Pre-Master to Remaster Mandatory Changes


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Since:
1) Not everyone has purchased the remaster rule books.
2) Player core 1 and 2 are part of the core assumption.
and finally
3) The online reference for the rules is yet to be updates.

Is it possible for someone to describe the mandatory “Eratta” that are now mandatory for PFS play with the altered classes?

I understand that I am able to rebuild for a few more months, but I’m not sure if all of my characters remain legal to play until/unless they are rebuilt.

Dark Archive 4/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Turku

Everything (aside from actual class chassis) that was reprinted with the same name, is treated like an errata, and applies immediately. This includes feats and items, but also (as far as I'm aware) bloodlines, oracle mysteries, etc. Basically all character options. Would be next to impossible to list all of the changes.

Yes, technically those changes became mandatory on 12th this month, but as you said, player core 2 isn't up on the Archives of Nethys yet. It's probably best to keep using what you had as they are, until AoN is updated or until you get the book and can actually check the rules. After all, it would be problematic if a player shows up to a game, claims that their class abilities/feats now work differently because of the reprinted new version being different, but then doesn't have access to aon or the book to actually show the new wording of the ability.

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Demiplane Usually gets content up almost immediately (To read the books in totality or use them in the character builder, you need to buy them, but browsing rules is free), although the site is a tad laggy in my experience.

If a class feature/feat/spell in the remastered version of your class had text changed, you must use the new version of that feature/feat/spell. If a name was changed in the remaster, you still use the old version.

Dark Archive 4/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Turku

It's true that demiplane has the rules, but it's not an official rules source - strictly speaking, to use the core assumption material, you need to reference AoN if you don't own the the actual book/PDF.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that a GM should deny player from using demiplane as a rules reference while we wait for AoN to update: If a player shows up with PC2 content that's up on demiplane, I'd encourage the GM to accept that instead of arguing about whether or not the player can use PC2 stuff that's technically now mandatory. Instead, I'm saying that since demiplane isn't the official and accepted rules reference, a GM shouldn't force a player to use it to update their character to PC2 if the player hasn't done that yet.

We're currently in a sort of limbo where we should be using PC2 and it's the core assumption, but the rules aren't yet available on the official PRD (AoN) so I'd advocate for GMs to let players use what they currently have, and leave worrying about updating the characters to when the rules are officially available.

Scarab Sages 3/5 **** Venture-Captain, Wisconsin—Franklin

We've decided to run Prey for the Death this month to let a local con run new scenarios w/o stealing their thunder, let people get the intro to the new War of Immortals stuff b/c season 6 is part of that story, and to let folks figure out the new Core 2 stuff without feeling the need to rush changes.

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I can only hope tgat tge various GM’s I’m gonna play with will be as lenient as y’all suggest. Honestly, since this issue is gonna disproportionately affect PFS players, a conversion guide (official or fan made) would probably be super useful.

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/5 **

Pathbuilder 2e has also been updated. Also not an official source but its what a lot of people use to build their characters so I thought I'd point it out.

In general though its probably not a huge deal unless the GM is being very strict. Most of the changes are fairly minor and, for the big ones, most GMs will just allow you to use the old stuff for awhile (even if that isn't strictly legal)

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