from basically spamming and maxing the bonus each round with a +4 circumstance bonus to recalls.
| NorrKnekten |
Yeah, it being a lift and shift makes sense, it just sounds kind of weak given that it's conditional, and the original version did give a +2 to all 3 of the attack, AC, and saves, and never seemed to break the game anywhere.
Perhaps, but I do feel like the legacy version was especially nutty with granting both Attack, AC and Save to the entire party. It being a higher base value but only the first of the two makes it also more relevant in the cases where your party already enjoyed circumstance bonuses like that gained from lesser cover.