What is a "high DC" of a creature's level?

[ZarKimbo]

Hi,

I thought to ask directly here in the community, too. In Dark Archive, knowing the high DC of a creature it is crucial to understand how some of the custom monsters are working because you need to determine "the high DC for a creature of the [SPOILER] level" in order to determine the DC for the ability.

However, that term has never been mentioned in the CRB and I could not find out anything online. So does anyone have an idea?

Thanks.

[Guntermench]

It's probably supposed to say "hard" or "very hard".

Adjusting Difficulty

[Unicore]

I had assumed it was referencing the Creature creation rules and the High save DC of the creature. But it looks like those would mostly come out the same.

[Mathmuse]

Extreme, high, moderate, and low DCs and modifiers is the terminology used in the Gamemastery Guide's Building Creatures rules. The tables usually give only modifiers, but Table 2–11: Spell DC and Spell Attack Bonus has DCs. That terminology is not used in gameplay.

I searched the Dark Archive for the phrase ""the high DC for a creature" and found it under Cryptid Adjustments. It was refering to building a creature, so it might be using the table in the Gamemastery Guide. On the other hand, the Archives of Nethys links that phrase to the Core Rulebook's Difficulty Classes tables.

[ZarKimbo]

Mathmuse wrote:

Extreme, high, moderate, and low DCs and modifiers is the terminology used in the Gamemastery Guide's Building Creatures rules. The tables usually give only modifiers, but Table 2–11: Spell DC and Spell Attack Bonus has DCs. That terminology is not used in gameplay.

I searched the Dark Archive for the phrase ""the high DC for a creature" and found it under Cryptid Adjustments. It was refering to building a creature, so it might be using the table in the Gamemastery Guide. On the other hand, the Archives of Nethys links that phrase to the Core Rulebook's Difficulty Classes tables.

Thanks for your reply! I didn't want to quote all of it because I did not want to spoiler the content but you are absolutely right, I am specifically looking at the Cryptid's Howl ability which says "The DC is the high DC for a creature of the rumored cryptid’s level."

So technically, the ability is not a spell but I think it makes most sense in this context to use Table 2–11: Spell DC and Spell Attack Bonus as you suggested.

Also, thanks to everyone else, amazing community and very helpful! :)

[Guntermench]

Unicore wrote:

I had assumed it was referencing the Creature creation rules and the High save DC of the creature. But it looks like those would mostly come out the same.

Ah, that makes more sense actually.