Find Flaws and Multiple Recall Knowledge Attempts


Thaumaturge Class


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I think Find Flaws should specifically say whether it can be attempted against the same type of creature more than once, especially if the first attempt is a failure. The rules for Recall Knowledge say that future attempts against the same subject are "fruitless" after a failure, which reads to me as all future attempts automatically fail. The "once per turn" frequency doesn't explictly countermand this rule. But can a thaumaturge try again to achieve the benefits specific to Find Flaws? Or if they automatically fail, does this mean a thaumaturge who critically fails can use it again next round to gain the ability to use Esoteric Antithesis as an action?

(For that matter, a general FAQ/errata addressing whether actions/activities that provide a benefit based on the result of a subordinate recall knowledge would be nice)


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Follow-up observation: Esoteric Antithesis is written to work on one creature, not one type of creature. So a thaumaturge fighting two babaus would have to recall knowledge to understand the weaknesses of babau #2 even if they know the weaknesses of babau #1. Do they simply get the result they achieved before? I would feel pretty silly telling a player that they know all the weaknesses of babau #1 but are totally befuddled by the identical-looking babau #2.

Adding something along the lines of "If you have previously used Find Flaws against the same type of creature [insert time limit here?], you automatically achieve the same degree of success as your previous Find Flaws" would solve the issue.

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