Old_Man_Robot
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The full text of the drain ability reads
Drain (healing, positive) Drinking deep instead heals the drinker 3 Hit Points for each level you have. After the chalice is drained, it's left with only its slowly collecting dregs; the chalice can't be drained again, though it can still be sipped from. If 10 minutes pass without anyone drinking from the chalice, it refills itself and can be drained again. If the drinker has negative healing, it can still heal in this way, and the effect has the negative trait instead of healing and positive.
The bolded bit confirms that yes, it works fine.
| Darksol the Painbringer |
Can a undead Thaumaturge character drink and heal from their own Chalice?
At first I would think "yes" but then in the Drain it notes (healing, positive).
Thank you for any replies.
The Chalice specifically says that it converts to Negative if the creature has Negative Healing.
A better question would be if a skeleton can drink from a chalice or potion at all, since they lack the musculature and stomach/veins to do so, to which point I would argue that it can be the same as using an Oil of Unlife, which is just doused on yourself. Changing it from Sip/Drain to Drip/Drench shouldn't be very hard, since both take the same number of actions and have the same traits.
Now I imagine a skeleton with some really dry bones and has to constantly douse themselves with [insert liquid of choice here] to stay nice and fresh.
Old_Man_Robot
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| patrickbdunlap |
The full text of the drain ability reads
Quote:Drain (healing, positive) Drinking deep instead heals the drinker 3 Hit Points for each level you have. After the chalice is drained, it's left with only its slowly collecting dregs; the chalice can't be drained again, though it can still be sipped from. If 10 minutes pass without anyone drinking from the chalice, it refills itself and can be drained again. If the drinker has negative healing, it can still heal in this way, and the effect has the negative trait instead of healing and positive.The bolded bit confirms that yes, it works fine.
Yeah, I thought so but the "positive" tag through me off. Sometimes Pazio are kinda sloppy, contradictory with their wording.
Thank you.
| patrickbdunlap |
patrickbdunlap wrote:May I suggest reading through the entirety of the Drain ability?Can a undead Thaumaturge character drink and heal from their own Chalice?
At first I would think "yes" but then in the Drain it notes (healing, positive).
Thank you for any replies.
Oh, I read it and though, yeah, this would work, but then saw that "positive" tag. Like I noted before, Paizo is at times a bit sloppy with things like this. Why even put that tag there? It should be "positive/negative", if tagged at all.
| patrickbdunlap |
patrickbdunlap wrote:Can a undead Thaumaturge character drink and heal from their own Chalice?
At first I would think "yes" but then in the Drain it notes (healing, positive).
Thank you for any replies.
The Chalice specifically says that it converts to Negative if the creature has Negative Healing.
A better question would be if a skeleton can drink from a chalice or potion at all, since they lack the musculature and stomach/veins to do so, to which point I would argue that it can be the same as using an Oil of Unlife, which is just doused on yourself. Changing it from Sip/Drain to Drip/Drench shouldn't be very hard, since both take the same number of actions and have the same traits.
Now I imagine a skeleton with some really dry bones and has to constantly douse themselves with [insert liquid of choice here] to stay nice and fresh.
It's all magical, I figure the magical fluid just kinda disappears and is absorbed by whatever force is keeping the skeleton undead in the first place.
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Pirate Rob wrote:Oh, I read it and though, yeah, this would work, but then saw that "positive" tag. Like I noted before, Paizo is at times a bit sloppy with things like this. Why even put that tag there? It should be "positive/negative", if tagged at all.patrickbdunlap wrote:May I suggest reading through the entirety of the Drain ability?Can a undead Thaumaturge character drink and heal from their own Chalice?
At first I would think "yes" but then in the Drain it notes (healing, positive).
Thank you for any replies.
No, it shouldn't. Have you read the part where it says "the effect has the negative trait instead of healing and positive" [If the drinker has negative healing]? That's how it's done when traits are variable in this game. No, it's not sloppy or contradictory.
| Darksol the Painbringer |
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:It's all magical, I figure the magical fluid just kinda disappears and is absorbed by whatever force is keeping the skeleton undead in the first place.patrickbdunlap wrote:Can a undead Thaumaturge character drink and heal from their own Chalice?
At first I would think "yes" but then in the Drain it notes (healing, positive).
Thank you for any replies.
The Chalice specifically says that it converts to Negative if the creature has Negative Healing.
A better question would be if a skeleton can drink from a chalice or potion at all, since they lack the musculature and stomach/veins to do so, to which point I would argue that it can be the same as using an Oil of Unlife, which is just doused on yourself. Changing it from Sip/Drain to Drip/Drench shouldn't be very hard, since both take the same number of actions and have the same traits.
Now I imagine a skeleton with some really dry bones and has to constantly douse themselves with [insert liquid of choice here] to stay nice and fresh.
To be clear, I was being facetious about that part, pointing out how positive healing potions are consumed, whereas negative healing potions are applied, since the former are, well, potions, whereas the latter are oils.
One thing that is interesting is that, if you are Sickened, you could not utilize the Chalice (as you cannot normally consume things while Sickened), whereas you could still use the Oils (since those are not consumed, they are applied).