question with a tactic boss in Sound of a Thousand Screams ***Alert Spoiler***


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I confuse with The Wriggling Man's stategic.

Before Combat The Wriggling Man casts mind blank every day, and activates his ring of invisibility as soon .......

Ok, this part I understand....

The Wriggling Man keeps in motion, flying around the room invisibly as a move action after each time he casts an attack spell on the PCs each round so that it’s difficult to track his position.

this is the part that i don't understand.
the invisibly from a Ring of invisibility is continuous or break when attacks?


Your question isn't an awful one, and in the end, it's going to be a judgement call by you, the DM, on what fits your play style, game, and players best. To help with that, here is what I know.

according to The official SRD, the ring is effectively a basic cast of the level two spell Invisibility, with a caster level of 3. Further review shows this to break on attacks (it's not greater invisibility), and has a duration of 3 minutes due to it's caster level.

What action type is it to reactive the ring? Unspecified. Many people deem this to mean that every 3 minutes, that you need to burn a Standard Action to reactivate it. (I think this is as close to RAW as you can get).

Opinion time
Narratively, I find this unappealing, and would call it a semi-permanent effect, as in, an action in the morning, and it just keeps working until you do something to stop or cancel it, such as an attack.

It's been a LONG time since I read through the AP, despite it being the next one I'm running, so I can't remember which encounter this is, and how many supporting members this presumably combat encounter will have. If it's a Solo fight, I'd almost definitely treat it as a swift action to reapply, or even a free action. THAT however, is based on my play style, and the power level I run my games at. If I don't give any tiny advantage to my NPC's, my players will walk through them without realizing they were supposed to be a challenge.

YMMV. Take a close look at the encounter, then at your players. What works best, in the only opinion that matters ahead of time. The DM's. It's not an easy decision, and after the fact you may wish you ruled differently, but it's still a decision you get/need to make. The answer may very well be "He burns a Standard Action every 3 minutes, and I'll roll 3d6 to see how long ago this was when I roll initiative, and then have him spend a Standard Action to pull the ring off and put it back on to reactivate it."

Good Luck to you, and your party!

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Thanks


Furansisuco wrote:

I confuse with The Wriggling Man's stategic.

Before Combat The Wriggling Man casts mind blank every day, and activates his ring of invisibility as soon .......

Ok, this part I understand....

The Wriggling Man keeps in motion, flying around the room invisibly as a move action after each time he casts an attack spell on the PCs each round so that it’s difficult to track his position.

this is the part that i don't understand.
the invisibly from a Ring of invisibility is continuous or break when attacks?

I'll be honest, I usually dump the "tactics" session of the stat block when I play and I go with what seems a good use of the character's abilities consistent with their temperament.

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That's an error in the tactics, looks like to me. And yeah, it's also part of the reason we dropped the whole Tactics section from stat blocks in 2nd edition and instead included those suggestions in a more narrative way in the encounter text. It helps to encourage GMs to adjust an NPC's strategies as works best for their table without implying that if they change what we print in an actual stat block they're "doing something wrong."

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Furansisuco wrote:


The Wriggling Man keeps in motion, flying around the room invisibly as a move action after each time he casts an attack spell on the PCs each round so that it’s difficult to track his position.

I presume the Tactics section meant to include he casts his 8th level "Quickened Greater Invisibility" so this tactic would work. Otherwise, he'd have to active the Ring as a standard action each time.


James Jacobs wrote:
That's an error in the tactics, looks like to me. And yeah, it's also part of the reason we dropped the whole Tactics section from stat blocks in 2nd edition and instead included those suggestions in a more narrative way in the encounter text. It helps to encourage GMs to adjust an NPC's strategies as works best for their table without implying that if they change what we print in an actual stat block they're "doing something wrong."

I don't know if you followed my team's merry adventures, but we did a mythic Kingmaker that went way, way, way, way off the rails. The final battle with mythic Wriggles turned into one of the epic fights of the campaign.

But thanks for the Wriggling Man. He was evocative and the players still remember him.

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