Kineticist's Extract Element, Immunity and Resistances


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For Extract Element,

Archives of Nethys wrote:
Success The creature takes half damage, and you add some of its elemental matter to your kinetic aura. Your impulses bypass any immunity the creature has to their elemental trait or traits, and the target takes a –1 circumstance penalty to its saves and AC against your impulses. If the target normally has a resistance that would apply to damage from one of your impulses, ignore that resistance; if it normally would be immune to that damage type, it instead has resistance equal to its level to damage from the impulse. You can't target a creature with Extract Element if elemental matter you extracted from it is already in your kinetic aura. These effects last for 5 minutes or until your kinetic aura ends, whichever comes first.

Scenario: A single-gate fire kineticist, newly third level, runs into a fire elemental and uses Extract Element on it.

Assuming the elemental was successful on it's save, for 5 minutes:
1. The kineticist's "impulses bypass any immunity the creature has to their elemental trait or traits" (fire in this case).
2. The elemental takes a –1 circumstance penalty to its saves and AC against your impulses (perfectly clear, we can ignore this).
3. The Fire elemental "normally would be immune to that damage type, it instead has resistance equal to its level to damage from the impulse.

So, does the kineticist "bypass any immunity", does the elemental's immunity now give it resistance, or is there some other case where a creature has immunity to a trait but a different immunity/resistance to the damage?


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The elemental no longer has immunity. The elemental now has some resistance equal to its level instead of immunity.

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