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I am not sure how to apply the +2 from this shield in some cases. "The wearer of this shield gains a +2 bonus on Reflex saves against effects that originate or burst from a point outside his own square, as though he had cover. It does not protect against spread effects."

So this would protect against a fireball, sure. But what about cones, those originate from outside the square. Walls can be placed in an occupied square, or can fall onto someone from an adjacent square but they don't burst or originate really.

Honestly, I could not find a definition for "spread effect" so am not sure what it "doesn't" protect against, I think it would be things based on Fog Cloud (Stinking Fog, Incendiary Fog...etc.)

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talmerian wrote:

I am not sure how to apply the +2 from this shield in some cases. "The wearer of this shield gains a +2 bonus on Reflex saves against effects that originate or burst from a point outside his own square, as though he had cover. It does not protect against spread effects."

So this would protect against a fireball, sure. But what about cones, those originate from outside the square. Walls can be placed in an occupied square, or can fall onto someone from an adjacent square but they don't burst or originate really.

Honestly, I could not find a definition for "spread effect" so am not sure what it "doesn't" protect against, I think it would be things based on Fog Cloud (Stinking Fog, Incendiary Fog...etc.)

Fireball is a spread. Same for Cone of cold. Essentially, it doesn't protect against stuff that can move around corners.

You need to check the description of the different attacks and p. 214 of the Core Rulebook. It explains what is a spread, burst, and emanation.


Diego Rossi wrote:
talmerian wrote:

I am not sure how to apply the +2 from this shield in some cases. "The wearer of this shield gains a +2 bonus on Reflex saves against effects that originate or burst from a point outside his own square, as though he had cover. It does not protect against spread effects."

So this would protect against a fireball, sure. But what about cones, those originate from outside the square. Walls can be placed in an occupied square, or can fall onto someone from an adjacent square but they don't burst or originate really.

Honestly, I could not find a definition for "spread effect" so am not sure what it "doesn't" protect against, I think it would be things based on Fog Cloud (Stinking Fog, Incendiary Fog...etc.)

Fireball is a spread. Same for Cone of cold. Essentially, it doesn't protect against stuff that can move around corners.

You need to check the description of the different attacks and p. 214 of the Core Rulebook. It explains what is a spread, burst, and emanation.

Cone of Cold wrote:

Range 60 ft.

Area cone-shaped burst

Cone of Cold actually is a burst. I would also assume that breath weapons (cones and lines) are not spreads, otherwise the shield would be useless for its namesake purpose.

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